Any positive stories changing from DLA to PIP?
Comments
-
The Assessors Guide at https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/547146/pip-assessment-guide.pdf
makes it clear that someone who NEEDS a hearing aid could be expected to score 2 points
B Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to speak or hear. 2 points
For example: may apply to claimants who require a hearing aid or an electro larynx.
If the claimant is not using a prescribed hearing aid, ask why. If there is a good medical reason such as chronic ear infection, function without the aid should be assessed. If there is not a good reason, expected function with the aid should be assessed.
and
When considering whether a claimant requires an aid or appliance, HPs should distinguish between:
- an aid or appliance that a claimant must use or could reasonably be expected to use, in order to carry out the activity safely, reliably, repeatedly and in a timely manner; and
- an aid or appliance that a claimant may be using or wish to use because it makes it easier to carry out the activity safely, reliably, repeatedly and in a timely manner.
Descriptor advice in favour of an aid or appliance should only be given in the former case. An aid or appliance is not required in the latter.
Where a claimant chooses not to use an aid or appliance that he or she could reasonably be expected
to use and would enable them to carry out
the activity without assistance, they should be assessed as needing an aid or appliance rather than a higher level of support.
0 -
rockingbilly wrote: »The simple answer for me is NO.
I was assessed by the NHS and supplied with two hearing aids a year ago. My hearing was severely restricted in both ears.
At best I would/should have had points for the aids but didn't. And after doing some reading up on this I realised that as I now have aids it is assessed that I no longer have any difficulties with hearing.
Much like medication, if you are on pain relief medication it is deemed that pain will no longer be a barrier. Well that is what I have been told, be it right or wrong I don't know.
Suffice it to say that I did have DLA (High Mobility/Middle Care) but on transfer to PIP I got nothing.
Get your stories right Andy, in fact you omitted to mention at all that you have hearing aids, funnily enough you only remembered you have hearing aids after reading a thread about it on here.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=72139604&postcount=30
Now can anyone joining this thread from Martin's email please read the first post and let us know your positive experience and ignore this posters fairy tales.Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama
0 -
I was NOT querying your hearing impairment, I do not query ANY of your illnesses, what I was pointing out to posters, posters who do not know you, is that you give total !!!!!!!! answers, you are a very stupid man.
You pointed out that you did not get any points even though you wear hearing aids, giving the impression that that is the reason you did not get any points, when really you should be saying that you did not get any points because you made a balls up of the form, you are a dangerous poster.
The form was a mess, I see that now after reading the contents. But whether it was a mess or not the evidence from the hospital diagnosing hearing loss and the requirement to need to use two hearing aids to get my hearing back to normal was sent with the form! Surely it is not too much to ask for the assessor to look at the evidence even if I didn't mention it on the form.
And the reason I didn't mention it was because I believed that having now got my hearing back, having the aids didn't matter.0 -
Get your stories right Andy, in fact you omitted to mention at all that you have hearing aids, funnily enough you only remembered you have hearing aids after reading a thread about it on here.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=72139604&postcount=30
Now can anyone joining this thread from Martin's email please read the first post and let us know your positive experience and ignore this posters fairy tales.
Correct, it didn't dawn on me what the implications were at the time that I would get 2 points just by having them.0 -
Rockingbilly - I thought you'd agreed to stop posting giving advice? It's very well established that your experience was completely different to every one else and so posting only serves to at best scare people, at worse cause them to give up or make mistakes in their own claim.
By continuing to post you're causing a lot of damage.Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.0 -
Rockingbilly - I thought you'd agreed to stop posting giving advice? It's very well established that your experience was completely different to every one else and so posting only serves to at best scare people, at worse cause them to give up or make mistakes in their own claim.
By continuing to post you're causing a lot of damage.
Absolutely
And the sad thing is that poor old rockingbilly's health problems have clearly led him to have a false memory of his PIP claim and the"alleged" completion of the form by DWP
The much more likely scenario is that he completed it himself - has got confused and now believes that DWP did it for him - so it's all their fault0 -
With regards to a home visit, my daughter is able-bodied, works full time but has hearing impairment. She is having a home visit next week and no, she never requested it, it was arranged by DWP and the date was sent to her in a letter.
Has anyone else had success in getting PIPs for deafness ?
legggyloo
most of my PIP claim was for a different disability/illness however 8 of the daily living points awarded at the face to face assessment were for my deafness. I've no hearing (post lingually so my speech is reasonable), don't wear hearing aids and rely on lip reading/body language/context/other cues
I was quite suprised how many points I scored on that as I'd made it clear to the assessor that I manage, I work, I teach, I socialise within the limits of my other brokenesses, and i spent over an hour talking with her. However she quite rightly pointed out that if she turned her back or covered her mouth, i have no idea she's talking let alone what's being said.0 -
Rockingbilly - I thought you'd agreed to stop posting giving advice? It's very well established that your experience was completely different to every one else and so posting only serves to at best scare people, at worse cause them to give up or make mistakes in their own claim.
By continuing to post you're causing a lot of damage.
The question was asked and I gave info of what happened to my PIP claim for deafness. That is not giving advice, it's giving what happened to me as a fact.0 -
Absolutely
And the sad thing is that poor old rockingbilly's health problems have clearly led him to have a false memory of his PIP claim and the"alleged" completion of the form by DWP
The much more likely scenario is that he completed it himself - has got confused and now believes that DWP did it for him - so it's all their fault
Now who's being silly?
It should be sufficient for you to accept what happened to my PIP claim. I do not have any 'false' memories about the Jobcentre filling in the form for me - it happened.
Well I couldn't have done any worse if I had have filled it in?
Personally I don't care what you think happened. I have given true facts and you either call me a liar or not.0 -
But how do you know what happened for sure Rockingbilly
By your own omission in 2014 you were diagnosed with a condition that causes confusion and dementia. That was three years ago so likely it can only have got worse. It may well be that you "believe' that the DWP completed the form for you but didn't. Who knows? You can't because of your illness. No-one else can because they know of your diagnosis and the very strong likelihood that what you think happened didn't
Sad. But it is very important that posters on MSE looking for advice and support are aware that your illness will, for sure, impact on the veracity of anything you say0
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 343.1K Banking & Borrowing
- 250.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 449.7K Spending & Discounts
- 235.2K Work, Benefits & Business
- 607.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 173K Life & Family
- 247.8K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 15.9K Discuss & Feedback
- 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards