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UKCPS and winning in court
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How naive you lot are. UKCPS has won more court cases than I have had hot dinners (and I have had a few of those). All ignore gets you is a big fat CCJ. Barely a week goes by without another legendary UKCPS court win.
We particularly like facing the "Eagles". Never lost against them yet
Ahahahahah Your name sums you up altogether especially the last syllable.
Anyway perky of the pies this is what i stick on hundreds and hundreds of cars in supermarket car parks...........fnaar fnaar
PRIVATE PARKING TICKETS - DON'T PAY!
IT IS NOT A FINE! YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL!
This is an information page for the thousands of people who receive "tickets" from private companies in the UK ever day at supermarkets, retail parks, and in any other privately-owned carpark.
We are NOT encouraging anybody to openly flout parking restrictions on private land, or to refuse to pay reasonable charges for parking. Landowners have a right to make reasonable charges for the use of their land.
For advice specific to your case, you should visit the forums at http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163
1. What you should know about these companies
It is important to remember that private parking companies (or PPCs as they are often called) have NO OFFICIAL POWERS - that's right, none at all! They give out their "tickets" on the basis that you have seen the signs in their car park and that you have therefore agreed to a contract obliging you to pay a certain sum of money.
2. What happens to people who don't pay?
In 99.9% of cases, absolutely NOTHING! The company pays the DVLA £2.50 to get your address, and then sends lots of threatening letters. In the main, these letters can be safely IGNORED. The only way the company can actually force you to pay is by taking you to the small claims court, which costs them even more money. And they are by no means guaranteed to win! And they practically never do.
The two main reasons for this (among others) are the following:
- Only the person DRIVING the car could ever have agreed to any such parking contract. The company can only get the Registered Keeper's address from the DVLA: you don't have to tell them who was driving.
-Many of these charges are so extortionately high that they constitute a penalty, which is unenforceable in a consumer contract.
3. Can they affect my credit rating?
NO! The only way your credit rating could be affected by ignoring private parking companies is if you were taken to court, lost, and then still refused to pay. But they will not take you to court.
IN SHORT
The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE tickets from private parking companies, they are not official fines.
The vast majority of the time, you can safely IGNORE the threatening letters, including those from debt collection agencies.
You DO NOT have to pay a penny of your hard-earned money to these companies. Remember that the chances of being taken to court are very slim indeed.
DO NOT IGNORE COURT PAPERS!
If you receive real court papers from a private parking company (very rare) then you should go to http://forums.pepipoo.com or http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences for help defending the claim. Do not be afraid to sign up and ask questions regarding any paperwork you are not sure about.
Don’t believe the above? Watch a solicitor on Watchdog advising you what to do with the scam invoices.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA
THEY ARE NOT FINES
Only the Police, Courts or Council’s can fine you. NOT a private company, please remember that.
It would be nice to know if someone posts on here as found one on their windscreen. usually Huddersfield and Morley.
Read it and weep perky.0 -
http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?144471-Perky-DEFEATED-in-Oldham-County-Court-12-MAY-08-***won-on-2nd-Hearing-***/page5
just came across the above case and want to see what peoples thoughts are to it? Apologies now if its already been discussed. The overall feeling from it is that ignoring their letters is bad advice. This goes against everything i have been told0 -
How naive you lot are. UKCPS has won more court cases than I have had hot dinners (and I have had a few of those). All ignore gets you is a big fat CCJ. Barely a week goes by without another legendary UKCPS court win.
We particularly like facing the "Eagles". Never lost against them yet
Why post this drivel?
Why don't you just quietly carry on taking people to court (lol as the kids say), surely its more profitable!
In the meantime find a large stone.0 -
Besides, in the end, when they start taking cases to court, they will be recognised for what they are, and with the amount of court time being wasted by PPC's, a nice firm end will be put to their scams. Surprised it hasn't happened already TBH, clamping will see its end soon, PPC's will be next.0
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Dealt with fairly and squarely, unlike the way 'they' deal with 'us'If it moves; sue it!0
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The overall feeling from it is that ignoring their letters is bad advice. This goes against everything i have been told
a) it may reveal you as being tlhe driver or be seen as an admission of guilt - this may go against you, and increase the probability of them bringing a court case if you can be identified. Remember, all the plastic parking officer saw and is likely to have taken a picture of is your car, and not you. They cannot prove you were driving, then we move to the registered keeper versus driver debate. Only the driver could have agreed to any contract, the registered keeper is merely the registered keeper. Anyone could have driven and the keeper is not obligated under law to reveal who was driving to a PPC (the case is different for instance where the Police request the information in NIPs).
b) it gets them all excited thinking you might cave in and they harass you all the more.
There have been some cases in the past where those who have had a claim attempt against them in court have told the judge they were advised not to respond to the letters, and the judge was happy with that, and the PPC lost.0 -
http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?144471-Perky-DEFEATED-in-Oldham-County-Court-12-MAY-08-***won-on-2nd-Hearing-***/page5
just came across the above case and want to see what peoples thoughts are to it? Apologies now if its already been discussed. The overall feeling from it is that ignoring their letters is bad advice. This goes against everything i have been told
I don't think that you have read all of the consumer action group forums properly, particularly the comments on Trolls!!!0 -
Just how thick
UKCPS website
Oh no I need to login to get access
http://ukcps.net/index.php
or you could just go here and get access
http://ukcps.net/contact.php
Why?I all have learnt is from others on many sites.
Seek legal help if unsure.
Dont pay Private Parking tickets - they are mere invoices.
PRESS THANKS
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That website is hilarious:
"Are 'Parking Charges' legal?
Yes. Parking on private land without permission is tresspass, a Civil offence. It is legal to levy a parking charge which has been notified (by our signs) to motorists. By parking on land we patrol you enter into a contract as indicated by our signage. Motorists do have a legal right of appeal and the parking charge notice gives full details of this."
One minute it is tresspass (sic) and then it is contract. They don't even know the difference.
This from a company which has, according to its own propaganda, won court cases. Hmmm.0 -
If they had it would be plastered over their site!!!!I all have learnt is from others on many sites.
Seek legal help if unsure.
Dont pay Private Parking tickets - they are mere invoices.
PRESS THANKS
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