Fine for not renewing road tax

Wig wrote:

What are you talking about?

"Why? Why would anyone be stuipid enough to take/put/keep an unlicensed vehicle on the road?"

Ok insert the word "deliberately" Obviously scum do it all the time. But anyone reading my comment #5 would be stupid to do so.

OK so change the goal posts!

We are talking in this thread about the £80 penalty fine for non renewal. We are not talking about using an unlicensed vehicle (although it has been flagged up as a warning see post #5).

I asked you to read post #5 either you did not read it or you don't see the difference between a prosecution for "failure to display/hold a current VED" and "£80 penalty charge for failure to renew VED (or SORN)".

These two things are very different.


Yes they are different, but intertwined, the O P seems to suggest the car was being used for 2 months without tax


What "other quote" of mine are you talking about? I can only assume you mean this one because you earlier replied to this one of mine

The "other quote" is in the same post,#15.


""A day late" well you see when you renew during the month that you expired it is back dated to the 1st of the month, meaning you pay for the full month, so the DVLA is happy because they have their money, and your car did not become untaxed." <<< insert "for DVLA penalty charge purposes only".
As I said, if you USE the car on the public highway you are committing an offence of not displaying a current RFL therefore by definition you cannot have 14 days grace
I was respondng to a question by Crabman....that's why I included the MSE board quote featuring Crabman, and to be perfectly clear I started off with "A day late". You see crabman was asking about the £80 fine he did not ask about using the vehicle on the highway. Presumably he had already read post #5 and understood the difference between the two issues.
I am responding to the OP, who is not Crabman , in the first instance, and to yours to put the facts out there, strictly speaking you could get penalised as even on the first day you are illegal.


As to the 14 days, I could have sworn someone once posted here a quote from the DVLA website where it said that, I have not got time to search right now, I will tomorrow. However, you do have the whole of the 1st expiry month to get it sorted, As I have explained many times before, if you do it within the first month you WILL NOT GET FINED £80.......please note NOWHERE did I say this applies to using your vehicle in the meantime on the highway, infact I specifically mentioned that you could not do that, because I knew someone like you, always comes along and confuses the two issues. I am not confusing the 2 issues, the OP gave the impression that he drove for 2 months therefore bringing in the "offence of not displaying a current RFL". And as mentioned in #4, he has been bl**dy lucky

derrick wrote:

Let me try and put it in perspective:-

Scenario1:-
RFL expires Dec 31st, you do not re license until Jan 22nd, you have committed 2 offences if driven on the public highway, unlicensed vehicle and not displaying current disc.

Scenario 2:-
As above but car left on private land, only offence is of not licensing vehicle, unless it is declared SORN, then there is no offence committed.

Is that clear enough?
The 14 day grace does NOT apply, as it does not exist.

cheekychappy wrote:

Am I doomed?
I have been rebuilding a car from almost a bare shell on my drive for the last year and a half and this SORN thing never crossed my mind, as I have never had tax on the car as bought as a rolling shell. Am I breaking the law too, as if so I may aswell scrap the shell and sell off all the parts if I am in for a large fine.