My dog had cardiac arrest in small cage at vets after 14 hours

telboy82 wrote: »

Ok sorry ive been away but one poster was right, within half a day of him dying I did come here worked up and upset blaming the vet, I apologize for this I should of waited I can understand how me coming here with such a subject and what I said would upset people, I promise that was never my intention, out of the shock and pain I needed people to talk, and hopefully find some find some guidance, I thank you all for your input and questions, some question are hard to answer so il try my best. Lets continue...

Also yes the dog get did ill my care, I believe throwing up his breakfast was what made him il, no underlying issues what so ever were found, he was in my care for around 6 1/2 hours and his condition didnt deteriorate in that time, he was very thirsty and lethargic but because of being sick and not having enough water in his body, he hadnt drunk after his breakfast yet and not since the evening before, just the small amounts I was letting him have after being sick, as I said before I was giving him water which he was happy to drink but I didnt want to give him too much until the vet saw him, I didnt rush him to an emergency vet before this because of the trust at our vets and he wasnt deteriorating while I was watching him and letting him drink small amounts of water, so in my mind he was stable and fine just thirsty and lethargic from being sick, but wanted him checked over to make sure.
But lets clear up about this money talk, I can raise and investigation with RVC and I intend to, this will cost me nothing, but from what I can find its very unlikely that will find any mis conduct at all as to be honest vets can literally get away with anything, and im sorry accidents happen isnt quite fair, If I did take the vets to court to claim all that im able to claim is what I paid or him, the cost of that treatment and his cremation, and any days holiday my wife has lost last week and this week if lucky, so in all it does not make sense to make a claim because if I lose and have to pay their fees it could cost me tens of thousands of pounds, has this scared me off? not yet, and this is exactly how and why nothing gets changed, I think the dogs welfare acts go back to 1966 and many people are trying to get it updated.

I believe which most likely can never be confirmed is that after he was sick bringing up his entire breakfast which also emptied his stomach of any remaining water in the food,cause a reaction called "Hypernatraemia", now this is caused by a water and sodium imbalance, this can be caused by a dog licking table salt which raise his levels of sodium which is dangerous and needs water fluids to correct the balance.
My dog i believe had a water im balance from being sick, this also happens when a dog has diarrhea and loses lots of water, they need the balance correcting, either by removing sodium from the animal or adding water, firstly by offering water orally if its the water they need, i they cant drink then water solution 5% dextrose or similar but its water.
So after telling the vet he had been sick his whole breakfast and and only had small amounts of water, and you can clearly see his thirsty and ive told them his thirsty, id assume even they would conclude the dog needs water regardless and should of been considered, thats what they treated him for last time, water loss.
So if there are any vets on here id like them to answer this, if you know a dog has no water and been sick all his meal would assume of your extensive costly training that my dog needed more water in his body or more salt? in fact I bet from that information alone even some the other readers here would say he needed water, just an assumption, also lets not forget that when administering IV fluids its important to get the correct fluid or you will not help matters just make them worse causing more serious injuries and pain and death, now before using these fluids you are supposed to carry out the standard blood tests and most importantly the Biochemistry Profile test that all vets carry out, this test is easy to and is vital it can pin point where to treat an animal most times and also tells you all the body chemical levels like Salt etc, this test would o said if my dog needed water or salt, it would of told them enough to sae my dog im sure.
Well the form says a "Biochemistry not available as blood machine unable to read sample when pcv too high".
Seriously they they are saying no reading because he had too many red blood sell, thats a joke right, there machine couldnt get a blood reading, that is a very important piece o equipment i cant understand how it cant get a reading. This test has a extremly high this is what is said about this simple basic test:

Description: The serum chemistry profile is one of the most important initial tests that is commonly performed. A blood sample is collected from the patient. The blood is then separated into a cell layer and serum layer by spinning the sample at high speeds in a machine called a centrifuge. The serum layer is drawn off and a variety of compounds are then measured. These measurements aid in assessing the function of various organs and body systems.
Diagnostic Value: Very high. Sometimes a specific diagnosis may be made on the basis of a blood chemistry profile alone. More often than not, however, the profile provides information on a variety of body organs and systems, giving the doctor an indication of where a problem might be located. The profile can be extremely helpful in determining which of the many other diagnostic tests might be beneficial.
Risks to Patient: Virtually none, provided that the blood is collected under sterile conditions by a trained professional.
Relative Cost: Relatively low when a group of test are run as one panel.


So anyway ok the machine doesnt work so she had to make a decision on fluids to use, not try a bowl of water first, going back over everything that she clearly didnt listen tome she made the clever decision to put him on fluids anyway.
He is given fluids to correct his imbalance they are two 1litre bags are " Aqupharm no1" which is sodium chloride "NaCl high rate" its safe to say he wasnt getting his water and that sodium overload was of caused him much pain even death.

Lets talk about pain, so to sedate my dog they used a opium based painkiller called "Vetergesic" my dog has never had this, this wasnt to relieve pain it was to sedate him, why not use a mild sedative, this drug is very strong look it up vets having been causing animal deaths all over the country with this drug, its opium based and very addictive from the first use, most dogs ive read about get one injection and hit the deck struggling to breath and move some get put down not long after some takes weeks to recover and never quite the same, my dog had 6 injections at east on his form I just need to get the total doses, also these opium type drugs should not be mixed so after having all this one type of opioid drug a fair amount of it why inject him with a different type of opioid drug "Methadome" at 2am and leave him until he was found dead at 6am, mixing these drugs together would of been fighting each other in his body causing all kinds of reactions in his body.
They also gave him "ranitidine" this isnt even a drug approved for animals its called zantac, its for treating ulcers and stops the stops the stomach producing acid. Problem is no acid in the stomach means he can absorb drugs from his stomach and why give him this anyway. I could say more about these drugs but its easy to lok up and I could be forever explaining why I think these drugs shouldnt of been used, especially the IV fluids. I dont know what the post mortem report will have on it, its inconclusive but at least its done, and know they couldnt find anything wrong with him, Its obvious he didnt get the care he needed through negligence and mis conduct and was clearly misdiagnosed and his welfare suffered because of this, so thats all I can write or now I may not reply straight away it may even take a few day until ive got the autopsy report in hand and all the correct doses, hopefully they will tell me this when I ask tomorrow, so I think even when ive got all his information about his treatment and doses together there will be a long letter to the vets and RVC, making a complaint first, up until that time il keep seeking advice, if there is a case which im feeling there is then they need to be pursued as we are no longer living in 1966 and no animal deserves to be treated like it is.