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    • molokoid
    • By molokoid 29th Jun 08, 5:46 PM
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    molokoid
    Bulk LPG - Cheapest suppliers / supply route?
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    • 29th Jun 08, 5:46 PM
    Bulk LPG - Cheapest suppliers / supply route? 29th Jun 08 at 5:46 PM
    Hi all,

    Moved into a house in Jan that has a bulk LPG tank, which was previously supplied (and the tank is owned by) Calor. The contract they were really keen for me to sign was quite a restrictive lock in one and after speaking and a bit of negotiating they dropped the standing charge and discounted the pence per litre by 12%. This only made me sceptical that they had a lot of fat in the price anyway and there seems to be limited information available on the net about bulk lpg supply (lots of websites that will find you the cheapest supply for a fee!). Seems to be crying out for a MSE article if there are enough bulk lpg owners out there.

    Anyway, i read that there is some sort of regulation coming into the market which allows me to choose the supplier i wish and in turn they buy the tank off the previous owners. This seems to be a more market competitive way of doing it, but i can't find out when this is due to happen.

    Are there any bulk lpg owners out there that can give me some advice?

    TIA
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 9th Aug 17, 1:13 PM
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    AdrianC
    Renewal time again.

    History:
    Calor 2013 - 45p/l, 16.9p/day, £150 intro bonus. We've used about 3,000 litres in two years, just shy of £1,400 all in.
    Calor 2015 renewal quote... 38p/l yr1, 41p/l yr2, 17.3p/day, £100 renewal bonus. Roughly £1,275.
    Extrafuel 2015 - 29p/l 12mo fix (max 4p/2nd yr), £60/yr, £250 bonus. Roughly £790.

    So...
    Extrafuel 2017 renewal quote - 31.5p/l yr1, 35p/l yr2, 16.43p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,120.

    Lister - Not listed as supplying here (HR3) any more on UKLPG.
    Callow - no reply to quote request via webform, email bounced, phone number not recognised.
    Countrywide - "About 34p/l, but we don't discuss prices over the phone - you can do that at the site survey".
    Flogas - 36.5p/l yr1, uncapped* market rate yr2, 17.2p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,360.
    Cardiff - 36p/l currently, uncapped market rate throughout**, 20p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,350. No contract period.
    Avanti - 29.9p/l yr1, 32.9p/l yr2, 17.2p/day, £100 bonus. Roughly £970.
    Calor - 33p/1 yr1, 36.5p/l yr2, 17.3p/day, £250 bonus. Roughly £920.

    * - I'm assuming 45p/l for yr2.
    ** - I'm assuming the current rate as an average for yr1, with 45p/l yr2.

    Looks like back to Calor, then. Switching/retention bonuses are clearly on the way out.
    • bobmac62
    • By bobmac62 9th Aug 17, 3:04 PM
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    bobmac62
    BULK LPG PRICING FOR AUGUST 2017

    New pricing from Woldlink advised as 25.81PPL +5% VAT, up slightly from 24.63PPL in July.
    • Daveahare99
    • By Daveahare99 15th Aug 17, 1:01 PM
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    Flogas are a joke of a company to deal with. Customer service if you can call it that is absolutely shocking. They have somehow managed to get an 8.5 on trust pilot.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 15th Aug 17, 1:03 PM
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    AdrianC
    Renewal time again.

    History:
    Calor 2013 - 45p/l, 16.9p/day, £150 intro bonus. We've used about 3,000 litres in two years, just shy of £1,400 all in.
    Calor 2015 renewal quote... 38p/l yr1, 41p/l yr2, 17.3p/day, £100 renewal bonus. Roughly £1,275.
    Extrafuel 2015 - 29p/l 12mo fix (max 4p/2nd yr), £60/yr, £250 bonus. Roughly £790.

    So...
    Extrafuel 2017 renewal quote - 31.5p/l yr1, 35p/l yr2, 16.43p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,120.

    Lister - Not listed as supplying here (HR3) any more on UKLPG.
    Callow - no reply to quote request via webform, email bounced, phone number not recognised.
    Countrywide - "About 34p/l, but we don't discuss prices over the phone - you can do that at the site survey".
    Flogas - 36.5p/l yr1, uncapped* market rate yr2, 17.2p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,360.
    Cardiff - 36p/l currently, uncapped market rate throughout**, 20p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,350. No contract period.
    Avanti - 29.9p/l yr1, 32.9p/l yr2, 17.2p/day, £100 bonus. Roughly £970.
    Calor - 33p/1 yr1, 36.5p/l yr2, 17.3p/day, £250 bonus. Roughly £920.

    * - I'm assuming 45p/l for yr2.
    ** - I'm assuming the current rate as an average for yr1, with 45p/l yr2.

    Looks like back to Calor, then. Switching/retention bonuses are clearly on the way out.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Callow eventually got back to me - 36p/l yr 1, +/-2p cap yr2, no bonus.
    • mcmullank
    • By mcmullank 15th Aug 17, 1:31 PM
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    mcmullank
    Renewal time again.

    History:
    Calor 2013 - 45p/l, 16.9p/day, £150 intro bonus. We've used about 3,000 litres in two years, just shy of £1,400 all in.
    Calor 2015 renewal quote... 38p/l yr1, 41p/l yr2, 17.3p/day, £100 renewal bonus. Roughly £1,275.
    Extrafuel 2015 - 29p/l 12mo fix (max 4p/2nd yr), £60/yr, £250 bonus. Roughly £790.

    So...
    Extrafuel 2017 renewal quote - 31.5p/l yr1, 35p/l yr2, 16.43p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,120.

    Lister - Not listed as supplying here (HR3) any more on UKLPG.
    Callow - no reply to quote request via webform, email bounced, phone number not recognised.
    Countrywide - "About 34p/l, but we don't discuss prices over the phone - you can do that at the site survey".
    Flogas - 36.5p/l yr1, uncapped* market rate yr2, 17.2p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,360.
    Cardiff - 36p/l currently, uncapped market rate throughout**, 20p/day, £0 bonus. Roughly £1,350. No contract period.
    Avanti - 29.9p/l yr1, 32.9p/l yr2, 17.2p/day, £100 bonus. Roughly £970.
    Calor - 33p/1 yr1, 36.5p/l yr2, 17.3p/day, £250 bonus. Roughly £920.

    * - I'm assuming 45p/l for yr2.
    ** - I'm assuming the current rate as an average for yr1, with 45p/l yr2.

    Looks like back to Calor, then. Switching/retention bonuses are clearly on the way out.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Interesting that Countrywide would not give you a price over the phone. This is a requirement that was made compulsory by the Competition Commission (See here https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/348295/Domestic_bulk_LPG_Market_Investigation_Order.pdf)

    19.3 A supplier shall make available via a telephone enquiry point quotes for the supply of domestic bulk LPG to a customer, such quotes to be provided in pounds sterling and pence per litre
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 15th Aug 17, 1:37 PM
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    AdrianC
    Interesting that Countrywide would not give you a price over the phone. This is a requirement that was made compulsory by the Competition Commission (See here https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/348295/Domestic_bulk_LPG_Market_Investigation_Order.pdf)
    Originally posted by mcmullank
    I would presume the "about 34p" was deliberate to meet the bare minimum of that.
    • foolofbeans
    • By foolofbeans 17th Aug 17, 5:29 PM
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    foolofbeans
    HI
    We had LPG tank installed 3 years ago through Calor and the service and cost has been abominable!
    Out of contract now and refusing to sign on again as they won't give us any better than 52ppl. We really need to switch to save some money but not sure which suppliers are in the South West.
    I am going through the companies on AdrianC's post but wondered how to get such a good deal?
    Prices seem to fluctuate depending on who you talk to at each company and I want to know what I'm doing wrong that we never seem to get offered a half decent deal.
    Any advice appreciated.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 17th Aug 17, 5:34 PM
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    AdrianC
    I am going through the companies on AdrianC's post but wondered how to get such a good deal?
    Originally posted by foolofbeans
    I just put my postcode (Herefordshire) into http://www.uklpg.org/advice-and-information/switching-your-lpg-supply/ then dropped a simple email to each of the suppliers. They called me or emailed me back over the course of the next day or two, and the figures I've given were the only ones they quoted.
    • JerryW
    • By JerryW 18th Aug 17, 7:57 AM
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    JerryW
    HI
    We had LPG tank installed 3 years ago through Calor and the service and cost has been abominable!
    Out of contract now and refusing to sign on again as they won't give us any better than 52ppl. We really need to switch to save some money but not sure which suppliers are in the South West.
    I am going through the companies on AdrianC's post but wondered how to get such a good deal?
    Prices seem to fluctuate depending on who you talk to at each company and I want to know what I'm doing wrong that we never seem to get offered a half decent deal.
    Any advice appreciated.
    Originally posted by foolofbeans
    - Calor will usually match other quotes if you phone them and ask for sales.
    - But please, do try Woldlink... speak to them on the phone, they are such nice folk to talk to. Just google woldlink. Get your other quotes first then phone them
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