Staff aren't paid for ongoing training.

MoreTeaDear · 19 April 2017 at 12:37PM

I started working for a small care-home a few months ago, specialising in special needs patients. The work is paid at minimum wage. There is a lot of on going training needed due to the special needs and caring element. The staff there aren't being paid for off site training, despite this being a requirement for the job and no incentive of a pay-rise. I thought it was a legal requirement for a business to pay for this, but I can't find any info when doing a Google search. Would someone please clarify this for me. Many thanks.

sangie595 · 19 April 2017 at 12:59PM

There's no legal right to be paid for training. There is, however, a legal right to not be paid less than the living wage. If this training counts as work time (I would define that as compulsory attendance) then not being paid will be a breach of the law.

On the other hand, raising this will be the fastest route to dismissal for "a comply unconnected reason". So you may want to consider how you manage this very carefully.

Is the training compulsory or not?

theoretica · 19 April 2017 at 7:16PM

Is any of it health and safety training? The HSE implies that should be paid for.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/simple-health-safety/provide.htm

ohreally · 19 April 2017 at 7:49PM

theoretica wrote: »

The HSE implies that should be paid for.

The training should take place during normal shift hours, it doesn't necessarily need to be paid, TOIL can be offered.

Sec 13, 2&3 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/3242/regulation/13/made

MoreTeaDear · 20 April 2017 at 10:57AM

Thank you for your reply. Yes the training is compulsory and is done in a training centre off site.

so_very_confused · 20 April 2017 at 12:06PM

It should be paid or TOIL. Check with your governing body as to what is required training. This should be covered.

sangie595 · 20 April 2017 at 1:12PM

MoreTeaDear wrote: »

Thank you for your reply. Yes the training is compulsory and is done in a training centre off site.

So that beings the wage below the living wage. You can raise the matter with the employer and ask to be paid. Or you can report it to the HMRC who will take it up with the employer. Either way, you need to be aware of the fact that the employer may simply get rid of their staff and employ more. If you can't afford to lose the job, then you need to wait until you have another one first.

Staff aren't paid for ongoing training.

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