Is this fraud

Monkeyjim · 7 January 2018 at 10:13AM

Good morning

I just want to clarify wether this is fraudulent or not, I know of a young gentlemen who is claiming benefits and DLA. He has been "unable" to work for quite a few years. However he is still able to get up at 6am to go o a paid days beating on a local pheasant shoot- the shoot starts at 8amand finishes at 1630 - involves negotiating treacherous uphill slippery terrain and walking up to 15 miles - beating through thick vegetation and woodland- he gets paid £25 per day and this occurs up to three times per week for four months of the year - now he makes an issue that he can't go on the book as he receives DLA and also has blue badge and receives a vehicle via the mobility scheme so he gets cash in hand -so is this fraud? It's very blatant there are photos all over social media of him doing the activity? I was just curious as my wife has DLA and has to declare a change in circumstance although she can't do ahuthing for herself. Thanks

fishybusiness · 7 January 2018 at 10:17AM

What are his 'conditions' allowing him to claim DLA?

Feral_Moon · 7 January 2018 at 10:23AM

DLA isn't an out of work benefit. Even millionaires can claim DLA. David Cameron claimed it for his son.

Unless you know exactly why he claims DLA and the illnesses/conditions he has then I'm not sure how you can accuse him of fraud. By the way, the mobility part of DLA isn't just for those with a physical disability.

w06 · 7 January 2018 at 10:30AM

He may or may not be committing fraud

However his employer is also breaking the law. They're paying considerably below even the low agricultural minimum wage.

TELLIT01 · 7 January 2018 at 10:31AM

His right to a Blue Badge looks dubious on the face of it, but as Feral Moon said there may be underlying reasons. If you suspect fraud you can, and probably should, report it. That can be done anonymously. Search 'reporting benefit fraud'

Stop_Watch · 7 January 2018 at 11:07AM

You can report it but it is very doubtful anything will be done about it. That is just the way it is, these people are know exactly what to say to all authorities and there us thousands of them! It is also the reason the reported fraud rate is so low.

Afraid_of_Kittens · 7 January 2018 at 11:42AM

Yes this is fraud on the face of it. To get a blue badge would indicate mobility or care needs. Beating on pheasant shoots would indicate perfect mobility as this would involve many miles walking. Video or photographic evidence is what is needed. Can't believe that they pay the beaters such a low 'wage' - those participating in the shoot would have paid a very large sum sometimes £1000 to £2000 per day. I would report it with dates times etc he is working - video evidence or photos would be helpful.

Tabbytabitha · 7 January 2018 at 1:06PM

Afraid_of_Kittens wrote: »

Yes this is fraud on the face of it. To get a blue badge would indicate mobility or care needs. Beating on pheasant shoots would indicate perfect mobility as this would involve many miles walking. Video or photographic evidence is what is needed. Can't believe that they pay the beaters such a low 'wage' - those participating in the shoot would have paid a very large sum sometimes £1000 to £2000 per day. I would report it with dates times etc he is working - video evidence or photos would be helpful.

You don't get a blue badge for care needs.

Feral_Moon · 7 January 2018 at 2:53PM

It always intrigues me when these sort of questions are posted... for the OP to know this guy gets DLA, motability car, blue badge and exactly how much he earns per day... he must know him pretty well so why not just ask him directly instead of posting on an Internet forum where nobody can actually give you the answer!

TELLIT01 · 7 January 2018 at 3:57PM

My guess is that the OP is looking for support for his suspicion of benefit fraud. No matter how well he knows the person in question it's not realistic to ask them if they are making a fraudulent claim.
On the basis of the information posted by the OP, my thoughts would be to report the suspicions. It's then down to the relevant department do decide whether to act on the report.

paragon909 · 7 January 2018 at 4:50PM

Monkeyjim wrote: »

Good morning

I just want to clarify wether this is fraudulent or not, I know of a young gentlemen who is claiming benefits and DLA. He has been "unable" to work for quite a few years. However he is still able to get up at 6am to go o a paid days beating on a local pheasant shoot- the shoot starts at 8amand finishes at 1630 - involves negotiating treacherous uphill slippery terrain and walking up to 15 miles - beating through thick vegetation and woodland- he gets paid £25 per day and this occurs up to three times per week for four months of the year - now he makes an issue that he can't go on the book as he receives DLA and also has blue badge and receives a vehicle via the mobility scheme so he gets cash in hand -so is this fraud? It's very blatant there are photos all over social media of him doing the activity? I was just curious as my wife has DLA and has to declare a change in circumstance although she can't do ahuthing for herself. Thanks

Would you prefer he was depressed and got up like midday and watched this morning, jeremy kyle show etc.

Are you jealous of him or something, Feel the need to cause trouble for the guy! Leave him alone and mind your own business.
DLA is not means tested, How do you know its DLA and not PIP hes getting?

These posts make my blood boil. Fraud is bad yes, But for your description it appears you're out to cause trouble for no reason.

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