DMP & Mutual Support Thread - Part 10

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  • Sazzie23
    Sazzie23 Posts: 2,634 Forumite
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    The other thing I noticed on the new forum was that long signatures like mine don't show up too well, and I wanna go back to the old forum, but I don't know how :-( sulks
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  • Sazzie23
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    Ok how about something like

    Welcome to the DMP mutual support thread.
    Here you can find help in starting and running your DMP, self managed, Stepchange, Payplan and any other DMP all welcome here. There is help on getting interest and charges stopped, how to start with an emergency fund, defaults, token payments and lots more.
    If you are in a DMP or thinking of one, this is the place to be. We are a non judgemental and all questions welcome.
    Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
    Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T

    Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years

    DMP support no438.
  • KID77
    KID77 Posts: 221 Forumite
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    Excellent Sazzie, perhaps you can reference the page and post number that your long page is on from this opening post? I agree your other post is too long to have on every page but its a great post so I think if you can show how to find it easily that would be really helpful :-)
    K
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  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,546 Forumite
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    edited 10 July 2015 at 7:36AM
    Sazzie23 wrote: »
    The other thing I noticed on the new forum was that long signatures like mine don't show up too well, and I wanna go back to the old forum, but I don't know how :-( sulks

    Try the solutions here --> Why can I only see the new version?

    Sazzie23 wrote: »
    I've just been on the new look forum, the front page of the thread appears on the top of each page. I'm flatter some folk think my newbie post from Jan would be good, but I think it's a bit long to be on every page. Shall we see if we can come up with something a bit more succinct, I can always paste the newbie message as the second post to the new thread if Fernie saves us space.

    Or just post it as a new thread yourself if you want, or even a post on here that I can move to make a new thread. Let me know.

    Or I can do it.

    Whatever people prefer.

    The 5,000 post thing is approx. ;)
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  • teeni
    teeni Posts: 1,193 Forumite
    Sazzie23 wrote: »
    Hi Teeni, ouch that's annoying, good to hear from you though. Its a little setback that's all, at least you can raise the boiler money by cutting the DMP payments, think how it would be if you weren't even paying that much?

    The creditors will cope, it'll add a couple of months to your DFD but in the end it's doable and that's what matters. Better than getting a pdl or putting it on your cc which is probably what would have happened before.

    It's also a timely reminder to anyone starting out about getting an emergency fund before you start your DMP, ( however I think most folk would have struggled to cover the full amount),


    I wish I hadn't been so quick to start and had built up a little emergency fund, I have been selling some stuff at car boot sales which is why I had the first £400 in savings, all gone now though and having to start again. your post made me think, your right if this had happened a few months ago it would have gone on the credit card, Also I aren't just stopping payments I am reducing them for a set period of time then returning to the original payment plan so hopefully the creditors will continue to be good to me.
  • Sazzie23
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    teeni wrote: »
    I wish I hadn't been so quick to start and had built up a little emergency fund, I have been selling some stuff at car boot sales which is why I had the first £400 in savings, all gone now though and having to start again. your post made me think, your right if this had happened a few months ago it would have gone on the credit card, Also I aren't just stopping payments I am reducing them for a set period of time then returning to the original payment plan so hopefully the creditors will continue to be good to me.

    Brilliant attitude, you'll go far with this DMP lark :j soon be back on track ::T
    Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
    Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T

    Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years

    DMP support no438.
  • Sazzie23
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    You would think that after 4 years on our DMP I’d be a little bit more clued up, but it appears not! We’ve just taken everything on face value and been grateful that we’re paying off our debts slowly but surely. I’ve never challenged those companies that have never froze interest, SC told me it was what it was but after reading this thread I can see that we were not given the best advice. We’re hoping to pay off our DMP at Christmas (parents giving us an interest free loan) but can I / is is worth still challenging those creditors that are charging us? Do you think I’d stand any chance of asking them to take historical interest charges off and use that money towards repaying the debt or is that just pushing my luck?

    If you don't try, you'll never know. Nothing to lose by trying. :D
    Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
    Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T

    Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years

    DMP support no438.
  • Sazzie23
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    edited 11 July 2015 at 12:48AM
    fermi wrote: »
    Try the solutions here --> Why can I only see the new version?




    Or just post it as a new thread yourself if you want, or even a post on here that I can move to make a new thread. Let me know.

    Or I can do it.

    Whatever people prefer.

    The 5,000 post thing is approx. ;)

    Yeah happy face, thanks Fermi, back on old version. :

    Ok so any more suggestions on what to start the new thread with

    This is what we've got so far :

    Welcome to the DMP mutual support thread.

    Here you can find help in starting and running your DMP, self managed, Stepchange, Payplan and any other DMP all welcome here. There is help on getting interest and charges stopped, how to start with an emergency fund, defaults, token payments and lots more.
    If you are in a DMP or thinking of one, this is the place to be. We are a non judgemental and all questions welcome.


    followed by my newbie post which is below
    Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
    Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T

    Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years

    DMP support no438.
  • Sazzie23
    Sazzie23 Posts: 2,634 Forumite
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    My now infamous Newbie message, slightly more generic and adapted a little.

    If we made this the second post, newbies would be able to read it before moving on to our latest posts.

    Comments and suggestions positive or otherwise all welcome

    Well done for getting this far, there may be a lot of activity on the thread at the moment, many newbies who are posting, not so newbies still DMPing and quite a few lurkers at a guess (that's ok, we don't mind, one day you'll feel up to posting and smile about how worried you were).


    So some general Newbie Advice, setting up and starting out is probably to most difficult time you will face in your DMP, so don't panic if it all seems scary and too much . Facing up to the fact you can no longer pay your debts is a massive step and very confronting for many people, this is life changing stuff so worrying is absolutely normal.

    Now you've done the horrid thing of adding it all up (often a shock) you've worked out (with SC or whoever) how much you can pay back, that's the crucial bit done, just a matter of getting the paperwork sorted.

    Despite SC being the largest debt charity, some call centre people know nothing about them, that's ok, they are just ignorant, don't let it worry you.
    All debt collection sections know about SC, some are better equipped to deal with it than others. Often the people at the front end that you speak to know nothing about how the system works, remember you do, you are better equipped than them, don't let them scare you.

    It doesn't matter if you choose to DIY DMP or SC, the plan is the same, you are paying them what you can afford and they can't have anything else. They 'reject' the plan, tough luck, keep paying it just the same, they'll get with the programme at some point.

    Some creditors will let you know they have accepted, some will just accept it and show something on the statement, some will not say anything but just stop or reduce your interest, HBOS and BC will probably still charge you interest in some form, don't panic over it, it extends your DFD but there are things you can do, start on page 1 of the thread when you have a spare few hours and then decide what to do.

    Overtime and non regular bonus payments, no you don't have to declare these, and you can choose to save them to your emergency fund, make some extra repayments to reduce your DFD, save up for F&f payments when you get enough, or even....shhhh ...spend them on a little treat but don't tell anyone. Most people go for a combination of the above, all depends on your priorities.

    When you start out and your DFD is generally 4-10 years away, you think, I want to pay as much as I can straight away so the creditors think I'm doing my best. Actually I don't think they care much, as long as you keep in touch and keep paying what you agree - so don't cut your budget so fine that you are having 4 years of hell instead of 6 years in moderate comfort. I'm not saying do your shopping at M&S, and have 4 holidays a year, but just leave yourself the option of buying a cake at birthday time, a new pair of shoes for DD and maybe a very cheap caravan break once a year.

    Try to get yourself an emergency fund before you start, savings, selling things or making token payments at the start.

    Default letters are good, they look scary but they mean the creditor is actually looking at what you pay and putting your account into limbo. If your account goes to a DcA this is usually good and they are mainly not the scary people you see on the Tv, they have all been very reasonable, and just want you to keep in touch and keep paying.

    There will be wobble times, if you have to reduce a payment, when a creditor starts grumbling or just because DFD seems a long way off, but we've all done it, you come here log on and we'll all get through it together.

    If you are having trouble with creditors, eg Someone not playing ball with sticking to what they promised, or getting information mixed up when they shift to a DcA. I'd continue to pay, the payments seem to get to where they should eventually, but if you are worried, send a recorded delivery letter to the collections team at the creditor, quoting your account number and SC ref and saying this is what is happening, these are the payments that have been made, please make your sure your accounts are up to date and let ask them to reply to you in writing so you have confirmation. It does take several months for an account to get over from creditor to DcA and often the information is limited but it's just like the original set up and the DcA will let you know to change the payments in SC, and you can just log in and do it.

    Get stuff in writing, from them to you or you to them, then there is no mistake.

    I hope this helps, there are lots of scenarios I haven't covered, but in the main it's grit your teeth, keep plodding through and it will all settle down.

    One day soon, you will be able to say l will be debt free next year:eek:
    Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
    Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T

    Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years

    DMP support no438.
  • Morning All

    Sterling work as ever Sazzie, well done and thanks

    Hope everyone doing well and surviving the summer

    HHx
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