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    • Zenith12
    • By Zenith12 11th Mar 17, 8:18 AM
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    Evidence of employment
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    • 11th Mar 17, 8:18 AM
    Evidence of employment 11th Mar 17 at 8:18 AM
    Dear Forum,

    An odd one for you.

    A few years a ago I was made redundant by an employer, the problem is that I do not know which...there were three employers involved.

    1. I have a P45 from employer A. (Employer A paid me on behalf of employer C)
    2. My paye and nics record is with employer A.
    3. My pension record is with employer A.
    4. My redundancy payment was was employer A. (but taken later from employer C)
    5. My redundancy correspondence is from employer B.
    6. I was carrying out staff appraisals for employer A.

    Employer A insists they were not my employer. Silence from employers B and C.

    Who was employing me? I was supposed to have been tupe transferred from employer A to employer C before I was replaced.
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    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 11th Mar 17, 11:43 AM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 11:43 AM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 11:43 AM
    P45 is fairly good evidence they were your employer till the date that says.

    If you were TUPE there would be further employment records from C and another p45.
    • Zenith12
    • By Zenith12 12th Mar 17, 8:28 AM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 8:28 AM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 8:28 AM
    Hi getmore4less, thanks

    Only one P45, the employer A states that two years earlier I was tuped to employer B. Employer B was prevented from every paying me by employer A after the tupe date due to Civil Service pensions rules, basically the new employer B was not allowed to pay me. However neither of the TUPE measures statements mentions the fact that employer A would continue paying us a employees, and that employer B would be prevented from doing so. Indeed, measures statements state clearly that employer B would pay us as the new employer.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 12th Mar 17, 9:45 AM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 9:45 AM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 9:45 AM
    what date is on the P45
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 12th Mar 17, 3:51 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 3:51 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 3:51 PM
    Were you in a Civil Service department that was privatised?
    • Zenith12
    • By Zenith12 12th Mar 17, 5:47 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 5:47 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 5:47 PM
    a. Civil Service Department was not privatised.
    b. P45 from Department gives a date of 30/4/13 but I remained on full pay until 9/8/13.
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 12th Mar 17, 6:21 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 6:21 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 6:21 PM
    So you are still a Civil Servant?
    • Zenith12
    • By Zenith12 12th Jul 17, 7:49 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 7:49 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 7:49 AM
    Not according to a Minister and the Department, however a colleague has just had his retirement from the Department and the Civil Service accepted by the Department.
    • sangie595
    • By sangie595 12th Jul 17, 8:01 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 8:01 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 8:01 AM
    With four months between posts, it's obviously not really an issue. Is it?
    • Zenith12
    • By Zenith12 12th Jul 17, 9:45 AM
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    Not on here so much but had to wait for a for meeting with my MP and have written half a dozen letters
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