My devil mother is seeking forgiveness before she dies!

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  • splishsplash
    splishsplash Posts: 3,055 Forumite
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    I don't understand the advice to forgive in these situations. I guess a lot depends on your definition of forgiveness. I think of it as a pardon with a view to restoring a relationship. It is essentially done for the person who has wronged you, by you. Makes no sense to me.

    I'm perfectly capable of moving past the wrongs that have been done to me, understanding why things happened and letting go of the anger and resentment caused by such wrongs.

    To forgive is a step too far and not something I am interested in or see the value of.

    In your case, OP, your mother is asking forgiveness for her as she faces her mortality. In a way, you're just an instrument to help her feel better about herself.

    I'd ignore her request, I think, if I were you.

    Confronting her and telling her how much you hate her will serve no useful purpose. It is telling, though, that you still feel hate and had such a strong reaction to her letter. It shows you are still very much tethered to that part of your life. That is not healthy and you need to figure out how to process and assimilate what happened to you and move on from it.

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  • missbiggles1
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    I don't understand the advice to forgive in these situations. I guess a lot depends on your definition of forgiveness. I think of it as a pardon with a view to restoring a relationship. It is essentially done for the person who has wronged you, by you. Makes no sense to me.

    I'm perfectly capable of moving past the wrongs that have been done to me, understanding why things happened and letting go of the anger and resentment caused by such wrongs.

    To forgive is a step too far and not something I am interested in or see the value of.

    In your case, OP, your mother is asking forgiveness for her as she faces her mortality. In a way, you're just an instrument to help her feel better about herself.

    I'd ignore her request, I think, if I were you.

    Confronting her and telling her how much you hate her will serve no useful purpose. It is telling, though, that you still feel hate and had such a strong reaction to her letter. It shows you are still very much tethered to that part of your life. That is not healthy and you need to figure out how to process and assimilate what happened to you and move on from it.

    I wish you the best.

    I disagree, forgiveness is as good for you as it is for the person who needs forgiving. I doubt that you can move on without it.
  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 16,618 Forumite
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    You say that she is on her way to hell, which suggests you are a religious person, so what guidance does your particular good book give on the subject of forgiveness?

    Is sounds like both of you have had a pretty miserable life, but what ever you do do not send her a hate filled reply, it would be cruel, and reflects very badly on you.
  • catkins
    catkins Posts: 5,703 Forumite
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    I wouldn't go and confront her, I would either ignore the letter or send it back.
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  • lobbyludd
    lobbyludd Posts: 1,464 Forumite
    edited 24 July 2016 at 12:00PM
    i'd put the questions of morality out of your head: how you feel, what you'd like to do is an entirely rational and normal response the the hurt inflicted on you as a child.

    I think you need some support other than a non-specialist forum with people who, however well meaning, suggest a course of action that is applicable from their experience, but may well not apply here.

    is there a nar-anon or al-anon in your area? (these are the ones for family father than the addicts, are low to no cost voluntary contributions and will be populated with people who understand exactly what you are going through and meet you where you are without judgement). Try a few groups though if you can, some may "fit" better than others, and I'm an atheist and it till worked for me :)

    few thoughts though.

    Is the only evidence you have of her terminal diagnosis her letter? I would advise extreme caution - would not be the first time I've known an addict lie about a terminal diagnosis, even to family, in order to fulfil some need.

    she may very well still be active in her addiction, or basically still thinking in a manner as if she is. You will know what that means in terms of the futility of anything getting through to her and the impact on your psyche of trying, and whether it's worth it for you.

    you don't owe her absolution, she gets to make her own peace with her maker. A process of forgiving what happened for your own sake: a being able to release that hurt and very justifiable anger doesn't include absolution, nor indeed does it have to involve her at all - it is worth while, but it takes a time and help, because it's hard, it's not about forgetting, and is a process not a decision.

    whatever you decide will be the best decision - trust yourself and good luck.
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  • paddy's_mum
    paddy's_mum Posts: 3,977 Forumite
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    There is, so far as I read the OP, no suggestion of visiting or becoming involved in the mother's life which would be a whole different kettle of fish.

    The woman has written a letter of remorse and asked for forgiveness.

    I feel that silvercar's response in post number 17 is probably the best one. It is not cruel, allows both women to acknowledge the injuries of the past but does not allow false hope or offer expectation.
  • silvercar
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    Devils can occasionally lie about their imminent demise.
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  • Andypandyboy
    Andypandyboy Posts: 2,472 Forumite
    I disagree, forgiveness is as good for you as it is for the person who needs forgiving. I doubt that you can move on without it.

    I think that is probably true, but in some cases, acceptance and letting go of the anger is as good as it gets.

    I can't imagine ever forgiving someone who killed my child for example ( God forbid) but I can see that at some point, for my own sake and others, I would have to accept what had happened and let go of the anger.
  • Andypandyboy
    Andypandyboy Posts: 2,472 Forumite
    edited 24 July 2016 at 12:30PM
    Andrew Ryan 89;

    For goodness sake, read between the lines here, and respect the OP's wishes. That is a very unkind and unecessary post.
  • cyantist
    cyantist Posts: 560 Forumite
    Andrew Ryan 89: there are some people who are evil enough or do things that are bad enough to deserve that much hate.

    The OP doesn't want to go into details about what happened and I can't even begin to contemplate what they must have gone through during their childhood. Maybe you should think about that and amend your post.
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