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Landlord Selling - Viewing confusion

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  • AndyTails
    AndyTails Posts: 153 Forumite
    edited 12 October 2017 at 11:23AM
    Comms69 wrote: »
    HE can issue at any point, it's just two calendar months.


    No. He can issue at any point, but the notice must expire at the end of a period, and at least two months away. (Not sure "expire" is the right word, but I'm sure you get my meaning.)


    So, in the OP's case, anything issued before 31st October would expire 31st December (or 31st Jan, Feb, March etc. if the landlord worded it so); anything issued from 1st to 30th November would expire 31st Jan (or 28th Feb, 31st March etc.).


    Note that as the rental period is 1st to 31st, the notice would need to be issued by the 31st, and the day you would have to move out is the 31st. (Not as the OP suggests the 1st for both dates).
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229
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    AndyTails wrote: »
    No. He can issue at any point, but the notice must expire at the end of a period, and at least two months away. (Not sure "expire" is the right word, but I'm sure you get my meaning.) - No, that is not true, and hasn't been for many years now.


    So, in the OP's case, anything issued before 31st October would expire 31st December (or 31st Jan, Feb, March etc. if the landlord worded it so); anything issued from 1st to 30th November would expire 31st Jan (or 28th Feb, 31st March etc.).


    Seriously, if you're going to contradict something at least check it first.
  • saajan_12
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    There is no statutory 'law' either way on viewings.
    * You do have the right to quiet enjoyment of your home
    * The LL may (read your contract) have a contractual right to viewings.

    These can be balanced if there is reasonableness. ie 2 dancing girls coming monthly would impact your quiet enjoyment (litterally) so an unenforceable term. However access for specific purposes (e.g. inspections / tenant viewings / buyer viewings) at reasonable times (e.g. 2 days a week / only daytime hours) and with reasonable notice (e.g. 24 hours) would be reasonable.

    Whether the LL can practically enforce this if you change the locks is another story.. he may be able to sue for losses due to you breaching a reasonable term.
  • I'm not sure if anyone likes updates but I thought I'd give one.


    The landlord officially served my section 21 on 15th November and gave the date of 31st December as the date he would like me out. We spoke afterwards and he eventually agreed that he would be flexible and so would I on pretty much everything from leaving early, staying on, viewings and any problems arising. We just agreed to keep in touch and let the other know as things came up.


    Funnily enough 3 days later I found a place and he stuck true to his word and I'm moving out today with zero penalty. In the two weeks I've been planning the move I've had an estate agent in measuring and taking notes, an electrician to sort some work out and the landlord checking some bits but I've accommodated him as well.


    I know I'm lucky in that he's letting me leave early. Technically if I gave him a months notice it would have had to have been yesterday as my rent period runs from 1-31 and I couldn't have afforded two lots of rents this month plus deposit etc so I would have lost the lovely new place I'm moving into. I guess in the end we both ended up with what we wanted, but we were both polite and willing to compromise so it ends happily. Bit of a surprise to me if I'm honest!
  • G_M
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    edited 1 November 2017 at 11:45AM
    I'm not sure if anyone likes updates but I thought I'd give one.


    The landlord officially served my section 21 on 15th November and gave the date of 31st December as the date he would like me out.
    Errr.... it's only 1st November today......

    Did you mean 15th October?

    However I'm glad it worked out for you.

    Just to be safe, I would write to him requesting confirmation that you can surrender the tenancy early on xx date.

    Otherwise there is a remote chance he could use your premature departure (notice-wise) to deduct rent from your deposit. Sounds like he woouldn't, but for the sake of a letter, or email.....
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