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    • Mr da
    • By Mr da 19th Mar 17, 3:01 PM
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    Recessed gas meter box
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    • 19th Mar 17, 3:01 PM
    Recessed gas meter box 19th Mar 17 at 3:01 PM
    Hi after some advice please. Somebody drove into my gas meter box and it has shattered . I've had a quote from the utility's company to disconnect are reconnect the supply on the same day.
    But I have to find someone to replace the gas box. I'm not sure how to go about it.
    Does it just fit back into the hole or will it somehow need fixing in place, I know your not meant to put any holes in the box apart from where the gas pipe goes in. Also need an electrician to do something with a wire apparently.
    Are there firms who do this or do I need to find separate tradesmen? Any help much appreciated as this is turning into an expensive nightmare.
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    • Plumber90
    • By Plumber90 19th Mar 17, 3:49 PM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 3:49 PM
    It's only an earth Cable the gas safe registered engineer will do that as well.
    • Mr da
    • By Mr da 19th Mar 17, 4:13 PM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 4:13 PM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 4:13 PM
    Thanks for the reply it says that it is the customers responsibility to contact a qualified electrician to install or relocate the main equipotetential bonding? Not a clue what that is, but does look like they won't be doing it ��
    Last edited by Mr da; 19-03-2017 at 4:50 PM.
    • southcoastrgi
    • By southcoastrgi 20th Mar 17, 9:59 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:59 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:59 PM
    If the electrical bonding is already there all you need is a Gas Safe reg'd person at the same time as your gas supplier
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
    • Risteard
    • By Risteard 20th Mar 17, 10:35 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 10:35 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 10:35 PM
    It's only an earth Cable the gas safe registered engineer will do that as well.
    Originally posted by Plumber90
    Actually it is NOT an Earth cable.

    Earthing and bonding are completely different things.
    • wealdroam
    • By wealdroam 20th Mar 17, 11:00 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 11:00 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 11:00 PM
    Actually it is NOT an Earth cable.

    Earthing and bonding are completely different things.
    Originally posted by Risteard
    Why have told us what it isn't?

    Would you care to add anything positive?
    • Risteard
    • By Risteard 20th Mar 17, 11:48 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 11:48 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 11:48 PM
    Why have told us what it isn't?

    Would you care to add anything positive?
    Originally posted by wealdroam
    Because I was correcting INCORRECT advice. This suggests that the person was not competent to give such advice.
    • Plumber90
    • By Plumber90 21st Mar 17, 4:54 AM
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    • 21st Mar 17, 4:54 AM
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    • 21st Mar 17, 4:54 AM
    Because I was correcting INCORRECT advice. This suggests that the person was not competent to give such advice.
    Originally posted by Risteard
    Talk about being pathetic, the op is more likely to understand earth cable than bonding hence why I wrote it.
    • Risteard
    • By Risteard 21st Mar 17, 9:43 AM
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    • 21st Mar 17, 9:43 AM
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    • 21st Mar 17, 9:43 AM
    Talk about being pathetic, the op is more likely to understand earth cable than bonding hence why I wrote it.
    Originally posted by Plumber90
    Clearly not as they aren't the same thing. So if it makes it mean something to him then certainly he/she cannot possibly be understanding it. It's also clear that you don't understand it. It's not being pathetic - it's about not being competent to give advice about a conductor which is there for safety reasons.
    • Mr da
    • By Mr da 21st Mar 17, 7:55 PM
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    Thanks from for the replies so far, but do I need a gas safe engineer or an electrician and how do you hold the box back in place when refitting new one into recess thanks
    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 21st Mar 17, 8:13 PM
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    As said if there is a bonding cable at the gas meter, will be a 10mm earth cable then all you will need is the gas safe guy and gas supplier. If there is no bonding then the gas supplier/ gas safe guy may say its needs fitting before they will work on it, in that case you will need a electrician to run the bonding cable.
    • southcoastrgi
    • By southcoastrgi 21st Mar 17, 9:04 PM
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    how do you hold the box back in place when refitting new one into recess thanks
    Originally posted by Mr da
    Its just cemented in
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
    • Mr.Generous
    • By Mr.Generous 21st Mar 17, 9:22 PM
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    I wonder who would say this when installing a socket ....

    "I am going to use a set of copper wires encased in a plastic insulator jacket, the energized conductor and the return neutral conductor will be 2.5mm cross section and the wire that defines electrical potential will be 1.5mm cross section."

    A normal guy would say "I'll use the 2.5 T&E" which would probably not be technically correct. But most people would get it.
    • wealdroam
    • By wealdroam 21st Mar 17, 10:18 PM
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    - it's about not being competent to give advice about a conductor which is there for safety reasons.
    Originally posted by Risteard
    As you haven't been able to give any advice to the original poster, can we assume you too are not competent to give advice?
    • Risteard
    • By Risteard 21st Mar 17, 10:25 PM
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    As you haven't been able to give any advice to the original poster, can we assume you too are not competent to give advice?
    Originally posted by wealdroam
    No you can't. I am completely competent. I don't however feel the need to tell the original poster anything - he clearly should have an Electrician do electrical work, and there is nothing further to add to that.
    • wealdroam
    • By wealdroam 21st Mar 17, 11:44 PM
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    No you can't. I am completely competent. I don't however feel the need to tell the original poster anything - he clearly should have an Electrician do electrical work, and there is nothing further to add to that.
    Originally posted by Risteard
    I really don't know why you joined this forum.

    It clearly wasn't to help anyone.
    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 22nd Mar 17, 7:38 AM
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    Whatever the wrongs and rights of the earth bonding, the insurance of the driver of the car that drove into the box should be paying for all this.

    It would be helpful if posters directed their comments to answering the question posed by OP, rather than bickering.

    New users can find it offputting when they pose a question and a lot of the responses are just regulars arguing amongst themselves.
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    • Mr da
    • By Mr da 22nd Mar 17, 7:07 PM
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    Thanks silvercar it's a long story but have found who did it and they are paying, just that I have been left to organise it all. It's just short of £500 to have the utilities disconnect the gas and replace the bent pipe, I've got to organise the electrician and someone to install the box and have got to get it right as the gas will be reconnected the same day and if I don't get it right it's £500 down the pan.
    Just need to know who I need here that day, and need to make sure I can get them in place before I book the disconnect and reconnect. Seem to be going round in circles.
    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 22nd Mar 17, 7:14 PM
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    Is the earth bonding already at you meter (within 600mm)
    • Mr da
    • By Mr da 22nd Mar 17, 7:26 PM
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    Yes Alex , it's just a case of taking the meter out replacing the pipe coming from the ground and putting a new recessed box in then the utilities company putting in the meter again and reconnecting the supply
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