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My son, in his mid 20's, and his girlfriend are talking about setting up a home together. They are both on relatively low wages so I can't see how they could afford a mortgage and all the other ongoing expense of running a home.
Fortunately I am in a position to buy a house for my son.
I am just concerned that if they split up his girlfriend might be entitled to half of the house.
Can anyone offer any advice on best way to go about this.
Can I put it in some form of trust? Should I just buy the house in my name? Should I just let them get a mortgage and help with the payments?
Fortunately I am in a position to buy a house for my son.
I am just concerned that if they split up his girlfriend might be entitled to half of the house.
Can anyone offer any advice on best way to go about this.
Can I put it in some form of trust? Should I just buy the house in my name? Should I just let them get a mortgage and help with the payments?
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If it is a gift, your son gets to decide what he does with it
If there are strings, it is not a gift
Why not save the money for now and let them try renting together ? If it looks like it's forever, decide then.2021 GC £1365.71/ £24000 -
My son, in his mid 20's, and his girlfriend are talking about setting up a home together.
Fortunately I am in a position to buy a house for my son.
I am just concerned that if they split up his girlfriend might be entitled to half of the house.
If you buy the house and it is put in your son's name, then he will own the house.
Unless they marry, she will have no claim on the property unless she puts money into repairing and improving it.
I agree with BrassicWoman - they should try renting somewhere first to see if they can get on when they are living together.0 -
My brother and his girlfriend signed a "declaration of trust" when my parents gifted him a deposit on their first house. Basically acknowledged that if they split up my parents would get the value of their deposit back first before my brother and his girlfriend split any remaining equity.
A solicitor should be able to advise if something similar is suitable if you bought the entire house for your son and his girlfriend.
I think the situation changes after marriage so take advice on what would happen if your son gets married while they are in the house.0 -
BrassicWoman wrote: »If it is a gift, your son gets to decide what he does with it
As BW says, once the house is your son's, he can do what he wants with it - sell it and head off to live on a beach in the sunshine?
If you want some kind of control, you could lend him the money and put a charge on the house which would have to be repaid when the house is sold. That protects your money from the GF even if she became his wife.
You can decide whether you eventually give him (them?) the money depending on how life goes.0 -
As they want to get a house together and you are adding strings like her getting half, it's best to stay out of it and and leave them do it themselves.0
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Is she a wife or a girlfriend? How can a girlfriend claim for your son's property?0
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All of us struggled to afford our first home. Working together to achieve something independently of your parents is part of making a life with someone and entering the grown-up world.
Let them do it on their own. If they come to you desperate for help with a deposit or some such, then you can (carefully) get involved. But until then, leave them be.No longer a spouse, or trailing, but MSE won't allow me to change my username...0 -
My son, in his mid 20's, and his girlfriend are talking about setting up a home together.HoneyOnThePavement wrote: »How can a girlfriend claim for your son's property?
This is the problem.0 -
trailingspouse wrote: »All of us struggled to afford our first home. Working together to achieve something independently of your parents is part of making a life with someone and entering the grown-up world.
Let them do it on their own. If they come to you desperate for help with a deposit or some such, then you can (carefully) get involved. But until then, leave them be.
Just take a look at the change in average first time buyer age over the past three decades, especially in London.
Young people are paid far too little now for far too long at the start of their careers. They do not have sufficient disposable income to save substantial deposits (and nor did earlier generations but we got high LTV mortgages liberally spread upon us anyway). The average house prices in 2017 are astounding, and so are rents incurred by youngsters whilst trying to save a deposit.
We weren't cleverer or smarter. We simply took too much out of the system, pulled up the drawbridge and are rather ignorantly waving from the battlements and shouting about how to build ladders rather than providing them.
The only way the economy can be rebalanced in practice at the moment to ensure young people get on the housing ladder is for families to operate as families and give the poor youngsters a leg up (and quite obviously 'family' doesn't include the first boyfriend or girlfriend or two who come along and want to shack up).
So I understand the OP's question perfectly. It is very sensible.
It's bad enough our young people being saddled with student debt, let alone having the added risk of a shacking-up relationship suddenly becoming as financially burdensome as a celebrity divorce.
The OP is correct to use the word gift. When you give someone a gift, you do not expect them to immediately give it to someone else. In fact in most cultures, including ours, it's rude to do that. It's even ruder for an outsider to say I'm leaving but I'm taking half of it, but rudeness seems the norm these days when it comes to easy money.
I have kids also in their 20s whom I'd like to help in a similar way to the OP if they need it in a year or two.
I'd be interested in learning as much as possible about how to help without the family entering into stupid risks arising from typical shackings up in 2017.0 -
Argarnet, I totally agree with you. I've recently posted a similar question regarding best way to purchase a property for a child and am just currently scrolling through previous posts for any info I might have missed. A life spent scraping by on the breadline is plain miserable, I've been there and can't say it was particularly life enhancing or made me a better person. Why would I stand back and watch my children live through the same if I am in a position to prevent it? Anyway the advice I've been given from very helpful posters is to arrange a private mortgage. This way you lend the child the money to purchase the property but a solicitor documents the loan and you retain a charge on the property so that the outstanding loan is repaid to you when the property is sold. I think this is the route I will take though my husband is still in favour of buying as a second property and taking all the tax hits.0
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