What speed limit applies to me?

jmroberts314
jmroberts314 Posts: 8 Forumite
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Hi All,

Wonder if anyone can help. I recently (hired, but that doesn't matter), a Ford Tourneo vehicle, which has 9 seats (8 passenger, 1 driver). I have been sent a Notice of Intended Prosecution for driving at 68mph in a 70mph zone. Does anyone know if the lower speed limit (60) applies to this vehicle? I was under the impression that 8 passenger seats plus a driver = car speed limits?

Thanks! :)
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  • Aylesbury_Duck
    Aylesbury_Duck Posts: 13,965 Forumite
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    jmroberts314 wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Wonder if anyone can help. I recently (hired, but that doesn't matter), a Ford Tourneo vehicle, which has 9 seats (8 passenger, 1 driver). I have been sent a Notice of Intended Prosecution for driving at 68mph in a 70mph zone. Does anyone know if the lower speed limit (60) applies to this vehicle? I was under the impression that 8 passenger seats plus a driver = car speed limits?

    Thanks! :)
    It depends on how it is classified on the V5, I think.
  • forgotmyname
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    A van which is not a car derived van = 60mph.

    Bus, Coach Minibus = 60mph.


    If under 2 tons it maybe classed as a car derived van, but a 9 seat minibus is likely to exceed 2 tons.
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  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,508 Forumite
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    edited 15 June 2017 at 7:38PM
    Passenger vehicle, not more than 8 passenger seats, unladen weight under 3.05 tonnes. Motorway = 70, Dual Carriageway = 70, Other Road = 60.

    Sch.6, Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.
  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,549 Forumite
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    Things have changed a LOT since 1984 though.
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  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,508 Forumite
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    forgotmyname wrote: »
    Things have changed a LOT since 1984 though.

    But not speed limits for vehicles of certain classes.
  • Paradigm
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    It's a car & subject to car speed limits, a minibus has to have 9-16 passenger seats.
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  • Iceweasel
    Iceweasel Posts: 4,706 Forumite
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    Paradigm wrote: »
    It's a car & subject to car speed limits, a minibus has to have 9-16 passenger seats.

    I think that the legal definition of a minibus is a vehicle with 8 to 16 passenger seats.

    More than 17 seats is legally a coach/bus.

    So the OP's 9-seater Tourneo is legally a minibus not a car.

    That means a 50mph speed limit on a single carriageway, 60mph on a dual-carriageway with 70mph only on a motorway.

    Plus of course all the complications of driving licence entitlement - when you passed a car test etc.

    Loads of people are driving 9-seaters with no idea that they are classed as a minibus with lower speed limits and special licence requirements.
  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,508 Forumite
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    edited 15 June 2017 at 9:24PM
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    Iceweasel wrote: »
    I think that the legal definition of a minibus is a vehicle with 8 to 16 passenger seats.

    More than 17 seats is legally a coach/bus.

    So the Op's 9-seater Tourneo is a minibus not a car.

    That means a 50mph speed limit on a single carriageway, 60mph on a dual-carriageway with 70mph only on a motorway.

    Plus of course all the complications of driving licence entitlement - when you passed a car test etc.

    Loads of people are driving 9-seaters with no idea that they are classed as a minibus with lower speed limits and special licence requirements.

    A Tourneo = 8 passenger seats + driver, so the same as a car.
  • Iceweasel
    Iceweasel Posts: 4,706 Forumite
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    Rover_Driver wrote: »
    A Tourneo = 8 passenger seats + driver, so the same as a car.

    A Tourneo = 8 passenger seats + driver, so it's a minibus.
  • Paradigm
    Paradigm Posts: 3,613 Forumite
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    Iceweasel wrote: »
    A Tourneo = 8 passenger seats + driver, so it's a minibus.


    No! 9-16 passenger seats is classed as a minibus anything less than 9 passengers is a car. Anything more than 16 passengers is a bus/coach.


    The OPs Tourneo is a car.
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