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  • Former_StepChange_Rory
    Former_StepChange_Rory Posts: 145 Organisation Representative
    Hi

    My husband and I are currently 2 years in to a DMP. Everything is going well and we are managing the payments without any problem.
    Currently, we have £100 spare each month to pay our creditors. Our debts are very large-they currently stand at £61, 500. We realise that repaying at the current rate means that our debts will never be cleared but neither of us wishes to go down the bankruptcy or IVa routes.
    My husband may soon be changing his job which will mean that his basic salary will increase. I am also due to have an increase in my working hours soon which will mean my salary will increase. My husband also has the chance to earn commission but obviously there is no guarantee with it. I understand that it is not a good idea to offer to make extra payments on a DMP as the creditors will then start to chase for more money. At the same time, i do not wish to committ extra regularly to a DMP in case the commission is not forthcoming. Can someone please advise what I can do in this situation? I have thought that perhaps saving extra money to build into a fund to offer for a !!!!!! might be an option but would I be Ok to do this?

    Hi stawberryblonde,

    As part of any DMP, your income should be reviewed regularly to make sure you’re maximising what is paid towards your debts, but on a fair basis.

    If the extra income isn’t guaranteed then you can usually make one-off payments which could help reduce the balance of your debts. If it’s a more regular change to income then you should review your budget as this might change the monthly payments.

    I’m not sure who told you that it’s not a good idea to increase DMP payments, we regularly deal with clients who receive extra income and this can make a positive difference to how long it takes to repay debts.

    I can’t comment on your DMP specifically without knowing all of the information, but I would recommend speaking to whoever is dealing with this for you. The length of a DMP should be realistic and other solutions discussed with you, especially since you’ve mentioned full and final settlements.

    If you’d like us to help then you can create a free, anonymous budget using our online Debt Remedy tool which will also look at what options you have if your situation improves.

    I hope this helps,


    Rory
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

    If money worries are keeping you awake, read Paul's success story at [url="http://www.needtosleep.org]Need to Sleep[/url]

  • Former_StepChange_Rory
    Former_StepChange_Rory Posts: 145 Organisation Representative
    Riverview8 wrote: »
    Hello, I have been in discussions with SC re starting a DMP. Currently in the process of setting up new account & transferring salary to it. This is taking a while as employer US based & has to go through US HR.
    In the meantime I have been contacting creditors as per advice. However one of my biggest loans is with Smile, whom I also bank & have my overdraft with. Salary will be going into it for at least one more payday. The advice from SC was not to inform them of DMP yet. I am due to make a payment to them on the 19th but will not have funds to make full payment due to a domestic issue. The STO goes on the 19th, I get paid on 28th(will be 26th this month due to 28th being weekend) I have asked to move STO to 28th in the past but should I just amend the STO in this instance to 26th & explain that I need to change the payment date? I can call them or send a secure message. I want to be able to pay this time & as your SC colleague said don't tell them re DMP until new acct has salary going in.
    Any advice much appreciated. Thanks a lot.


    Hi riverview,

    Great news on setting up your DMP with us. :)

    I’d recommend giving us a quick call to talk to us about your situation, we’ll be more than happy to help and we want to make sure you can get everything set up without any difficulties.

    We also want to make sure that you’re not leaving yourself in a tricky situation with your bank or having to make major changes to payments and our advisors will be able to discuss this with you.

    Details of how to get in touch with us are available on the StepChange website.

    We look forward to talking to you soon.

    Rory
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

    If money worries are keeping you awake, read Paul's success story at [url="http://www.needtosleep.org]Need to Sleep[/url]

  • jusjul
    jusjul Posts: 5 Forumite
    edited 17 September 2014 at 10:33AM
    Hi im up to my neck in payday loans and debts. Im on a debt management plan, have been for 8 years, ive now also got 4 payday loans, ive just been paid and at midnight last night every single penny has gone, I cant sleep, I need to pay my rent in 2 weeks and my other household bills, im at my wits end, my only way out is if I ended it all. Ive been trying to get a loan of £4,000 over 3 years to pay it all off, I haven't got a guarantor, if I could get loan I wouldn't have any problem paying it back as all my debts would be paid off with the loan money. Im losing the will to live now, I just wish someone would give me a chance.
  • Former_StepChange_Rory
    Former_StepChange_Rory Posts: 145 Organisation Representative
    jusjul wrote: »
    Hi im up to my neck in payday loans and debts. Im on a debt management plan, have been for 8 years, ive now also got 4 payday loans, ive just been paid and at midnight last night every single penny has gone, I cant sleep, I need to pay my rent in 2 weeks and my other household bills, im at my wits end, my only way out is if I ended it all. Ive been trying to get a loan of £4,000 over 3 years to pay it all off, I haven't got a guarantor, if I could get loan I wouldn't have any problem paying it back as all my debts would be paid off with the loan money. Im losing the will to live now, I just wish someone would give me a chance.

    Hi jusjul,

    I’m sorry to hear that things have become so difficult for you and I can’t begin to imagine how you must be feeling at the moment. There is help available, even if you feel like there’s no way out and we’ll be happy to help you.

    It’s important that your household bills and living costs are your first priority before you make any payments to your payday loans.

    I’m not sure if the loans were taken out before or after your debt management plan (DMP) but I think it would be a good idea for you to speak to whoever is managing it and make them aware of your difficulties.

    To make sure the DMP is suitable for you, it should be realistic and affordable and you shouldn't need to take out any further credit, so have a chat about that too.

    If you simply can’t afford to make the payments then you should cancel the payments. Payday loans are usually taken from your card using something called a ‘continuous payment authority’ or CPA. You can read a blogpost we wrote on cancelling CPA here.

    Once you’ve cancelled the payments you should be more in control of the situation and you can then look at your options moving forward, either with the company dealing with your DMP or with us if you’d like us to help.

    As a charity we offer free, impartial and confidential debt advice and solutions to anyone struggling with problem debts. We offer tailored advice and there’s two ways you can get help from us.

    You can use our free, anonymous online Debt Remedy tool to create a budget that we’ll use to offer practical advice and solutions to deal with all of your debts including your mortgage and utility arrears. It usually takes about 20 minutes to complete and if you get stuck you can talk to us at any time.

    Alternatively you can talk to us over the phone by visiting the StepChange website for more information.

    You'll get lots of support in the MSE threads and you're definitely not alone dealing with your debts. If it's starting to affect your health then I'd suggest speaking to your GP for more help.

    I hope this helps, we look forward to talking to you soon.

    Rory
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

    If money worries are keeping you awake, read Paul's success story at [url="http://www.needtosleep.org]Need to Sleep[/url]

  • Hi Rory many thanks for reply. each month I pay off the payday loans in full, then I have to take them out again so I can pay my rent and other bills, I feel its a no win situation ive got myself into
  • Former_StepChange_Rory
    Former_StepChange_Rory Posts: 145 Organisation Representative
    jusjul wrote: »
    Hi Rory many thanks for reply. each month I pay off the payday loans in full, then I have to take them out again so I can pay my rent and other bills, I feel its a no win situation ive got myself into

    Hi jusjul,

    This is often the case with payday loans and having to borrow more each month can cause further problems.

    Without knowing the full extent of the situation it would be difficult to tell you whether these new debts can be added to your existing DMP as in some cases you'll have agreed not to take out any further debts.

    If you want to talk to us about this further you can email us at moneyaware@stepchange.org and we'll hopefully be able to point you in the right direction.

    Rory
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

    If money worries are keeping you awake, read Paul's success story at [url="http://www.needtosleep.org]Need to Sleep[/url]

  • Hi i am coming to the end of my iva,i have 3 payments left.for the last few months the iva company have been constantly harassing me regarding ppi.two years ago i received an payment from a loan im still paying for that isnt included in my iva.the loan is secured against my property which at the moment is in negative equity.i was told at the time as it wasnt included in my iva it didnt need to declared.the iva company have now told me they will be investigating any possible ppi payments due and i now worried they will want me to pay them what i received two years ago.can they do this.im certainly not in a position to pay them as im still struggling to keep afloat.i recently felt like i was seeing light at the end of a very long tunnel but i feel like its all gonna crash around me.
  • Hi Rory.
    Thanks for your reply. I was told little while ago by my DMP company Payplan not to pay irregular one off payments to my creditors as they could start to demand more money regularly. Is this not correct?
    My husband and I are worried about the detriment effects of bankruptcy on our jobs and have heard negative stories of IVAs so feel if we can get the money together that a !!!!!! would be our solution.
  • StepChange_James
    StepChange_James Posts: 861 Organisation Representative
    Hi i am coming to the end of my iva,i have 3 payments left.for the last few months the iva company have been constantly harassing me regarding ppi.two years ago i received an payment from a loan im still paying for that isnt included in my iva.the loan is secured against my property which at the moment is in negative equity.i was told at the time as it wasnt included in my iva it didnt need to declared.the iva company have now told me they will be investigating any possible ppi payments due and i now worried they will want me to pay them what i received two years ago.can they do this.im certainly not in a position to pay them as im still struggling to keep afloat.i recently felt like i was seeing light at the end of a very long tunnel but i feel like its all gonna crash around me.

    Hi there,

    It's normally part of an IVA arrangement that you have to notify your IVA company if you come into any windfalls (such as a PPI refund) and sometimes they'll expect this money to be paid to them.

    A lot depends on what you've agreed to when you took out your IVA. So the first thing I'd suggest would be digging out your paperwork and reading up on anything in your agreement about assets and clauses about unexpected money or specifically PPI.

    That should give you a better idea of where you stand.

    Kind regards

    James
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

    If money worries are keeping you awake, read Paul's success story at Need to Sleep

  • StepChange_James
    StepChange_James Posts: 861 Organisation Representative
    Hi Rory.
    Thanks for your reply. I was told little while ago by my DMP company Payplan not to pay irregular one off payments to my creditors as they could start to demand more money regularly. Is this not correct?
    My husband and I are worried about the detriment effects of bankruptcy on our jobs and have heard negative stories of IVAs so feel if we can get the money together that a !!!!!! would be our solution.

    Hi Strawberryblonde,

    Generally speaking I think creditors are quite pleased to be sent extra money. If payments were up and down all the time then I suppose it could make creditors feel that something strange was going on and prompt them to ask for more.

    Having an income that goes up and down can make it tricky to plan a budget. It's hard to get the right balance of having enough money for yourself and paying your creditors as much as possible.

    !!!!!! (full and final settlments) can be a good option for some people but I'd not be able to say if it would be right for your situation without knowing more about your finances.

    You mention IVA, DMP, full and final settlements and bankruptcy in your message so it sounds like you're well versed in the various ways to approach debts. All of these options can work out well - it might be worth getting in touch with Payplan and getting their opinion.

    I've heard some negative stories about IVAs too but usually when they were recommended inappropriately, so I'd suggest keeping an open mind, getting some advice about all the available options and weighing up which is right for you. Payplan will be able to give you this advice. If you'd like a more in depth second opinion then our contact details are in my signature below.

    Cheers

    James
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity (formerly CCCS) and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy

    If money worries are keeping you awake, read Paul's success story at Need to Sleep

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