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Landlord wants to stop the lift

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  • patman99
    patman99 Posts: 8,532 Forumite
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    Shame there isn't a wheelchair user living in the block. The ll would have no choice but to keep the lift running until such time as the wheelchair user decided to move.
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  • sevenhills
    sevenhills Posts: 5,871 Forumite
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    The first place to ring would be the local fire station, ask them about fire regulations.
    The Equality Act 2010 - so no disabled person would be able to visit/live in the flats, because someone wants to save some money. Definitely against that law.
  • IAmWales
    IAmWales Posts: 2,024 Forumite
    sevenhills wrote: »
    The first place to ring would be the local fire station, ask them about fire regulations.
    The Equality Act 2010 - so no disabled person would be able to visit/live in the flats, because someone wants to save some money. Definitely against that law.

    There's no requirement for flats to have a lift so disabled people can visit! There's not even an obligation on a LL to install a lift so a disabled can live there, though it's more likely that they would be obliged to continue operating it if a disabled resident was already there. The key to disability adjustments is reasonableness, and a LL would not be expected to incur a disproportionate level of cost to accomodate a prospective tenant or visitor.

    I don't know about any H&S Regs, but in terms of the EqAct it is definitely not against the law to not have an operating lift.
  • sevenhills
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    IAmWales wrote: »
    The key to disability adjustments is reasonableness, and a LL would not be expected to incur a disproportionate level of cost to accomodate a prospective tenant or visitor.

    It would not be a reasonable cost to retrospectively fit a lift, it is reasonable to maintain a lift that is already there.
  • sevenhills
    sevenhills Posts: 5,871 Forumite
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    IAmWales wrote: »
    I don't know about any H&S Regs, but in terms of the EqAct it is definitely not against the law to not have an operating lift.

    Ringing the fire service for advise is free, so it would be an easy thing to try first.
  • IAmWales
    IAmWales Posts: 2,024 Forumite
    sevenhills wrote: »
    It would not be a reasonable cost to retrospectively fit a lift, it is reasonable to maintain a lift that is already there.

    Do you have a citation for your assertion, or is this your opinion? How do you suggest the OP uses your facts/ opinion given that they are not disabled?

    I suggest you do more research into the EqAct before misinterpreting it. It's of no use to the OP.
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    The first place to ring would be the local fire station, ask them about fire regulations.
    What's the relevance of fire regulations? Any evacuation plan should assume the lift is out of action anyway.
  • Alderbank
    Alderbank Posts: 2,799 Forumite
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    In some circumstances very high rise blocks of flats require special firefighters' lifts. This might be at the back of IAmWales's mind, but these regulations are far removed from the block discussed here.
    I don't think the fire service will be your allies for this. They strongly advise against using lifts in a fire situation. The lift might lose power and no-one wants to be trapped inside a sealed metal box in a fire. In fact the lift should have warnings to use the stairs and not the lift in an emergency.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    How on earth has this thread got side-tracked onto the fire service? :huh:

    Sammy you have several possible courses to follow

    1) the tenancy agreement and its implied terms. You could argue this in court - but then probably receive a S21 Notice

    2) the leases - you need to obtain and read. Either ask the resident leaseholder and/or pay the land registry for a copy. If the leases stipulate a lift, the freeholder cannot remove the lift

    3) joint action. Would the LL reconsider if all his tenants walked?

    4) joint action. Would the LL reconsider if all his tenants offered to pay an increased rent?

    5) find another tenancy
  • sevenhills
    sevenhills Posts: 5,871 Forumite
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    IAmWales wrote: »
    Do you have a citation for your assertion, or is this your opinion? How do you suggest the OP uses your facts/ opinion given that they are not disabled?

    I suggest you do more research into the EqAct before misinterpreting it. It's of no use to the OP.
    Since 1st October 2006 every block of flats will require a fire safety risk assessment.
    Not sure if 6 flats qualifies as a block, but a phone call to the fire service is very easy.

    http://www.flat-living.co.uk/advice/373-fire-regulation
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