how do you live off student loans if it all goes on rent

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  • Rikki
    Rikki Posts: 21,625 Forumite
    I think that that many parents sub their children by keeping them rent free during holidays and giving them a small allowance (£100 per month?) during term time. After all, if they were living at home and working, very few parents would be charging a level of "keep" that cover all that it costs for them to live there.

    As has been said before, if money is tight then sensible choices need to be made as to the university and the accommodation. The loan is only supposed to support someone for 40 weeks a year, which makes the amount allowed more feasible.

    Finally, students need to accept that they won't have as much money as their friends who are working full time and that your student days are not the time for designer clothes, expensive gadgetry and (necessarily) running a car. With some parental help, most students shouldn't need to work more than about 12 hours a week.

    Students have to move out of halls in year 2.
    Students loans covered rent and food in halls , but will only just cover rent in a student house. (Rent is payable for the full 52 weeks) Then they will have to pay gas, electric and buy food.

    Working through the holidays, saving up helps ands a small part time job when they go back isn't always enough. Jobs can be hard to come by as there are lots of students wanting part time work.
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  • Idiophreak
    Idiophreak Posts: 12,024 Forumite
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    Rikki wrote: »
    Once you leave the halls after your first year. Student rented accommodation is very high and plus the cost of bills for gas,electric and food on top.

    It's high, but it's higher some places than others.

    Real life example: I went to uni in swansea - paid around £40/week from the second year on...my gf went to southampton and paid £90+ in the same period for very similar quality of accommodation. We then paid more or less the same bills on top. £50/week is a lot of money from a student budget.
  • Rikki
    Rikki Posts: 21,625 Forumite
    Wiggynut wrote: »
    why does it have to be student housing?
    (I have noticed that student housing is sometimes advertised at a higher rate of rent than 'normal' rented accommodation.

    just rent a room in a house/flat - if it's near the Uni then you will probably find other students living there too!
    (that's what I'm doing myself)

    He is renting a room in a house. It was just the name I gave to it. My mistake sorry. :o
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  • Rikki
    Rikki Posts: 21,625 Forumite
    Idiophreak wrote: »
    It's high, but it's higher some places than others.

    Real life example: I went to uni in swansea - paid around £40/week from the second year on...my gf went to southampton and paid £90+ in the same period for very similar quality of accommodation. We then paid more or less the same bills on top. £50/week is a lot of money from a student budget.


    Very true, he has city prices to pay. :eek:
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  • melancholly
    melancholly Posts: 7,457 Forumite
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    a lot depends on the student accommodation. many student landlords offer 10 month contracts with the summer off, since students often go home and it gives them time to get any repair/redecoration work done. rent in these months can sometimes be reduced since workmen have access. usually, halls are far more expensive than rented houses, since they seem to all have en-suite facilities and 'luxuries' like that ;)

    gas and electric bills can be kept down - timers, jumpers (!) and being aware are the most useful things. i'm in a shared house and some people have moved in without much of a clue of what it costs and think nothing of leaving the heating on all day 'so it's warm when they get in from work'. nice of us to pay for that! the first year of living independently in a house is usually a very important eye-openner into the real cost of living.

    i'm still a postgrad student and have limited income. it's a case of 'needs must'. i can't live in the nicest part of the city (not that i'm in a dump), i can't have a nice toasty house all through winter, i can't afford a flat on my own, i can't afford an en-suite room etc etc. it is almost always possible to find somewhere to live within a student budget (my monthly outgoings are about 40% less than halls!), but the student has to be prepared that the place won't have the same creature comforts as they probably get at their parents' place.
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  • mizzy2
    mizzy2 Posts: 149 Forumite
    I have lived in halls (really fun and although expensive a definate must), and a shared house with my mates and boyfriend. This year is a treat for my last year.
    The best thing to do is have a budget, if you cant afford to eat, you dont go out!
  • kelloggs36
    kelloggs36 Posts: 7,703 Forumite
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    My daughter has really struggled this year - she did not manage despite trying, to get a part-time job and had to live off beans on toast! She was advised at the beginning of the year to go to the Access to Learning Fund but she didn't and so when push came to shove, she found herself behind on her rent. I have been a student myself this past year, and have not been in a position to support her financially. Even those with very poor parents get no more than others - they just get a smaller loan and a bigger grant - which is no additional help to them when they need the money ie now!!! It just means they owe less at the end of it when they hopefully will have a job - so it is not a very good system to encourage more poor students.

    Anyway, daughter is hoping to get a job this year - going back before freshers, to hopefully stand a better chance. If not, then she has learned her lesson and will be applying for a hardship grand from the university - otherwise she won't be able to eat or pay any bills.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    kelloggs36 wrote: »
    My daughter has really struggled this year - she did not manage despite trying, to get a part-time job and had to live off beans on toast! She was advised at the beginning of the year to go to the Access to Learning Fund but she didn't and so when push came to shove, she found herself behind on her rent. I have been a student myself this past year, and have not been in a position to support her financially. Even those with very poor parents get no more than others - they just get a smaller loan and a bigger grant - which is no additional help to them when they need the money ie now!!! It just means they owe less at the end of it when they hopefully will have a job - so it is not a very good system to encourage more poor students.

    Anyway, daughter is hoping to get a job this year - going back before freshers, to hopefully stand a better chance. If not, then she has learned her lesson and will be applying for a hardship grand from the university - otherwise she won't be able to eat or pay any bills.

    The combined maintenance loan and grant is over £6,000, considerably more than the loan on its own. With the minimum bursary and for the 40 weeks it has to cover, this gives an income of at least £150 per week. Without suggesting that this is untold riches, this should certainly cover more than beans on toast! I also cannot believe that an average student hasn't been able to find a few hours bar, retail or care work if they've been looking for the whole year!

    Students whose parents should contribute but don't are always going to find things difficult but those from low income families who receive full funding should be able to manage, and with a few hours part time work, manage quite well.
  • I chose the most expensive city in the world to go to uni in, but I wouldn't change it for the world. Guaranteed, I worked before uni and started work again in my 2nd year so I could afford to live a comfortable life. I also get £160 off my parents a month (this covers 1.5 weeks of rent). I know friends who get nothing from their rents or some who get loads. I however, have a difficult situation and had to actually sue my father for maintenance (long story - walked away from family, owes mother £25,000 in CSA etc). I really do encourage people, if they can, to get a job during term time. I work part time as a nanny in Wimbledon and although it's difficult, I feel like I get a real sense of money, I earn £80 a week so this REALLY helps. I also really enjoy the fact I can escape the uni life and meet and talk to other people. I love uni, but sometimes it can be overwhelming. A job seemed to really help me out, in terms of socialising and money.

    My sister was too ill with ME to work during uni but she worked the odd summer holidays temping, so even if you can't work during term time, there are always holidays!
  • The_One_Who
    The_One_Who Posts: 2,418 Forumite
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    The combined maintenance loan and grant is over £6,000, considerably more than the loan on its own. With the minimum bursary and for the 40 weeks it has to cover, this gives an income of at least £150 per week. Without suggesting that this is untold riches, this should certainly cover more than beans on toast! I also cannot believe that an average student hasn't been able to find a few hours bar, retail or care work if they've been looking for the whole year!

    I would love to have over £6,000! In Scotland it is £4,500 (if you live away from home, just under £4,000 if still at home) so a bit of a difference.

    If you live in a city then it should be quite easy to get a job provided you aren't picky about what you do. There are always lots of cleaning jobs, or bar jobs.
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