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CEL Defense for overstay @ Gym Car Park

Hi All,

In February last year i overstayed at the gym car park - there is a 3 hour limit and I stayed there for 4 hours.
I've submitted my " I wish to defend all of my claim" on the MCOL and have my defense below.


Would anyone be able to provide any useful feedback on either my defense or if I can go to the gym and ask for them to cancel the claim or contact CEL to cancel the charge etc?
Defense is below


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I am ******* the defendant in this matter and registered keeper of vehicle *****. I currently reside at ***.

The Claim Form issued on the **** by Civil Enforcement Limited was not correctly filed under The Practice Direction as it was not signed by a legal person but signed by “The Legal Team”.

I deny I am liable for the entirety of the claim for each and every one of the following reasons:

1/ This case can be distinguished from ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67 (the Beavis case) which was dependent upon an undenied contract, formed by unusually prominent signage forming a clear offer and which turned on unique facts regarding the location and the interests of the landowner. Strict compliance with the BPA Code of Practice (CoP) was paramount and Mr Beavis was the driver who saw the signs and entered into a contract to pay £85 after exceeding a licence to park free. None of this applies in this material case.

2/ This Claimant has not complied with pre-court protocol:
(a)There was no compliant ‘Letter before County Court Claim’, under the Practice Direction, despite the Defendant's requests for this and further information.
(b) This is a speculative serial litigant, issuing a large number of identical 'draft particulars'. The badly mail-merged documents contain very little information. The covering letter merely contains a supposed PCN number with no contravention nor photographs.
(c) The Claim form Particulars were extremely sparse and divulged no cause of action nor sufficient detail. The Defendant has no idea what the claim is about - why the charge arose, what the alleged contract was; nothing that could be considered a fair exchange of information.!

3/ I put the Claimant to strict proof that it issued a compliant notice under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Absent such a notice served within 14 days of the parking event and with fully compliant statutory wording, this Claimant is unable to hold me liable under the strict ‘keeper liability’ provisions.!
Henry Greenslade, lead adjudicator of POPLA in 2015 and an eminent barrister and parking law expert stated that “However keeper information is obtained, there is no ‘reasonable presumption’ in law that the registered keeper of a vehicle is the driver. Operators should never suggest anything of the sort.”!

4/ Inadequate signs incapable of binding the driver - this distinguishes this case from the Beavis case:
(a) Sporadic and illegible (charge not prominent nor large lettering) of site/entrance signage - breach of the POFA 2012 Schedule 4 and the BPA Code of Practice and no contract formed to pay any clearly stated sum.
(b) Non existent ANPR 'data use' signage - breach of ICO rules and the BPA Code of Practice.
(c) It is believed the signage was not lit and any terms were not transparent or legible; this is an unfair contract, not agreed by the driver and contrary to the Consumer Rights Act 2015 in requiring a huge inflated sum as 'compensation' from by an authorised party using the premises as intended.
(d) No promise was made by the driver that could constitute consideration because there was no offer known nor accepted. No consideration flowed from the Claimant.

5/ BPA CoP breaches - this distinguishes this case from the Beavis case:
(a) the signs were not compliant in terms of the font size, lighting or positioning.
(b) the sum pursued exceeds £100.
(c) there is/was no compliant landowner contract.

6/ No standing - this distinguishes this case from the Beavis case:
It is believed Civil Enforcement do not hold a legitimate contract at this car park. As an agent, the Claimant has no legal right to bring such a claim in their name which should be in the name of the landowner.

7/ No legitimate interest - this distinguishes this case from the Beavis case:


8/ The Beavis case confirmed the fact that, if it is a matter of trespass (not breach of any contract), a parking firm has no standing as a non-landowner to pursue even nominal damages.

9/ The charge is an unenforceable penalty based upon a lack of commercial justification. The Beavis case confirmed that the penalty rule is certainly engaged in any case of a private parking charge and was only disengaged due to the unique circumstances of that case, which do not resemble this claim.

10/ The claimant has added unrecoverable sums to the original parking charge.

The Defendant denies any liability whatsoever to the Claimant in any matter and asks the Court to note that the Claimant has:
(a) failed to disclose any cause of action in the incorrectly filed Claim Form issued on 21 February 2017
(b) failed to respond to a letter from the Defendant dated *** requesting further information and details of the claim

The vague Particulars of Claim disclose no clear cause of action. The court is invited to strike out the claim of its own volition as having no merit and no reasonable prospects of success.

I believe the facts contained in this Defence Statement are true.

Signed
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Comments

  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 12 March 2017 at 2:59PM
    you should ALWAYS try to get the retailer (as in GYM) or better still the landholder (if different) , or MA (if its a retail park or a rental etc) to cancel the charge , or at least write a letter saying they do not wish a court claim to be pursued

    the more ammunition you have , the better , yet people enver seem to think about doing this , despite what the NEWBIES sticky thread says

    a judge will always be swayed by what a landholder has to say on the matter
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,373 Forumite
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    Looks fine at a quick glance. CEL shouldn't continue...
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  • Rjones
    Rjones Posts: 13 Forumite
    Thanks for the feedback, am i ok to submit as a final?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,373 Forumite
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    Yes go for it!
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  • Rjones
    Rjones Posts: 13 Forumite
    Thanks :-)
  • Rjones
    Rjones Posts: 13 Forumite
    Hi,

    I've tried to submit my full defense, after selecting the "I wish to defend ALL of this claim" but now am experiencing difficulty logging in online, which simply has a poor quality set up for reminder of login details etc.

    Any advice/help available?
  • Half_way
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    have you contacted the landowner/MA/the gym as outlined by Redx?
    if the landowner/gym is playing ball, then this will be a valuable defence point, so much so that you can claim for unreasonable behaviour from the ppc
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,373 Forumite
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    Rjones wrote: »
    Hi,

    I've tried to submit my full defense, after selecting the "I wish to defend ALL of this claim" but now am experiencing difficulty logging in online, which simply has a poor quality set up for reminder of login details etc.
    The advice in post #2 of the NEWBIES thread from bargepole tells you NOT to use MCOL for your defence.
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  • Rjones
    Rjones Posts: 13 Forumite
    Half_way wrote: »
    have you contacted the landowner/MA/the gym as outlined by Redx?
    if the landowner/gym is playing ball, then this will be a valuable defence point, so much so that you can claim for unreasonable behaviour from the ppc

    Visited them on Saturday and they told me that they can cancel it up to a certain point, but after a long period they aren't able to do anything else - showing them my paperwork they said they weren't able to help any further.

    So far, I have submitted the "Acknowledgement of claim" online, and also got my defense written up.
    Had a look at the stickied newbies post but could not find what to do next.

    Coupon-Mad, is the next stage to print our my defense and post it to them if I'm not meant to be submitting it through the MCOL?

    Many thanks
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,373 Forumite
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    Yes or email it to the CCBC at Northampton with the claim number and 'defence' (NOT defense') in the subject line.
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