Vodafone to Change Prices from 11 Oct 2011

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  • Hi all

    I received the text from Vodafone regarding the increases on the 15/09/11 at 10:45.

    My last bill, before the text informing me was on the 17/08/11 so am I correct in assuming that I use this to calculate the last bill for terminating my contract with them? I went significantly over my bill.

    I have tried calling their customer services but they don't seem to be able to tell me and keep talking about cancellation charges etc!


    Many thanks
    Toblerone
  • TehJumpingJawa
    TehJumpingJawa Posts: 656 Forumite
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    edited 18 September 2011 at 1:23PM
    How to calculate my bill and the percentage change in what I'll be paying? If I emailed it to someone and worked it our for me. My maths head is not on!

    1) Download your .csv bill from the vodafone website. (View bills->Billed usage tab->small 'Download all' icon)
    2) Open the downloaded .csv in openoffice (you can get openoffice from here)
    3) On the import dialog select comma as the only cell separator.
    4) Select a box of cells(hold shift), from A1 across to E1, and then down to the row containing your last call. (the row immediately before 'Total of XX calls'). Right click->copy.
    5) Save my template spreadsheet from here, and then open it. (it's the BLUE download button at the bottom, not the green/red one in the centre of the page; the latter is an advert!)
    6) Paste what you previously copied from your bill into cell A1 of my template spreadsheet. (right click->paste)
    7) Change cell I5 to be your present monthly tariff (including VAT)
    8) Change cell G5 to be the number of free minutes included in your tariff.

    The spreadsheet will/should do the rest.

    Note, it has lots of limitations.
    a) It doesn't factor in text messages
    b) It only recognises landline, voda & cross-network call types.
    c) The spreadsheet recomputes your present call cost according to the tariffs on MY contract; yours may be different. To check, compare cell M2 with your pre-VAT call costs as shown on your Vodafone bill. If they differ, then you can manually enter your current call cost into cell M2 to override my calculations & it'll still give you an accurate % cost change.
    d) If you make more than 992 calls, you'll have to extend the spreadsheet!

    :edit:

    Updated spreadsheet & instructions to fix an omission.
  • aaj123
    aaj123 Posts: 518 Forumite
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    I hadn't considered that the new 1 minute minimum call charge would effect the monthly allowance usage..... if it does that's an enormous change !

    Updated my spreadsheet to include this, and it changes my previous month's bill from what was a 36.94% increase upto massive 60.62% increase!
    (FYI rounding min call durations upto 1 minute increased my total number of used minutes by 20.14%; from 2:00:10 up to 2:24:22)

    I have looked at the announcement on the Vodafone website and I can see that the one minute call rounding applies only to calls made outside your allowance i.e the ones you will be charged for. I don't see anything that suggests that min one minute rounding will apply to calls within the inclusive allowance. Am I missing something?
  • c-m
    c-m Posts: 770 Forumite
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    simax wrote: »
    I've read the T+C's now - you can terminate if your total bill from the previous month would be 10% higher or more under the new charges.

    Any change in terms is a good enough reason by law to set aside a contract. It makes no difference what the Vodafone T&C say. The company could be anything they like in the t&cs, that doesn't mean that the court would find them fair.
  • gjchester
    gjchester Posts: 5,741 Forumite
    c-m wrote: »
    Any change in terms is a good enough reason by law to set aside a contract. It makes no difference what the Vodafone T&C say. The company could be anything they like in the t&cs, that doesn't mean that the court would find them fair.


    Correct to a point. If it's stated stated in the T&C they may put up prices by inflation there is no argument. No court is seriouly consider a rise by the same (or less) than inflation to be unfair.
  • qpop
    qpop Posts: 555 Forumite
    I'd be interested to hear if there are any success stories. I think c-m has a point - just because they state that you have to prove price changes to be negligent in their contract, doesn't make their contract fair under fair contract terms.

    Would anybody be bothered enough to talk to OFT or consumer direct about this one?
    I am an IFA, but nothing I say on this forum constitutes financial advice. Always draw your own conclusions and always do your own research.
  • gjchester
    gjchester Posts: 5,741 Forumite
    qpop wrote: »
    I'd be interested to hear if there are any success stories. I think c-m has a point - just because they state that you have to prove price changes to be negligent in their contract, doesn't make their contract fair under fair contract terms.

    Would anybody be bothered enough to talk to OFT or consumer direct about this one?


    This is a commercial decision by Vodafone and would be outside OFCOM's sphere of influence.

    There may be some people who can opt out but they will only be a few who have regularly exceed their allowance, pay more than there bundle costs and have done so frequently in the past months.
  • qpop
    qpop Posts: 555 Forumite
    OFCOM weren't who I was referring to, to be clear I meant the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) - and specifically their legislation/guidance on unfair contract terms:
    http://www.oft.gov.uk/about-the-oft/legal-powers/legal/unfair-terms/guidance

    i.e just because you write into a binding contract that any price rises are consented to automatically, doesn't make it so (in the eyes of the law at least)
    I am an IFA, but nothing I say on this forum constitutes financial advice. Always draw your own conclusions and always do your own research.
  • I just worked my bill out and if it were identical, under the new call charges, there would be a 15% increase because of the minimum charge that they're bringing in. I want to phone Vodafone tonight and tell them that I want to cancel my bill on the basis of this. Anything else I need to know before I do it? Will they ask for my phone back? Thanks guys! This information was a GOD SEND. x
  • qpop
    qpop Posts: 555 Forumite
    I recommend sending an email through the link I posted earlier (check back) to the CEO's office, along with your workings out and the contract terms.

    Someone from the executive complaints office should give you a call back in the next day or two.

    If they don't send the same thing in letter form to them, explicitly stating you wish to terminate the contract with no charges under the terms you signed it, due to the change in costs, along with yourt workings out, and send it special delivery signed for. Keep the receipt!

    Their call centres as standard are pretty poor and without perseverence I doubt you'll get very far with them.
    I am an IFA, but nothing I say on this forum constitutes financial advice. Always draw your own conclusions and always do your own research.
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