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Parking ticket in own bay No Permit - appeal rejected
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Hello, just to be sure i have not made any mistakes which i think i have after reading the newbie thread.
I received a windscreen ticket, and i was daft enough to log on their website paymypcn-uk and view evidence and reply with an appeal. I had to put my address in the appeal as I have received the debt collectors letter. This appeal was done before I found this site so now im a little worried i could have made a silly mistake which could later be used against me.
Firstly newbie thread states -
"consider waiting 3 weeks" - which was my mistake because i replied via their website within a day or two as i never had any problems like this before and i thought it would be an easy appeal as I do have a permit.
I have the ticket infront of me and the firm Parking Control Management is Accredited IPC Operator
In my appeal i said i have a permit bla bla so they know im the owner of the car, so could there be a problem that I have appealed day or two after finding ticket on windscreen and not waiting three weeks?
I have now found an appeal draft for IPC members which I did not use as i put my own text together which was another mistake.
Do I still reply to debt collectors with the template from newbie thread even though it says please note - it is to late to appeal the original parking ticket. in line with industry standards the next available level of dispute resolution would be the county court. OR do i send another appeal to the same website that left the windscreen ticket?? the text from the newbie thread sound 10x professional from what I have written.
If it is to late to send them the professional text by forum members and my appeal is to childish (im only 21) is it better to pay or still ignore?
I have called the estate number asking for help they said I should contact Hallmark Reading as they employ these people to control parking in the area, if i contact them should it be my phone or email to ask if they can cancel this for me as i do have a permit i have lived in the area for a year and extended contract for another year and as mentioned before there is nothing of permits in my contract.
I know it says read about debt collector letters but just to make you aware on the postal letter I have received from the it says they are also IPC and CSA
on the back of the letter they have written also - for free confidential debt advice you can contact citizen advice, and a few different services is there anything to worry about?>
/I have seen the draft letters to debt collectors, should i reply to them ? they are called - tracerecovery.co.uk or should i ignore?
I have tried searching for info about this company and there is nothing i can find
my questions is - PAY because you are daft and you messed up as the steps were not followed from newbie thread
or its never to late as you can fix the mistakes you have made at the beginning,
Will the management company say it is to late for them to do anything as it has been taken to a debt collectors company or can they still help??
please help im still young and stupid and sometimes it is difficult to understand some points
im very worried as i have a child and paying large amounts of cash later is not something i want as i would prefer to spend money on my child.
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thanks Coupon for your reply i have just sent another post now and was not aware that you have also replied to my previous post (thought you d be angry that another person skipped the newbie thread), thanks for your help it helps me unstress!
And you are right I do watch Cant Pay We Will Take it away!
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Watch it more closely next time, they are High Court bailiffs with a writ. Not 'debt collectors'.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Hello, just to be sure i have not made any mistakes which i think i have after reading the newbie thread.
I received a windscreen ticket, and i was daft enough to log on their website paymypcn-uk and view evidence and reply with an appeal. I had to put my address in the appeal as I have received the debt collectors letter. This appeal was done before I found this site so now im a little worried i could have made a silly mistake which could later be used against me.
Firstly newbie thread states -
"consider waiting 3 weeks" - which was my mistake because i replied via their website within a day or two as i never had any problems like this before and i thought it would be an easy appeal as I do have a permit.
I have the ticket infront of me and the firm Parking Control Management is Accredited IPC Operator
In my appeal i said i have a permit bla bla so they know im the owner of the car, so could there be a problem that I have appealed day or two after finding ticket on windscreen and not waiting three weeks?
I have now found an appeal draft for IPC members which I did not use as i put my own text together which was another mistake.
Do I still reply to debt collectors with the template from newbie thread even though it says please note - it is to late to appeal the original parking ticket. in line with industry standards the next available level of dispute resolution would be the county court. OR do i send another appeal to the same website that left the windscreen ticket?? the text from the newbie thread sound 10x professional from what I have written.
If it is to late to send them the professional text by forum members and my appeal is to childish (im only 21) is it better to pay or still ignore?
I have called the estate number asking for help they said I should contact Hallmark Reading as they employ these people to control parking in the area, if i contact them should it be my phone or email to ask if they can cancel this for me as i do have a permit i have lived in the area for a year and extended contract for another year and as mentioned before there is nothing of permits in my contract.
I know it says read about debt collector letters but just to make you aware on the postal letter I have received from the it says they are also IPC and CSA
on the back of the letter they have written also - for free confidential debt advice you can contact citizen advice, and a few different services is there anything to worry about?>
/I have seen the draft letters to debt collectors, should i reply to them ? they are called - tracerecovery.co.uk or should i ignore?
I have tried searching for info about this company and there is nothing i can find
my questions is - PAY because you are daft and you messed up as the steps were not followed from newbie thread
or its never to late as you can fix the mistakes you have made at the beginning,
Will the management company say it is to late for them to do anything as it has been taken to a debt collectors company or can they still help??
please help im still young and stupid and sometimes it is difficult to understand some points
im very worried as i have a child and paying large amounts of cash later is not something i want as i would prefer to spend money on my child.
... and breathe.
Appealing a windscreen ticket early is not the best thing to do, buy it is not fatal.
It doesn't matter if the PPC know who the owner/keeper is, they can find that info out by paying the DVLA 2.50. Revealing who was driving is not a good idea, but again all is not lost if that is what you have done.
If you haven't given away the driver's details, then by appealing the windscreen ticket, you may never get a NTK, which then works in your favour.
Ignore debt collectors. It's that simple. I won't say it again.
Don't contact CAB. They know naff all about private parking companies.
Why come to a money saving website and ask if you should pay? I shall not lower myself to answer that question.
The landowner can get this cancelled. They are responsible for any and all sub contractors on their land.
You do not need to display a permit because it is not a requirement of your lease.
Have I missed anything?I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.
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Totally agree, do not ask the CAB, they have no clue.Don't contact CAB. They know naff all about private parking companies.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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I have called the estate number asking for help they said I should contact Hallmark Reading as they employ these people to control parking in the area, if i contact them should it be my phone or email to ask if they can cancel this for me as i do have a permit i have lived in the area for a year and extended contract for another year and as mentioned before there is nothing of permits in my contract.
As above plus you should actually follow your own suggestion and write. Whether they agree or not is not material as you letter shows you engaged early on to point out your rights ion the matter. Get proof of posting.
The Deep's suggestion could also be added though the word "offence" may be OTT as it would be a breach of contract and not an "offence".As your AST does not mention a permit you should complain to your landlord that the PPC/MA is interfering with your right to "quiet enjoyment" of your property, a possible offence under The Landlord and Tenant Acts.0 -
the word "offence" may be OTT as it would be a breach of contract and not an "offence".
The word is apposite, the Act is not part of the Law of contractYou never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
the word "offence" may be OTT as it would be a breach of contract and not an "offence".
The word is apposite, the Act is not part of the Law of contract
You may be right but it might help if the information was a bit narrower that the "Acts". Here is the 1985 Act. I can see 21 mentions of "offence". Do any of these apply to the situation?
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http://www.tracerecovery.co.uk/our-services/
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