SEN child not responsible for their actions
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DoubleDoors wrote: »Well, the trouble is, OP's child can't play the special needs card and so would be punished for hitting a 'poor disabled boy', while the other smug little sod can just do as he wants.
Happens in adult life, too, of course. Someone retaliates and it's them who gets put up on charges.
Life ain't fair.
The fact that when it happens that way it makes national news should be an indication that 99.999% of the time self defence is treated just as that, self defence.0 -
I'm bewildered too!! The only consequence that this child will have for their actions is that they will put on "classroom exchange" - be sent to a different class for the rest of the day (lucky different class!!) Its a very small school with one class per year group.
They are in the process of being assessed for an ECHP - Education, Care and Health Plan - being statemented - I believe it used to be called - and (fingers crossed!) will receive 1 to 1 care whilst in school i.e their own designated Teaching Assistant. Its all a whole load of if's ands & but's right now and it is frustrating. Apologies for the light sarcasm that's peppered my reply...just so frustrated with this situation :-(
Thank you for all your replies...I will be taking this further but I don't want to enter into a one woman crusade to get this child excluded / removed from my DS's school.
Unlikely I'm afraid, children in SEND schools in the UK very rarely meet the 10 scale to receive one to one support, so there is no chance in a mainstream school, especially as SENA will claim they have coped without an LSA.
EHCPs are very hard to get now as well, our son is tube fed, has a global learning delay (he is 5, cognitively he is around 18months), he is doubly incontinent, he is now mobile so a five year old with the abilities of a 18 month old, in other words in a huge liability. He was unable to gain an EHCP, upon appeal he was granted a small amount of top up funding of £3000 per year, however the council deduct this from money gained from him being K-code, so in reality his topup funding was only £1000. His EP observed without support as is usual during observations, he attempted to eat a girls hair, he did successfully eat a few handfuls of sand (yummy) and then proceeded to roll around on the floor while squealing.
SENA are also no longer approving EHCPs of less than 20 hours per week which is very frustrating.
The whole system is getting worse and worse! Thankfully he is now somewhere that has a different structure so his care needs are met, which is better for everyone.0 -
A very difficult situation. If his needs are great, mental health issues he should be in a specialist school that can cater for him. When I was teaching we had a child in reception who was a real nightmare. He would destroy the classroom, bite the adults, bad enough for them to have a tetanus injection! When he started trashing the classroom the rest of the class had to be removed for their own safety. At one stage they made a special area ( a bit like a padded cell) in a small room off the classroom. If he was in there he ran around naked and I can't even tell you what he was doing there. He was assessed by everybody in authority , and we are talking 20 years ago, so things were very different. It was a horrible situation for everyone, the poor children in the class, were really traumatised by his behaviour.
He was eventually moved to a very specialist school and I have heard now in his 20's he is in a secure mental health unit. How he was ever in mainstream school is still a mystery. Trouble was once he was there, having to jump through all the hoops to get him somewhere else was very time consuming. I believe today it is even more difficult.0 -
Unlikely I'm afraid, children in SEND schools in the UK very rarely meet the 10 scale to receive one to one support, so there is no chance in a mainstream school, especially as SENA will claim they have coped without an LSA.
EHCPs are very hard to get now as well, our son is tube fed, has a global learning delay (he is 5, cognitively he is around 18months), he is doubly incontinent, he is now mobile so a five year old with the abilities of a 18 month old, in other words in a huge liability. He was unable to gain an EHCP, upon appeal he was granted a small amount of top up funding of £3000 per year, however the council deduct this from money gained from him being K-code, so in reality his topup funding was only £1000. His EP observed without support as is usual during observations, he attempted to eat a girls hair, he did successfully eat a few handfuls of sand (yummy) and then proceeded to roll around on the floor while squealing.
SENA are also no longer approving EHCPs of less than 20 hours per week which is very frustrating.
The whole system is getting worse and worse! Thankfully he is now somewhere that has a different structure so his care needs are met, which is better for everyone.
I thought you weren't living in the UK any more? :think:0 -
DoubleDoors wrote: »I thought you weren't living in the UK any more? :think:
Sorry, I didn't realise when you left the UK your entire career of SEND and memories/experiences in the UK are deleted from your brain.
My bad.
I'll have this rectified as soon as possible.0 -
Have you been told everything verbally?
Put it in writing via email to the head stating how disapointed you are how this situation is being handled,
Say that you being told (by whom) that the child is not responible for thier actions does not make it ok that they can phycially hurt your child, list what has happend and when. Keep emotion out of it and stick to facts, it may well be that the child can't be responsilble for thier actions but that is not your problem the school need to make sure they have the facilities to accomadate the child.
You need to include the words that this is a formal complaint and you want to know how they intend to make sure your child is kept safe.
If you dont get a satifactory response take it to the governers but you have to give the school chance to sort first (in writing).
How old is your child?0 -
The school is legally bound to ensure the safety of all pupils, if this is a common occurrence the pupil should have a SEN TA to supervise him or her.
On a personal level, I'd tell my son to hit him back twice as hard next time and be done with it.
School should have acted after the first incident.
Thank goodness the OP is mature enough to go through the correct channels and hopefully ignore your 'advice'.
It's correct that fewer and fewer 'statements' are being issued and many children kept in mainstream education when they need a special placement. It's done in the name of inclusion but the money doesn't follow the pupil. Special schools are double funded so have really small classes and heaps of adults.
I think the school concerned will welcome OP'S intervention. It will give leverage to making proper provision for the child. In my experience Primary schools, particularly at the lower end are treated unfairly. They have to do all they can to divert resources, get assessments, reports, evidence etc together while other pupils suffer then eventually the child is excluded and is found alternative provision. Often it can take up to 7 years to get to this point.
Hopefully OP's intervention will help speed up the process.0 -
Sorry, I didn't realise when you left the UK your entire career of SEND and memories/experiences in the UK are deleted from your brain.
My bad.
I'll have this rectified as soon as possible.
No need to get shirty
Just saying you no longer live here, so your experiences may be a little out of date. How is he adapting to life in Sweden, are you getting adequate care for him over there?
Hope your wife's settling in ok, too, as she was treated so badly here you decided to emigrate.0 -
iammumtoone wrote: »Have you been told everything verbally?
I'm wondering that. Sounds like they're fobbing her off.0 -
............I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?0
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