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  • cloud_dog
    cloud_dog Posts: 6,044 Forumite
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    A couple of things....

    1) You no longer own BG, you will have a holding in Royal Dutch Shell (RSDB shares)

    2) You don't have to sell the shares (as far as I am aware), you could transfer ownership free of charge.

    Would any of the family happily accept the shares in lieu of cash?
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  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,035 Forumite
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    Are they share certificates, they can be sold anywhere. The equinty thing is generally a shake down on people who dont know better. Nominate another broker if possible
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,035 Forumite
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    Monday April 10

INTERIMS
Empiric Student Property

INTERIM DIVIDEND PAYMENT DATE
Aurora Investment Trust, Colefax Group

FINALS
Highland Gold Mining Ltd., Safestay, Thalassa Holdings Ltd. (DI)

ANNUAL REPORT
LiDCO Group

AGMS
Bank Audi S.A.L. GDR (Repr 1'Com'Shr Lbp1650)(Reg S)

TRADING ANNOUNCEMENTS
Grafenia

Tuesday April 11

INTERIMS
APC Technology Group, Applied Graphene Materials , Egdo! n Resources

INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC ANNOUNCEMENTS
Industrial Production (EU) (10:00)

FINALS
JD Sports Fashion, Vedanta Resources

ANNUAL REPORT
Yu Group

SPECIAL DIVIDEND PAYMENT DATE
Ferrexpo

AGMS
Law Debenture Corp., Porvair

TRADING ANNOUNCEMENTS
Ramsdens Holdings

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Producer Price Index (09:30)
Retail Price Index (09:30)

Q1
XP Power Ltd. (DI)

Wednesday April 12

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Haynes Publishing Group

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MBA Mortgage Applications (US) (12:00)

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Tesco

SPECIAL DIVIDEND PAYMENT DATE
M. P. Evans Group

EGMS
Draganfly Investments Ltd.

AGMS
Hunting, Low & Bonar, TMT Investmen ts, Verona Pharma

TRADING ANNOUNCEMENTS
Atkins! (WS), Pagegroup

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Claimant Count Rate (09:30)

FINAL EX-DIVIDEND DATE
Sagicor Financial Corporation Limited (DI)

Thursday April 13

INTERIM DIVIDEND PAYMENT DATE
Abcam, Clinigen Group, Dunelm Group, Trifast, Tristel

INTERIM EX-DIVIDEND DATE
Manchester & London Investment Trust, Northamber

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GlaxoSmithKline, Regional REIT Limited

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M. P. Evans Group

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Asian Growth Properties Ltd Com Shs (DI)
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esure Group, Savills, Sherborne Investors (Guernsey) 'B' Limited

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Drax Group, Heavitree Brewery, ROS Agro GDR REG S

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Hays

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Grafton Group Units, Low & Bonar

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Origin Enterprises

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  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,035 Forumite
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    This seems a good write up on value in a share vs price

    https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/66aazx/berkshire_hathaway_is_undervalued/

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  • ian-d
    ian-d Posts: 371 Forumite
    Are we allowed to discuss individual shares in this thread? If so, I would like some views on 'Lloyds Banking Group plc (LLOY)' as a long-term investment. After the turmoil they have been through, they would appear to have got their **** together, and I certainly like them as a bank to deal with, nice UI, great customer services, decent enough range of products, but that doesn't mean much at the top-end. Would their financials suggest the 60-70p mark is about their upper range, or could we see a return to the glory days for them?
  • AnotherJoe
    AnotherJoe Posts: 19,622 Forumite
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    I've got some in my income portfolio.i don't expect them to grow a lot since higher income shares generally don't.
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,035 Forumite
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    A share that pays no income is just retaining its dividends really and vice versa. BRK never pays anything but the price reflects its retained earnings

    Lloyds is one I watch, its price was 'diluted' by government divesting its position. They have a unique hold over the UK and generally should do well with good practise, I think 1 in 3 are customers of this company. They can be 100p but are held back by previous mistakes with PPI and also they have bought MBNA which Im not sure is great long term but is nice profit while we have this rates situation
  • grey_gym_sock
    grey_gym_sock Posts: 4,508 Forumite
    sabretoothtigger wrote: »
    A share that pays no income is just retaining its dividends really

    or it's not making any profits :)
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,035 Forumite
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    edited 20 April 2017 at 8:31PM
    Well yea but a share can pay dividends and make a loss, in theory the share price should keep falling but we know prices are not always accurate.
    A famous fund manager Woodford complains our big listed oil companies are liquidating not actually profitable enterprises, they pay dividends from asset sales and he believes the stocks are not to be held if I remember right.
  • Pincher
    Pincher Posts: 6,552 Forumite
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    edited 20 April 2017 at 10:43PM
    ian-d wrote: »
    Would their financials suggest the 60-70p mark is about their upper range, or could we see a return to the glory days for them?

    http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices/stocks/summary/fundamentals.html?fourWayKey=GB0008706128GBGBXSET0


    Net Asset Value per Share (exc. Intangibles)!
    2012 53.70p
    2013 49.10p
    2014 64.19p
    2015 60.42p
    2016 63.18p

    Funnily enough, the share price is ~64p today.


    Remember Joseph and the Amazing Techni-coloured Dream Coat?
    Seven years of plenty, followed by seven years of famine.

    A decade ago, Lloyds was the dividend King, giving ~8%, year after year, which is your glory days, and then the years of zero dividends post credit crunch and government bailout.

    Dividend started again in 2015.

    FY2014 0.75p
    FY2015 2.75p
    FY2016 3.05p

    Pretty close to seven years of famine. Spooky.

    Nice annual results on 22 February 2017, and a claimed progressive dividend policy. At 64p a share, 3.05p dividend is 4.7%. If you bought at 64p, and the dividend goes up to 3.3p next year, that's 5.1%.

    It went ex-dividend on 6th April 2017, paying 2.2p .
    I bought some at 65.6p on 5th April So I am getting
    ~4.6% = 3.05 / 65.6

    Well, I also have some I bought at 69p, around 22nd February, so 4.4% on those.


    http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/alliance-news/detail/1491204004610683100.html

    "The UK government's holding in the bank now stands at 1.97%, or approximately 1.41 billion shares. This was reduced from its previous level of 2.10 billion shares, with the share sale made at an undisclosed price."

    The government seems to sell at a discount, since why would any institution buy at a premium? So, the sneaky backroom sales are probably holding the open market price down.

    I feel perfectly happy if it hangs around 65p, with +/-5p wobble, and paying 4.5%. I do expect it creeping up as the dividend goes up.
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