Your browser isn't supported
It looks like you're using an old web browser. To get the most out of the site and to ensure guides display correctly, we suggest upgrading your browser now. Download the latest:

Welcome to the MSE Forums

We're home to a fantastic community of MoneySavers but anyone can post. Please exercise caution & report spam, illegal, offensive or libellous posts/messages: click "report" or email forumteam@.

Search
  • FIRST POST
    • M271
    • By M271 8th Aug 17, 6:48 PM
    • 205Posts
    • 78Thanks
    M271
    Next MSE Collective Switch Coming to an End
    • #1
    • 8th Aug 17, 6:48 PM
    Next MSE Collective Switch Coming to an End 8th Aug 17 at 6:48 PM
    I am currently on the MSE Collective Switch with BG which comes to an end on 3rd October. Will a another collective switch be launched before then (statement aimed at MSE reps) or should I just start looking at the best deals around 4 to 5 weeks before my deal comes to an end?
Page 3
    • PaulW2246
    • By PaulW2246 23rd Aug 17, 8:26 AM
    • 2 Posts
    • 0 Thanks
    PaulW2246
    Collective Switch coming to an End
    "We’re hoping to run another collective switch later this year, but as yet we’re not able to confirm dates. The energy market has been challenging in recent months, so there’s no guarantee that we’ll be successful.

    Although we’ll always aim to beat it, the cheapest deal available today may not be available by the time we next hold a collective. You can either fix and lock in your prices now to be safe, or hold on to see if we can negotiate a better deal."

    Thanks,
    MSE Laura

    In other words, 'you're on your own now'. Thanks a bundle.
    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 23rd Aug 17, 9:02 AM
    • 27,031 Posts
    • 13,157 Thanks
    Cardew

    In other words, 'you're on your own now'. Thanks a bundle.
    Originally posted by PaulW2246
    That is a rather strange comment IMO.
    MSE, and in particular their Energy club, exist to make a profit. They managed to negotiate a couple of very good 'collective deals' from which we benefited and MSE made money.

    If they could negotiate another collective deal, they would make more money; but apparently they are having difficulty getting an agreement with any of the various energy companies - who also exist to make a profit.

    So please explain in more detail your criticism of MSE.


    Like many others, my collective switch deal is coming to an end. When I click on the link 'See MSE's Top Energy Picks' in the email I received from MSE advising me of this, - the top recommendation offered as a money-saver, is being investigated by Ofgem, the second one has a high volume of unhappy users who struggle to contact the company, & the next five on list are such new companies that MSE has no feedback on them yet.
    These are recommendations from a consumer advice site.....REALLY!??
    If you go through this forum, and many others on the internet, you will find post after post criticising ALL of the energy companies. Even the companies voted top for customer service, receive loads of complaints.

    The recommendations of MSE are based on price. If they were responsible for the poor service by companies none would get recommended.

    So what should MSE do? i.e. how should they grade their recommendations?
    • LVL_CHG
    • By LVL_CHG 23rd Aug 17, 7:35 PM
    • 13 Posts
    • 4 Thanks
    LVL_CHG
    What's the latest date at which I would need to commence a switch to another supplier, if MSE haven't created another collective??
    • Hengus
    • By Hengus 23rd Aug 17, 7:46 PM
    • 4,555 Posts
    • 2,721 Thanks
    Hengus
    What's the latest date at which I would need to commence a switch to another supplier, if MSE haven't created another collective??
    Originally posted by LVL_CHG
    You could wait until the last day of your present fixed tariff contract plus 3 days and initiate a switch. Provided you choose a supplier that is fully signed up to 17 day switching (it is a voluntary code) your losing supplier should be notified that there is a transfer in progress by day 20 after fixed contract end date. Provided there are no hiccups, you will remain on your present tariff until the transfer goes through. If your old supplier is not informed of the transfer until Day 21, then you will end up on the SVT.

    That said, that difference in cost between your new and old tariffs is pence not £s, I would not wait until the last minute to initiate a switch. You are asking for problems.
    • SG27
    • By SG27 23rd Aug 17, 8:24 PM
    • 1,939 Posts
    • 1,212 Thanks
    SG27
    Ive just switched today. If you go with a company that doesnt lock you in you can still take advantage of any potential collective switch at a later date.
    Mortgage Debt: £93,537.48/£105,025 Feb 13
    Overpayments so far: £3,939.72
    • LVL_CHG
    • By LVL_CHG 23rd Aug 17, 9:01 PM
    • 13 Posts
    • 4 Thanks
    LVL_CHG
    Many thanks for the replies
    • M271
    • By M271 26th Aug 17, 8:39 AM
    • 205 Posts
    • 78 Thanks
    M271
    Well I've gone for the 'bird in the hand' policy and have started the switch from the collective switch to EDF Fixed until September 2018. Better deals may or may not come later but any overlapping weeks into the far higher BG standard tariff will cost a lot more. Its costing me now £89 / month rather than the £80 on the collective but BG raised my DD to £86 anyway during the year even though I was in credit, so have a refund due.
    Good luck to you waiting for a new good collective or better energy company pre-winter deals and I hope that you get one, but for me the EDF offer is OK in the CURRENT market.
    Originally posted by M271
    Well my switching date from MSE BG Collective to EDF 1 year online saver fix seems to be on 7th September only 2.5 weeks after applying rather than the 4 weeks I was expecting from previous experience, but I'd rather under shoot (at a lower energy consumption time of year) than over shoot the roll over date onto the very much more expensive BG Standard rate. But others may want to take note of the timing if planning on doing the same switch.
    • littlebw
    • By littlebw 26th Aug 17, 8:57 AM
    • 28 Posts
    • 3 Thanks
    littlebw
    Well my switching date from MSE BG Collective to EDF 1 year online saver fix seems to be on 7th September only 2.5 weeks after applying rather than the 4 weeks I was expecting from previous experience, but I'd rather under shoot (at a lower energy consumption time of year) than over shoot the roll over date onto the very much more expensive BG Standard rate. But others may want to take note of the timing if planning on doing the same switch.
    Originally posted by M271
    Ive just applied for this as well, hope its the right choice
    • M271
    • By M271 26th Aug 17, 9:23 AM
    • 205 Posts
    • 78 Thanks
    M271
    Ive just applied for this as well, hope its the right choice
    Originally posted by littlebw
    Only the next month will tell if it is the right choice or not. I preferred to keep away from the newer smaller companies which were only £1 a month less for me than EDF anyway. The MSE BG collective ending Oct 2017 was a very good deal so anything new coming anywhere near it I feel is unlikely. Other better deals may come out between now and October 3rd when the collective ends but the EDF deal seems to me a good enough deal to go onto for £9 month extra with cashback as well.
    • nic_c
    • By nic_c 26th Aug 17, 3:23 PM
    • 1,089 Posts
    • 623 Thanks
    nic_c
    Only the next month will tell if it is the right choice or not. I preferred to keep away from the newer smaller companies which were only £1 a month less for me than EDF anyway. The MSE BG collective ending Oct 2017 was a very good deal so anything new coming anywhere near it I feel is unlikely. Other better deals may come out between now and October 3rd when the collective ends but the EDF deal seems to me a good enough deal to go onto for £9 month extra with cashback as well.
    Originally posted by M271
    Did you go for the online tariff that has exit fees?
    • wizk1
    • By wizk1 26th Aug 17, 4:26 PM
    • 866 Posts
    • 542 Thanks
    wizk1
    Npower seems to be coming out cheaper than EDF by £4 for me. I understand everybody's usage is different, but it seems strange that everybody that has gone ahead with a switch with one of the big players so far hasn't mentioned it yet.

    That said, it seems that TopCashback are offering £60 to switch to EDF rather than the £30 you'd get by going through MSE CEC.
    Last edited by wizk1; 26-08-2017 at 4:35 PM.
    | Student Overdraft: -£2,000 £0 | Car loan -£4,288.80 £0 |
    Cashback earned to date (Cash back credit cards, cashback sites, tarting, stoozing, etc.): £4,451.89 (As of 03/01/13)
    • davethorp
    • By davethorp 26th Aug 17, 4:56 PM
    • 1,421 Posts
    • 1,055 Thanks
    davethorp
    Npower came out best for me too. At least best out of the big 6 suppliers and after a bad experience with a smaller supplier I was only considering the big 6 really.

    Topcashback brought the effective rate down to cheaper than the smaller suppliers anyway

    • Peppapig
    • By Peppapig 27th Aug 17, 2:30 PM
    • 1,120 Posts
    • 15,027 Thanks
    Peppapig
    NPower are showing as the cheapest for me as I'm not keen to go for companies I've never heard of but EDF don't show at all so I'm assuming that deal has been pulled now. Co-op has a fix that's slightly higher on unit price but slightly cheaper on standing charge which appears to be slightly more expensive for my usage but can be fixed unti May 2019. Having read other comments on here I'm wondering if I should do a comparison on confused.com as well. I'm debating switching or waiting to see if MSE can secure something but one thing I know for sure is that I'm not staying with BG, I moved house a few months ago and trying to sort things out with BG has been a nightmare.
    It's the most wonderful timeof the year .....
    • Eurosaver
    • By Eurosaver 27th Aug 17, 11:16 PM
    • 20 Posts
    • 1 Thanks
    Eurosaver
    Npower also cheapest of the big 6 for me. The £60 cashback from Quidco then brings the price down to only £26 a year dearer than the best MSE quote with Breeze.
    • Pedro1877
    • By Pedro1877 28th Aug 17, 11:17 AM
    • 27 Posts
    • 11 Thanks
    Pedro1877
    Agree about Npower's quotes. With the cashback it (Online saver Oct 2017) only works out £2 pm more expensive than the MSE/CEC BG collective fix Oct '17. TCB also offering an extra £2.50 cashback over the bank holiday!!

    That is also now cheaper than the cheapest dual fuel I have found which was One Select.
    Last edited by Pedro1877; 28-08-2017 at 8:59 PM.
    • AndrewN
    • By AndrewN 28th Aug 17, 3:11 PM
    • 3 Posts
    • 1 Thanks
    AndrewN
    I've waited to see if the MSE gurus could come up with another corker like the British Gas collective, but the noises from there seem to suggest that it maybe harder to get such a good collective deal this time - if at all.

    Like others, I've now opted to switch to "EDF Energy Online Saver Sept 18" with £60 cashback by applying via TopCashback.

    With that cashback, it was the cheapest deal on the table that didn't have unknown Customer Service ratings.

    More than happy to risk the early exit fees with that deal.
    • Hengus
    • By Hengus 28th Aug 17, 4:13 PM
    • 4,555 Posts
    • 2,721 Thanks
    Hengus
    I've waited to see if the MSE gurus could come up with another corker like the British Gas collective, but the noises from there seem to suggest that it maybe harder to get such a good collective deal this time - if at all.

    Like others, I've now opted to switch to "EDF Energy Online Saver Sept 18" with £60 cashback by applying via TopCashback.

    With that cashback, it was the cheapest deal on the table that didn't have unknown Customer Service ratings.

    More than happy to risk the early exit fees with that deal.
    Originally posted by AndrewN
    Good for you. However, by using TopCashBack you now see why organisations like MSE are finding it increasingly difficult to arrange competitive collective deals. The domestic energy market has changed over the past 12 months: not all of it for the good imho.
    • nic_c
    • By nic_c 28th Aug 17, 10:08 PM
    • 1,089 Posts
    • 623 Thanks
    nic_c
    Good for you. However, by using TopCashBack you now see why organisations like MSE are finding it increasingly difficult to arrange competitive collective deals. The domestic energy market has changed over the past 12 months: not all of it for the good imho.
    Originally posted by Hengus
    Was the BG collective available through TCB? Cashback sites work by passing on some of the referral fee, similar to how MSE do, except they don't have to concern themselves with it been a good deal.
    • hubb
    • By hubb 29th Aug 17, 8:12 AM
    • 1,815 Posts
    • 358 Thanks
    hubb
    I am in the energy club and have not had any notification on any collective deal here. The cheapest coming up in the comparison is Economy Energy fixed at £644 a year. Is the Edf better than this ?
    • qsk
    • By qsk 29th Aug 17, 11:28 AM
    • 242 Posts
    • 129 Thanks
    qsk
    Npower also cheapest of the big 6 for me. The £60 cashback from Quidco then brings the price down to only £26 a year dearer than the best MSE quote with Breeze.
    Originally posted by Eurosaver
    Quidco/TCB showing £50 for me?
    Npower is also lower for me - hundreds lower than EDF. I guess it all depends on the region and the proportion of electricity in your usage (I am high on electricity). But npower's rating is rather low - which worries me a bit...
Welcome to our new Forum!

Our aim is to save you money quickly and easily. We hope you like it!

Forum Team Contact us

Live Stats

226Posts Today

1,268Users online

Martin's Twitter
  • RT @TfLTravelAlerts: Oxford Circus and Bond Street stations now both reopened and all trains are stopping normally.

  • RT @metpoliceuk: We have not located any trace of suspects, evidence of shots fired or casualties. Officers still on scene. If you are in a?

  • My hopes and prayers are that this turns out to be nothing. Stay safe.

  • Follow Martin