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    • scooter74
    • By scooter74 31st Jan 11, 9:22 PM
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    47kg Propane Calor Gas Prices - What are you paying?
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    • 31st Jan 11, 9:22 PM
    47kg Propane Calor Gas Prices - What are you paying? 31st Jan 11 at 9:22 PM
    I would like to start a website which tracks bottled 47kg gas prices across the country in order to fight for the energy minister to regulate propane gas prices and remove the VAT from it. There are no websites which compare prices. I live in a rural area and have no real alternative Since I moved in in 2006, my 47kg gas price has risen from £26 to, today £56.50. Five years 102%. Since many people who live in rural areas are already paying the most for energy and have disproportionately low incomes I think a campaign on this is long overdue.

    Please post your location and price you are paying. If we all do it we can make a case to the government for regulation or some kind of subsidy which puts propane on a par with mains gas. Sadly overdue I think.

    So, I'll start Basildon, Essex: £56.50
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    • Stockist
    • By Stockist 24th Oct 17, 8:24 PM
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    Stockist
    47 Kg Prices
    I have experience of both Calor & Flogas supplying us as a retailer. Both companies treat you like an idiot, which I find unbelievably irritating, some how or other they think that the average person cannot count.


    How does a 47kg cylinder end up costing around £1.35-1.40 a kg when you could buy the same gas from a petrol forecourt for £0.85 -90 kg?


    They will come up with a myriad of different excuses why prices have to rise - Calor are about to put on an eye watering 9p/kg price hike on and yet, when it suits them they can offer cylinders at incredibly low prices. My advice to buyers is to shop around and try to find retailers that Flogas and Calor are having a price war over the territory that they cover.


    I have found suppliers in Wales that Flogas was supplying at a rate that enabled the Welsh retailer to sell 47's at £10.00 a cylinder cheaper than they would sell to us wholesale. I can assure you that there are many instances around the country where both companies lock antlers over a territory and they chop their prices to silly figures in a show of macho salesmanship.


    The desperately sad thing is that whilst Flogas and Calor do this ridiculous posturing over who is is more prepared to chop their prices to win a stockist, they lie to their loyal customer over how much they have to charge to make a profit. Lets not kid ourselves, the current price increases might have a root in the Platts forward projected prices for LPG on the world market but the greater part of the increase is all about profit and bonuses.


    I just wish I had had the good fortune to have invented a product that has not changed in 60 years i.e. LPG in gas cylinders, and then had the audacity to continually claim it was a difficult business. Boys, if you cannot get it right in 60 years and make a profit AND reduce your costs to give your customers a fair price then you ought to be held to account.
    • venison
    • By venison 26th Oct 17, 10:30 PM
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    Flogas back to £49.91 here in derbyshire
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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 27th Oct 17, 8:10 AM
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    I'm paying £69 for Calor up here!
    • fewkeste
    • By fewkeste 27th Oct 17, 10:06 PM
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    fewkeste
    Flogas back to £49.91 here in derbyshire
    Originally posted by venison
    Is that including VAT?
    • venison
    • By venison 30th Oct 17, 10:14 PM
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    Is that including VAT?
    Originally posted by fewkeste
    yes and delivery,usually within 48 hours.
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    • fewkeste
    • By fewkeste 31st Oct 17, 1:55 PM
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    Supplier details?
    yes and delivery,usually within 48 hours.
    Originally posted by venison
    Is that from Flogas direct or a Flogas retailer in Derbyshire? If so who?
    • alarge
    • By alarge 16th Nov 17, 1:44 PM
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    alarge
    Needed to get a couple of cylinders whilst we wait for tank install. Woldlink was £59 inc VAT and delivered each.
    • goforgold58
    • By goforgold58 16th Nov 17, 3:43 PM
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    goforgold58
    I have experience of both Calor & Flogas supplying us as a retailer. Both companies treat you like an idiot, which I find unbelievably irritating, some how or other they think that the average person cannot count.


    How does a 47kg cylinder end up costing around £1.35-1.40 a kg when you could buy the same gas from a petrol forecourt for £0.85 -90 kg?


    They will come up with a myriad of different excuses why prices have to rise - Calor are about to put on an eye watering 9p/kg price hike on and yet, when it suits them they can offer cylinders at incredibly low prices. My advice to buyers is to shop around and try to find retailers that Flogas and Calor are having a price war over the territory that they cover.


    I have found suppliers in Wales that Flogas was supplying at a rate that enabled the Welsh retailer to sell 47's at £10.00 a cylinder cheaper than they would sell to us wholesale. I can assure you that there are many instances around the country where both companies lock antlers over a territory and they chop their prices to silly figures in a show of macho salesmanship.


    The desperately sad thing is that whilst Flogas and Calor do this ridiculous posturing over who is is more prepared to chop their prices to win a stockist, they lie to their loyal customer over how much they have to charge to make a profit. Lets not kid ourselves, the current price increases might have a root in the Platts forward projected prices for LPG on the world market but the greater part of the increase is all about profit and bonuses.


    I just wish I had had the good fortune to have invented a product that has not changed in 60 years i.e. LPG in gas cylinders, and then had the audacity to continually claim it was a difficult business. Boys, if you cannot get it right in 60 years and make a profit AND reduce your costs to give your customers a fair price then you ought to be held to account.
    Originally posted by Stockist

    How do I find out who Flogas and Calor Gas are having a price war, within our area please? We use Flogas at the moment, but the Contract is up soon. Flogas supply 47kg cylinders to 51 homes and so we do get a better price but always need to keep them on their toes.
    • venison
    • By venison 27th Nov 17, 10:45 PM
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    Is that including VAT?
    Originally posted by fewkeste
    it was its now £52
    Is that from Flogas direct or a Flogas retailer in Derbyshire? If so who?
    Originally posted by fewkeste
    direct
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    • tikplas
    • By tikplas 12th Dec 17, 9:24 PM
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    i bought an adaptor on ebay for the gas bottle and fill it with lpg from a local gas station - the cost for 6.5kg from calor is 23 quid from gas station 7 quid. it is the same stuff and its as easy as pie.
    lpg weighs 1/2 kilo per litre - so 11 litres (allow 10% space) i have had no problems in 3 years
    • Trentenders
    • By Trentenders 13th Dec 17, 8:36 PM
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    Flogas (direct) is still £52.50 incl. VAT and delivery for 47kg bottles. Delivery was advised as being 3-4 working days.
    • venison
    • By venison 18th Dec 17, 10:38 PM
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    Our price on flo gas has gone back to 49.96 again delivered.
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    • taxsaver
    • By taxsaver 21st Dec 17, 5:55 PM
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    47kg in north Cambridgeshire @ £43, seems very fair compared to what many/most others are posting!
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    • rogcal
    • By rogcal 24th Dec 17, 11:59 AM
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    "47kg in north Cambridgeshire @ £43,"
    And where would that be Taxsaver?

    I'm not far from the North Cambs border and that price would make the trip worthwhile.
    • Trentenders
    • By Trentenders 24th Dec 17, 12:20 PM
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    Tall Trees Leisure in Wisbech(?)
    • broguey
    • By broguey 7th Jan 18, 9:16 PM
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    Ayrshire Scotland, we are currently paying £48.36 for a 47kg cylinder, price has increased twice since October, there is no mains gas in our hamlet so we don't have much choice!! A cylinder lasts about 7 days in this very cold spell which seems to be going on forever, we don't have the heating on all the time but we have to be warm! Interesting to hear how others are managing and the different costs around tthe country.
    • fewkeste
    • By fewkeste 8th Jan 18, 12:09 AM
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    fewkeste
    They charge what they think they can get away with
    Interesting to hear how others are managing and the different costs around tthe country.
    Originally posted by broguey
    Yes it's worrying that prices vary so much. I think they charge what they think they can get away with. I think the supply of LPG both bottled and bulk is ripe for an investigation by the relevant government agency responsible for ensuring true free market competition occurs (which I don't think it does at present.) I think it's time for a word with the CMA to see what they make of it.
    Last edited by fewkeste; 08-01-2018 at 12:59 AM.
    • frugalstephen
    • By frugalstephen 10th Jan 18, 9:18 PM
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    I think it's time for a word with the CMA to see what they make of it.
    Originally posted by fewkeste
    I reported this issue several years ago when the price in Northern Ireland was more than 50% more expensive than the mainland. A price differential that could noway be explained by transportation! They sent me a nice f*** off letter, and I haven't been bothered to do anything since. Maybe you'll have more luck?
    • fewkeste
    • By fewkeste 10th Jan 18, 9:42 PM
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    fewkeste
    Thanks for the heads up
    I reported this issue several years ago when the price in Northern Ireland was more than 50% more expensive than the mainland. A price differential that could noway be explained by transportation! They sent me a nice f*** off letter, and I haven't been bothered to do anything since. Maybe you'll have more luck?
    Originally posted by frugalstephen
    Thanks for alerting me to this. I did a search for LPG on the CMA website for any documents referring to LPG - absolutely nothing found!
    • evoman10
    • By evoman10 15th Jan 18, 11:08 AM
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    propane prices
    just paid £130 odd for 2 bottles here in Gloucester, from Flogas, disgusting price but what do you do, need it. Only lived here a year so new to the area and don't know any other places to get it. Have already used 4 since 17th December because of the weather. No wonder the elderly go cold at these prices, no alternative in my village though.
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