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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 11th Aug 17, 8:12 AM
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    moneyistooshorttomention
    Ooh ooh Macho Man incarnate eh...

    As for the thought of belting the hell out of the North Koreans being seen as the best of a lot of bad options = huh?

    Wonders why the "just leave them to sit and stew in their own juice and do nowt" option is deemed not to be an option on the table?

    Maybe I'm missing something - but I can't see why Fatman can't just be left to leap up and down and yell threats at us at intervals and be deemed to just be "punching in a paper bag he can't get out of".
    #MeToo

    Ain't neva gonna learn to be a good "woman"
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 11th Aug 17, 7:50 PM
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    I suppose now isn't quite the moment to suggest you curl up & enjoy a good zombie survival book? As the Haynes Zombie survival manual is both witty & intriguingly well informed on prepping matters.... Yes, a few pages can be skipped entirely, but there were a lot of bits of excellent sense between the humour & zombie nonsense.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 11th Aug 17, 8:42 PM
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    Never mind the zombies, I've just killed 15 of those giant orange slugs up on the allotment. Thirteen spaded and another two spotted on my way off the plot after spade was put away (those, I knifed).

    Tomorrow I shall try and find some more of the bu88ars and show them Cold Steel.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 11th Aug 17, 9:11 PM
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    Ah, the sound of the Grey Queen when Her Blood Is Up.

    Slashing, squishing & the occasional ecstatic squawk from a happy chicken.
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 12th Aug 17, 7:27 AM
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    I sometimes wonder about the sanity of you lot. I mean, I know I'm all right.
    But not sure about you lot
    • ancientofdays
    • By ancientofdays 12th Aug 17, 7:41 AM
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    I have just been watching a quite interesting series on Netfl*x called (I think) How the World Ends. Each segment so far seems to be from a different perspective but the common denominator is that each group of people are firmly convinced that the End Is Nigh, we are living in the Last Days, for various reasons, religious, mystical or possibly because of a fresh war. One segment was mostly about the Rapture, for which they prepared extensively and assembled in readiness and were quite miffed when it did not happen but seemed to rally and reset the date. It failed again I think. There was another lot who believed that the Earth was going to be hit by a giant planet called X. This bit also had some scientists pointing out that with modern methods of planet detection they probably would have spotted this ginormous thing.

    Most people had anti disaster shelters and even the Rapture people had all kinds of stores and preps but they seemed not to take them along on Rapture Day, so that was a little inconsistent. But their bug out preps were really quite extensive to the extent of fully prepped bug out vehicles and not just bags.
    The scary part for me was about a possible pandemic, which I consider quite likely at some point if we haven't all been blown to Kingdom Come by then.


    EDIT I forgot to tell you that one of the religious sects had worked out, using some mathematical formula, that the antichrist is Prince Charles, or, as they called him, Charles of Wales.
    Last edited by ancientofdays; 12-08-2017 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Spelling and leaving a bit out
    I was jumping to conclusions and one of them jumped back
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 12th Aug 17, 8:32 AM
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    No scenario of just getting overwhelmed by sheer numbers of people?

    NHS overwhelmed (errr...yep....well on the way)/roads jammed with traffic/struggles in some parts of the country to keep green space safe from development/unaffordable housing because of too much "demand" from all these people/Government giving those on the dole a totally inadequate amount to live on as they try to share a same-size-or-smaller "pot of money" between more and more people (whilst still being intent on low rates of tax on high earners and not chasing mega-companies hard enough for the tax they owe).

    Errrm...hang on a minute - all that is in the newspapers as happening right at this moment...

    Aka the lobster being slowly boiled alive in a pot of water on the stove scenario.
    #MeToo

    Ain't neva gonna learn to be a good "woman"
    • maryb
    • By maryb 12th Aug 17, 10:28 AM
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    My feeling is that we are not facing nuclear Armageddon in the immediate future but I would not be at all surprised if the US is the subject of a cyber attack in the near future. Hard to prove it's NK but effective at humiliating one of the great powers.

    If it affects banking, the knock on effects could be global so I am upping the cash float I keep in the house. Labour Day is the first Monday in September and of course we have August Bank Holiday last Monday in August. So a prime window for mischief making
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • ancientofdays
    • By ancientofdays 12th Aug 17, 10:55 AM
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    The entire series appears to be mostly USA oriented, though there are references to European figures, Nostrodamus for example and not forgetting Prince Charles in his new role as the antichrist. His mother WILL be pleased.
    I agree Mary b I find the sabre rattling or pen*s waggling a bit scary but that is what I think it is, a cyber attack is quite likely, given the recent small attacks, perhaps those were practice runs, who knows? I certainly don't. We always keep a bit of cash handy, especially around holiday times when the dispensers can be empty.
    Last edited by ancientofdays; 12-08-2017 at 11:44 AM.
    I was jumping to conclusions and one of them jumped back
    • Nargleblast
    • By Nargleblast 12th Aug 17, 9:42 PM
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    We can put a lot of the uncertainty down to Mercury going retrograde from now till early September - lots of opportunities for miscommunication and arguments. Rumour has it also that China could be kicking off against India some time soon. Ah it's a funny old world!
    Debt free date.....3 August 2015
    Now building up a Doomsday Cash Stash
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 12th Aug 17, 10:03 PM
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    Yes, this new format of test cricket is somewhat bewildering.

    I'm with the lobster school of thought & that I happen to have a startling wad of cash is entirely due to a Lack of planning & an imminent camping holiday. Yes, the bug out vehicle is *almost* a reality, here. Along with three days rations & all the radiator fluid we can dunk teabags into we can drink...

    If only I were kidding. I just hope the Trossachs can cope. The lads are forces of nature & frankly unlovely when hungry. Says I their mother gawd help us.

    Still, we could be trying something at sea. Counts blessings!

    Sanity? Why bother? Depressing, restrictive - much like my working wardrobe. I veil body, spirit & eccentricity in exchange for money. No rhinestones indicated & fortunately not dress code heel requirements. Well, they inferred quite enough from one pair that the code was hurriedly revised.
    Last edited by DigForVictory; 12-08-2017 at 10:15 PM.
    • ancientofdays
    • By ancientofdays 13th Aug 17, 7:10 AM
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    I have now watched the fnal episode. This one was about alien invasion, together with people who are absolutely convinced that they have spent some time as alien abductees, been probed by aliens, have terminated pregnancies of alien babies or convinced that there is a large number of human-alien hybrids concealed within the general population. Sadly, I felt this was a little far-fetched to the extent of rolling around giggling, not recommended with a cup of tea and also I dropped a stitch in my knitting.
    There were no bug out preps in this one, in an earlier one, a man had buried a lot of disused coaches underground to form the basis of a new society. There was a lack of information about how he managed this and I would have liked to know more about the logistics of moving from coach to coach. There was a huge variation in the time people felt that they would need to hide in their shelters of whatever description and one person advised that you needed to be further from the sea than I think possible in this country. Or it might have been further away from other people, again difficult in a small and densely populated country. I'm sure that I could find a remote place but equally sure that others would have had the same idea.
    I was jumping to conclusions and one of them jumped back
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 13th Aug 17, 8:42 AM
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    I foresee a lucrative career in storyteller criticism - good or bad enough to drop a stitch in the knitting adds a distinct extra urgency & credibility to the opinion!
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 14th Aug 17, 9:59 AM
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    Brilliant! Totally agree with DforV, ancient, you're on a roll there

    Also agree with maryb - I think cyberattack will be the new form of warfare for a lot of the time. And the ones that have already happened are probably the equivalent of NK learning how to shove a nuke on top of an ICBM In all seriousness, when you look at the chaos caused by the existing ones - hospitals, transport, public transport, banking, consumer spending, all stopped or severely curtailed at different times - it just makes sense that a rival country would choose this, and let the affected country pull itself to pieces, rather than military attack. They still get most of the economic and social control boost of warfare, without the accompanying problems.
    Retired August 2016
    • maryb
    • By maryb 14th Aug 17, 2:32 PM
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    I was in Bromley this morning and all the bank cash machines were down. Not just one bank, it was the whole Link system. And people couldn't access their accounts for payments even if they went to the counter Anyone else affected in other areas? It was up and running again by just after 10.00, so I joked to the cashier that it looked like it wasn't NK this time. She smiled but looked a bit worried
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Aug 17, 2:54 PM
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    I wonder how things are going today for anyone Completing on selling and/or buying a house today then....

    Is vague on "details dealt with by solicitors" but part of it is checking the money is actually there in the bank when it's due to be (be it by mortgage or whatever....) I guess....
    #MeToo

    Ain't neva gonna learn to be a good "woman"
    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 14th Aug 17, 3:46 PM
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    I was in Bromley this morning and all the bank cash machines were down. Not just one bank, it was the whole Link system. And people couldn't access their accounts for payments even if they went to the counter Anyone else affected in other areas? It was up and running again by just after 10.00, so I joked to the cashier that it looked like it wasn't NK this time. She smiled but looked a bit worried
    Originally posted by maryb
    We had no problem at an ATM in Bexleyheath, but that was later in the morning, about 11.45 I think.
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 14th Aug 17, 4:20 PM
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    Oi you lot, I go away for 11 days and come back to find you're planning Armageddon without me????? SWIZZ!!!!!

    In answer to the question of what we would eat the answer is probably each other!!!

    The superpower that no one is chucking into the melting pot for world influence and which is currently keeping very quiet is India which they reckon will be the biggest economy on the planet by 2050 and has an extremely large population and is proving to be very successful in all commercial areas and has a willing and very hard working workforce. Should the USA really reach decline of empire I wouldn't rule out India in any area for becoming the 'courted and feted' new empire that we all want to be allied to!
    Go forward with the vision even if no one else can see it!

    No amount of regretting can change the past, and no amount of worrying can change the future!
    • jk0
    • By jk0 14th Aug 17, 7:35 PM
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    Cuteness Overload
    Nothing to do with prepping, but I thought you guys might enjoy this little girl:

    https://twitter.com/roger_zhat/status/896327865947574272
    • daz378
    • By daz378 14th Aug 17, 11:10 PM
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    i had a personal shtf last weekend i went in work last sunday on an early
    with knee pain but wearing a support, i didnt feel like it , but i look after a guy with autism who only feels comfortable with 3 staff and there was already cover on the late shift 230pm ...10pm.....so i went in would take client for dinner at least he would have 1 good meal....my knee went really bad i was nearly crawling ....but just about survived till 3pm ..... when i got home knee inflamed i couldnt walk.....in agony got around my flat using a stick as a crutch with nails in it.... took me 15 minutes to shuffle to kitchen.....to eat cold tins of beans thankfully i had a cupboard full and lots of bottled water in fridge ... by sunday night i discovered i could use a breakfast chair as a zimmer frame.... i also had a stock of painkillers .... i lived in my recliner chair for 24 hours good job i had stock of painkillers phoned drs monday but no meds delivered till tuesday then colleagues brought me a zimmer frame .... didnt leave house till this saturday.....the moral is my prepps made an awful situation just about bearable and i ordered crutches from ammazin in case it happens again and online shopping from tosspots also made it bearable....sorry for going on but was a rude awakening
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