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Viewings while packing to leave

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EmsLdn
EmsLdn Posts: 56 Forumite
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Hello all,

Not sure if I'm being unreasonable so have come here for some independent advice.

In February, our landlord gave us 2 months notice when she activated a 6-months break clause in our 2 year tenancy agreement. I love the home we have made at the property but diligently set about looking for a new home. Luckily, we found somewhere relatively quickly and will be able to move before the end of the 2 months notice period. We were asked to accommodate viewings and did so. We had our home 'show room' tidy while the property was on the market. The property is now under offer so we have started the long arduous task of packing. We are moving out next week Wednesday so you can imagine what the box situation is right now. We are knee deep in boxes, sorting through drawers and cupboards, decluttering, etc.

The question now is the buyers want to view the property again this Friday evening. I have said no for the reasons stated above. I said the property is having an 'end of tenancy clean' on Friday. The property will be both clean and empty then. They will be able to properly view the property without obstacles.

I've had an email back from the agency saying because they've given 48 hours notice, it doesn't matter. They can come in.

I thought I was being quite reasonable. Maybe I'm being terrible.

I welcome opinions on this but ask that you keep it civil.

Thanks :beer:
:hello: :footie:
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  • fed_up_and_stressed
    fed_up_and_stressed Posts: 1,673 Forumite
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    No as it isn't emergency access required you have a right to quiet enjoyment of your home.
    Spelling courtesy of the whims of auto correct...


    Pet Peeves.... queues, vain people and hypocrites ..not necessarily in that order.
  • cooltt
    cooltt Posts: 852 Forumite
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    EmsLdn wrote: »
    Hello all,

    Not sure if I'm being unreasonable so have come here for some independent advice.

    In February, our landlord gave us 2 months notice when she activated a 6-months break clause in our 2 year tenancy agreement. I love the home we have made at the property but diligently set about looking for a new home. Luckily, we found somewhere relatively quickly and will be able to move before the end of the 2 months notice period. We were asked to accommodate viewings and did so. We had our home 'show room' tidy while the property was on the market. The property is now under offer so we have started the long arduous task of packing. We are moving out next week Wednesday so you can imagine what the box situation is right now. We are knee deep in boxes, sorting through drawers and cupboards, decluttering, etc.

    The question now is the buyers want to view the property again this Friday evening. I have said no for the reasons stated above. I said the property is having an 'end of tenancy clean' on Friday. The property will be both clean and empty then. They will be able to properly view the property without obstacles.

    I've had an email back from the agency saying because they've given 48 hours notice, it doesn't matter. They can come in.

    I thought I was being quite reasonable. Maybe I'm being terrible.

    I welcome opinions on this but ask that you keep it civil.

    Thanks :beer:

    Take lots of pictures and a video with your phone of the clean property. Inform the agency you did this with whiteness present (get their body on camera, no face) should any disputes arise with the deposit payback.

    Job Done.
  • Rain_Shadow
    Rain_Shadow Posts: 1,798 Forumite
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    cooltt wrote: »
    take lots of pictures and a video with your phone of the clean property. Inform the agency you did this with whiteness present (get their body on camera, no face) should any disputes arise with the deposit payback.

    Job done.



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  • gettingtheresometime
    gettingtheresometime Posts: 6,911 Forumite
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    EmsLdn wrote: »
    Hello all,

    Not sure if I'm being unreasonable so have come here for some independent advice.

    In February, our landlord gave us 2 months notice when she activated a 6-months break clause in our 2 year tenancy agreement. I love the home we have made at the property but diligently set about looking for a new home. Luckily, we found somewhere relatively quickly and will be able to move before the end of the 2 months notice period. We were asked to accommodate viewings and did so. We had our home 'show room' tidy while the property was on the market. The property is now under offer so we have started the long arduous task of packing. We are moving out next week Wednesday so you can imagine what the box situation is right now. We are knee deep in boxes, sorting through drawers and cupboards, decluttering, etc.

    The question now is the buyers want to view the property again this Friday evening. I have said no for the reasons stated above. I said the property is having an 'end of tenancy clean' on Friday. The property will be both clean and empty then. They will be able to properly view the property without obstacles.

    I've had an email back from the agency saying because they've given 48 hours notice, it doesn't matter. They can come in.

    I thought I was being quite reasonable. Maybe I'm being terrible.

    I welcome opinions on this but ask that you keep it civil.

    Thanks :beer:
    Am I missing something? If they want to come Friday evening and the property will be clean & empty by then, I don't see the issue.
  • saajan_12
    saajan_12 Posts: 3,621 Forumite
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    Firstly you don't have to keep the place clean or at all presentable for viewings, so if it's not too much of an inconvenience for you / you don't mind, then you can let them view around your boxes and there's no issue.

    There's a lot of debate around whether you agreed to allow access in your tenancy agreement often subject to certain conditions and whether these are binding at all
    - with a certain length and format of notice
    - only for repairs / inspections / ?
    - only in last month of tenancy / contract (does this apply with a break clause?).

    In practice unless the LL has keys and you'll be out, there's little the LL can do to enforce access before you'd have left anyway. In theory if they can demonstrate they were entitled to access and your refusal caused them any direct, provable losses, they can sue you for this.

    As for next steps, if its not an inconvenience for you, I'd let them come to view around your boxes. If it is then suggest another time that would work better and explain that you don't want the viewers to get a poor impression as the boxes make the place look small / messy.
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    EmsLdn wrote: »


    I've had an email back from the agency saying because they've given 48 hours notice, it doesn't matter. They can come in.
    Not if the doors locked. Advise them viewings from next Thursday are welcome.
  • bertiewhite
    bertiewhite Posts: 1,904 Forumite
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    gettingtheresometime wrote: »
    Am I missing something? If they want to come Friday evening and the property will be clean & empty by then, I don't see the issue.

    The viewing is for THIS Friday and the OP moves out NEXT Weds which is what I'm reading.

    OP - I'd say they're welcome to view but you'll be packing. Make sure you're packing and keep saying "Excuse me, I need to get through" :)
  • EmsLdn
    EmsLdn Posts: 56 Forumite
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    Hi, I think I've explained terribly.

    Agents want to bring buyers round on 17th. Due to shift work/study/commitments, we'll be working between now and moving out date 22/23 March, so we are almost completely packed and ready to leave. End of Tenancy clean is happening on Friday 24 March (am). Property will be unoccupied from then on.
    :hello: :footie:
  • lika_86
    lika_86 Posts: 1,772 Forumite
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    Who cares if it's messy? If the viewers don't have a good impression of it then it's their problem/your landlord's problem, not yours. If you're having them in after the end of tenancy clean though, make sure that you do check out before a load of people come and traipse through the house.

    I'd let them come round whenever, it's not like they're your buyers.
  • lika_86
    lika_86 Posts: 1,772 Forumite
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    Also, having thought about this, I'd have tried to agree in writing with the landlord that an end of tenancy clean isn't required on the basis that new tenants aren't going in but instead buyers who will take the property as it is.
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