WASPI Campaign .... State Pensions

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  • I bet Bindman's Solicitors think that their birthdays and Christmases have all come at once!

    It'll be interesting to see how their fundraising progresses,bearing in mind they're always whinging they're skint!

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10380633

    'Educational support services'

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  • Pennylane
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    It'll be interesting to see how their fundraising progresses,bearing in mind they're always whinging they're skint!

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10380633

    'Educational support services'

    :rotfl:

    I think that's very unfair. Some women genuinely are skint and will remain so. It's not whinging, its fact.

    For some women it's more a case of it being unfair.

    Anyway, every £ is a help and they've already raised £28,000. :T
  • jamesd
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    edited 19 October 2016 at 9:49AM
    Yes, it's definitely a case of it being unfair. But not to the women concerned, to the men and other women. Hopefully the government will continue to protect those who would be harmed by the campaign's objectives.

    Meanwhile in the Commons on 12 October 2016 the Prime Minister responded to a question:

    "The hon. Lady should know that transitional arrangements are already in place. We did make changes. We committed £1 billion to lessen the impact of the state pension age changes on those who were affected, so that no one would experience a change ​of more than 18 months. In fact, 81% of women’s state pension ages will increase by no more than 12 months, compared to the previous timetable.

    The Department for Work and Pensions informed people of the change in the state pension age after the changes that were made in 2011. Moreover, in the future women will gain from the new pension arrangements that are being introduced. Women’s pensions are a long-standing issue, but there will be better pension arrangements for them in the future because of the changes that the Government have made.
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    and on 17 October there was a debate on the topic in which the government in the form of The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Pensions, Richard Harrington responded:

    "Transitional arrangements are already in place. We committed £1 billion to lessen the impact of the state pension age changes on those who were affected, so that no one would experience a change of more than 18 months. In fact, 81% of women’s state pension ages will increase by no more than 12 months, compared with the previous timetable."

    "I can only reiterate to the hon. Lady what has been said many times before. The Government made transitional arrangements that came to more than £1 billion. ... The Government have made the transitional arrangements, and no further moves will be made to assist those women, all of whom will benefit in time from the significant increase in the new state pension."

    "Those women, or indeed those men, under the state pension age who are in the position of destitution the hon. Lady mentions are fully entitled to a comprehensive benefits system, of which I am sure she is aware."

    "As the hon. Gentleman is aware, I have said many times, as have other Ministers, that the transitional arrangements have cost more than £1 billion and there are arrangements in place for those people in destitution. It becomes a question of the public money that is spent. At the moment, the new state pensions are costing £89 billion a year, plus pension credit and everything else, and there is no further money available."

    "I find it strange that the hon. Gentleman and his party were in the House when the Pensions Act 2011 was passed, yet their 2015 manifesto made no mention whatsoever of negating it."

    Assorted other mentions but those seemed most interesting to me and anyone who wants to read the lot can easily search Hansard as I did.
  • bmm78
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    Pennylane wrote: »
    I think that's very unfair. Some women genuinely are skint and will remain so. It's not whinging, its fact.

    For some women it's more a case of it being unfair.

    Anyway, every £ is a help and they've already raised £28,000. :T

    What is that £50,000 going to buy? The only thing Waspi have committed to is paying for legal advice and “materials to help” with maladministration complaints (that people can do themselves anyway).

    If it takes £50,000 to cover baby steps, how much will the Full Monty cost?
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  • jamesd
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    edited 19 October 2016 at 10:08AM
    There was however this gem that shows the lamentably poor level of knowledge on this subject of many MPs, not least Barbara Keeley in this case:

    "When the Pensions Act 2011 was debated, Government Ministers promised transitional arrangements to ease that burden, but those have not materialised"

    Given that more than a billion Pounds of transitional relief arrived as a result of the discussions of the 2011 Act and that those increased discrimination against men and other women compared to the original she's a pretty poor representative for supporters of additional relief.
  • dunstonh
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    During PMQs, Anne McLaughlin, the SNP MP, says May recently turned 60 but wants to keep working. What will the government do for the women losing out because of the rapid increase in the state pension age.

    she said that women constituents have to work 6 years longer to get their state pension and that is unfair. Theresa May just mentioned that the transitional reliefs mean that it was a maximum 12 month wait that women have had.

    So, once again, the SNP are getting this wrong.
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    dunstonh wrote: »
    During PMQs, Anne McLaughlin, the SNP MP, says May recently turned 60 but wants to keep working. What will the government do for the women losing out because of the rapid increase in the state pension age.

    she said that women constituents have to work 6 years longer to get their state pension and that is unfair. Theresa May just mentioned that the transitional reliefs mean that it was a maximum 12 month wait that women have had.

    So, once again, the SNP are getting this wrong.

    It isn't a maximum of 12 months, the maximum is 18 months.
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  • Pollycat
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    mumps wrote: »
    It isn't a maximum of 12 months, the maximum is 18 months.

    Exactly!
    So is Teresa May as clueless as WASPI (2/3) are?
  • Pennylane
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    Wow! Over £40,000 now. :T
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    Pennylane wrote: »
    Wow! Over £40,000 now. :T
    Apologies if I've missed it, but what is the money intended for?
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