Royal Mail Recorded Delivery Signed For Naughty Postman...............
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That would be for a charge of theft. Falsifying a company document to show that you have completed an item of work that you haven't done is an offence. Although I suspect most employers would deal with by it by dismissal rather than prosecution, that doesn't mean it isn't a crime.
They are of course depriving the sender of the service that they have paid for, namely a signature of a recipient (nb not necessarily the addressee) at the destination.
as an example what would this situation below be classed as?
A postie knocks on a door, no answer, then an old Lady calls down from upstairs, what is it postie?
"It's a recorded signed for letter". Lady says she has a job walking/getting down. Postie says - "shall I sign it and put it through? "
Lady - "Yes thats fine". So it goes through the letter box with the other post.0 -
What I like about this is not only are you still bitter about this incident but this is in fact an old thread where you've already previously referenced this story
Let it go!
I'd be bitter too and I wouldn't forget about something like that (that's outrageous!) I wonder if you'd take your own advice if something like that happened to you? I'm willing to guess not. Most people who play devil's advocate inadvertently work off the adage of, "Do as I say, not as I do."0 -
He saved you a trip down to the sorting office to collect it. Think I'd be grateful and keep quiet and don't get him into trouble over it.0
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There's times you can't win.
I was on a run once for a while were a customer got a R.D. every Saturday morning.I got to his house at 07-00 and woke him up.
He complained this is too early,so after a few weeks of this i decided to call back at 11-00 when i finished.
Youv'e guessed it,he complained that i was late.:cool:0 -
There's times you can't win.
I was on a run once for a while were a customer got a R.D. every Saturday morning.I got to his house at 07-00 and woke him up.
He complained this is too early,so after a few weeks of this i decided to call back at 11-00 when i finished.
Youv'e guessed it,he complained that i was late.:cool:
Can't win either way hey.
With the changes in RM these days alot of posties are only just getting out and delivering now at 11am. So he couldn't complain if early, only your late! or your £$^&$^! late!! lol0 -
The PO have entered into a contract - to have the recipient sign for the item, and their customer has paid for that.
It is supposed to be a proof that the item has been handed over in person.
If the postman signs it then they are falsifying that record and saying that an event occurred which did not; I'm not sure if it is illegal or tampering with the mail or anything, but it is definitely wrong.
At a minimum the PO is defrauding their customer by selling a service that they do not intend to deliver ('scuse the pun!).
We see many posts where things have gone missing, we get letters delivered to the wrong address.
So what happens of the postie signs it as delivered but it is the wrong address?
(I think the OP saying they might pretend it hadn't been received may have been a bit tongue in cheek!)0 -
The PO have entered into a contract - to have the [STRIKE]recipient [/STRIKE]sign for the item, and their customer has paid for that. someone at the address
It is supposed to be a proof that the item has been handed over in person. at the address
If the postman signs it then they are falsifying that record and saying that an event occurred which did not; I'm not sure if it is illegal or tampering with the mail or anything, but it is definitely wrong. its not illegal or tampering
At a minimum the PO is defrauding their customer by selling a service that they do not intend to deliver ('scuse the pun!).
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We see many posts where things have gone missing, we get letters delivered to the wrong address.
and?
So what happens of the postie signs it as delivered but it is the wrong address?
then they are an idiot for doing it
(I think the OP saying they might pretend it hadn't been received may have been a bit tongue in cheek!)
I have said many times its simply not worth the risk in RM these days.
however a quick scan of peoples replies in these threads shows many different views on it0 -
OK...
1. Yes, someone at the address who receives it. Not the postman momenarily adopting the persona of a would-be recipient.
2. Handed over in person to someone at the address.
3. They are falsifying a signature.
4. PO, RM, OK.
5. The point (perhaps well hidden) is that mistakes happen and things do get delivered to the wrong address, and therefore (idiot or not) skipping the handover will inevitably lead to errors.0 -
It sounds like in the original post the postie knew for sure it was the correct person/address as it says "received my post today and amongst it" so other post with same name on.
Is it possible the customer had previously said it was ok for the postie to sign for these? like months ago and perhaps the customer forgot about that.
the Postie may have walked upto the door with a PDA, knocked, typed the persons name in, then when no answer, put the recorded through and squiggled on the display to say delivered.0 -
OK...
1. Yes, someone at the address who receives it. Not the postman momenarily adopting the persona of a would-be recipient.
2. Handed over in person to someone at the address.
3. They are falsifying a signature.
4. PO, RM, OK.
5. The point (perhaps well hidden) is that mistakes happen and things do get delivered to the wrong address, and therefore (idiot or not) skipping the handover will inevitably lead to errors.
well it depends what they sign
if they sign their own name or DNS(did not sign) then they aren't falsifying the sig0
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