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Elysander
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Claim number D3QZ93D2
Claimant NW Car Parks Ltd (Represented by NW employee ******Name removed by Forum Team*****)
Defendant Ms R
Claim Amount £165 (£100 pcn, £40 admin, £25 court fee)
Car Park Location: Sykes Street Preston
In front of Deputy Causton
I sat in on the above case which took place just after 11.30 this morning.
The defendant and their family were celebrating a joyous occasion and had parked their vehicle in a dimly lit car park in the hours of darkness in Preston. A parking ticket was paid for and the family went off to enjoy their evening. On returning to the vehicle, the family were upset to find that a PCN was attached to the vehicle's windscreen. The ticket had been issued as the back wheel was slightly over the marking of the parking bay. Subsequent correspondence from NW was ignored, as the defendant believed that, as they had purchased a parking ticket, they were not liable for the charge. The usual chain of letters came and went until NW issued a claim. On receipt of the claim, the defendant chose to defend the claim and fully complied with the courts directions by preparing their signed and dated witness statements etc within the required time frame. Unfortunately NW chose not to provide a witness statement, merely sending the defendant an unsigned/undated document which was effectively a timeline of events. The Judge asked {name removed by MSE Forum Team} to explain why NW had not provided a witness statement, She replied by stating that this was NW's first court claim and that they did not know they needed to provide one! The Judge told {name removed by MSE Forum Team} that NW had failed to comply with the directions. NW provided photos of the vehicle parked, yet provided photos of the signage in broad daylight. The defendant questioned this and quite rightly stated that the car park was poorly lit and signs were not easily readable. {name removed by MSE Forum Team} advised the Judge that the defendant had not engaged in NW's 'fair' appeal service. The Judge asked the defendant the reason for this. They advised him that they felt that, as they had paid to park, the pcn should not have been issued in the first place and that an appeal would be futile. After a short deliberation, the Judge dismissed the claim as NW had not complied with directions and that one wheel was only slightly over the bay marking.
The self employed defendant was only awarded travel expenses of £5.50, They did ask about costs, but as they are self employed this was refused.
It must be noted that the defendant conducted themselves in a highly professional manner. I was most impressed by they way the defended the claim. I spoke to the defendant after the case and they told me that another family member had initially told them to pay the parking charge!
Congrats to Ms R for a well deserved win and for seeing NW out for a 'golden duck'!
Claim number D3QZ93D2
Claimant NW Car Parks Ltd (Represented by NW employee ******Name removed by Forum Team*****)
Defendant Ms R
Claim Amount £165 (£100 pcn, £40 admin, £25 court fee)
Car Park Location: Sykes Street Preston
In front of Deputy Causton
I sat in on the above case which took place just after 11.30 this morning.
The defendant and their family were celebrating a joyous occasion and had parked their vehicle in a dimly lit car park in the hours of darkness in Preston. A parking ticket was paid for and the family went off to enjoy their evening. On returning to the vehicle, the family were upset to find that a PCN was attached to the vehicle's windscreen. The ticket had been issued as the back wheel was slightly over the marking of the parking bay. Subsequent correspondence from NW was ignored, as the defendant believed that, as they had purchased a parking ticket, they were not liable for the charge. The usual chain of letters came and went until NW issued a claim. On receipt of the claim, the defendant chose to defend the claim and fully complied with the courts directions by preparing their signed and dated witness statements etc within the required time frame. Unfortunately NW chose not to provide a witness statement, merely sending the defendant an unsigned/undated document which was effectively a timeline of events. The Judge asked {name removed by MSE Forum Team} to explain why NW had not provided a witness statement, She replied by stating that this was NW's first court claim and that they did not know they needed to provide one! The Judge told {name removed by MSE Forum Team} that NW had failed to comply with the directions. NW provided photos of the vehicle parked, yet provided photos of the signage in broad daylight. The defendant questioned this and quite rightly stated that the car park was poorly lit and signs were not easily readable. {name removed by MSE Forum Team} advised the Judge that the defendant had not engaged in NW's 'fair' appeal service. The Judge asked the defendant the reason for this. They advised him that they felt that, as they had paid to park, the pcn should not have been issued in the first place and that an appeal would be futile. After a short deliberation, the Judge dismissed the claim as NW had not complied with directions and that one wheel was only slightly over the bay marking.
The self employed defendant was only awarded travel expenses of £5.50, They did ask about costs, but as they are self employed this was refused.
It must be noted that the defendant conducted themselves in a highly professional manner. I was most impressed by they way the defended the claim. I spoke to the defendant after the case and they told me that another family member had initially told them to pay the parking charge!
Congrats to Ms R for a well deserved win and for seeing NW out for a 'golden duck'!
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She replied by stating that this was NW's first court claim and that they did not know they needed to provide one!
There is a career for this woman at Gladstones as she is right up their street.
I'd call this a rout.0 -
Nice report Elysander, thank you for taking the time to do so. And well done to Ms R (defendant) in dealing well with court procedures.
Isn't it ironic that NW argued that as this was their first time in taking court action they should have some sympathy for not fully following court orders. One assumes that it was a first time for Ms R too - yet she had no problem in following them.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
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Brilliant to read about this win, well done Ms R!
Pathetic that they dragged her through the courts for parking over a line that couldn't be seen in the dark, holding them to terms that couldn't be seen in the dark.
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Nice one, great report
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Now as seen on the Parking Prankster
http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/nw-car-park-golden-duck-in-first-court.html
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What a complete farce0 -
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is Mr rigby a shareholder in MSE?Save a Rachael
buy a share in crapita0 -
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Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0
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