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Thankfully, there now seems to be a head of steam building against the BBC with the release of salary info and the realisation of a gender pay imbalance of shocking proportions. Apparently, it is not just the celebs. Across the whole BBC - an organisation of 8000 people - women are paid 10% less than men.
I still wonder why what to me/us are manifest issues with TV Licensing have not resulted in either public uproar or action by MPs. I think an amount of it is that the BBC "have an answer for everything", and it is an issue that doesn't affect most people.
Having said that, I am still plugging away and I know of many others who are doing the same. In my case, my MP has just written to Tony Hall on my behalf asking him to address shortcomings in the BBC complaints process regarding TV Licensing operations and policy.0 -
IMO the BBC is not a wholly public service, it is (in a number of cases) a run of the mill broadcaster (albeit maybe better than some).
Broadly agree with the above sentiment to split off things like radio, tv news and maybe some of the documentary type programmes then let the rest sink or swim on its own merits and be propped up by the licence fee. If people want to watch Graeme Norton et al then they will be happy to pay a subscription / watch adverts etc.YNWA
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The commercial arm would move to a subscription model, based on the current pricing of all you can eat for £13 a month and smaller options. It would be phased in over 5 years so in year 1 they need to raise 20% and so on.
Are you kidding? £13 a month! Netflix is like £7pm I cant see people paying £13 voluntarily, the only reason people pay £12.12 is it is required to watch live tv, if it was just for the bbc I would be cancelling that today!YNWA
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You're right Niv, folk wouldn't pay it.
Lets set it at £15 just to makesure.
Goodbye BBC, at last.0 -
No I am not kidding, you are paying that now and so is everyone else with a TV licence
it is just that it is enforced. You can bet the elderly will stick with it and so will those who are not price sensitive.
The £13 is the full thing, I can see them offering packages a low as £5 a month, it is in their interests to address different demographics.
Netflix is cheaper but Sky sell a load of tripe for £20 a month and it has ads, my idea would be to still have no ads but simply have a message at start and end saying brought to you by XYZ as well as product placement and of course international sales. BBC also have more programmes than Netflix by a factor of probably 1000 to 1.
When it is run properly they will become more commercial, use their international sales to get competitive, maybe bid for programmes the way Sky does.
I think if we have the licence phased out over 5 years at 20% year, they can offer the top up of licence, so £116 with £30 optional top up to access iPlayer, get access to some libraries only available via iPlayer.
Then in year two it goes to £86 and £60 per annum, there would be a levy on all the channels as there is/was for C4 & C5 till it is on its own two feet.
I would expect them to split the content between their free to air (covered by the remaining licence fee ) and paid content, so over the 5 year it is all moved to the subscription model except for community programming, news and radio. I think the documentaries would be split, the political ones would be part of BBC News or just under the community part, but the nature documentaries would definitely be paid content.
They are already asking people for their licence via iplayer online, it is just a small step to add encryption and security.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/141025-you-will-need-to-register-and-sign-in-for-bbc-iplayer-here-s-why
We are sort of paying that now; we are NOT paying £13 for BBC we are paying £13 for a tv licence, there is a massive difference. If I were given the choice to not have to pay for a tv licence if I stopped watching BBC then I would cancel it no doubt as I barely watch BBC.
Regarding your sky claim: I pay £6.99 per month (soon to be £7.99) for sky channels via now tv (a sky owned platform), tripe or not is just an opinion of yours, I personally watch a lot more on the sky platform than I do current BBC/iplayer so its all relative.
where do you get your stats of 1000:1 BBC:netflix? I cant believe that with no source as it sounds like the sort of thing spouted by someone trying to justify the BBC service you are suggesting.
Just to make this clear, I am not anti BBC at all, I am simply saying that I cannot believe there will be a wholesale buy in of a £13 per month service simply for BBC , that is 8 channels plus iplayer and of those 8 channels some are quite specialist and I doubt they are all utilised by many. The nowtv equivalent is 11 channels including box sets.
Also, just to point out as you not be aware; the popular programmes on the sky platform are available on catch up (in fact in some cases available on catch up before it has had its main airing!) and catch up has no ads.YNWA
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Hi, I have a question about TV licensing. I realise you need a license to watch live TV but where does this leave the +1 channels like ITV+1 and Film4+1. Are these channels life or broadcasting catchup ? If ITV1 shows a program at 9pm and I watch it on ITV+1 at 10pm am i watching catchup TV or live TV? If this is live TV then how does it differ from me going onto the ITV hub and watching the original program shown on ITV1 at 10pm?
I hope that makes sense
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+1 channels are live linear TV broadcasts, and therefore require a TV Licence.where does this leave the +1 channels like ITV+1 and Film4+1. Are these channels life or broadcasting catchup ? If ITV1 shows a program at 9pm and I watch it on ITV+1 at 10pm am i watching catchup TV or live TV?
When you watch a +1 channel, it is being broadcast to everyone at the same time - it is a broadcast, for which a broadcast Licence is required.If this is live TV then how does it differ from me going onto the ITV hub and watching the original program shown on ITV1 at 10pm?
When you watch ITV Hub and other catch-up and video-on-demand services, you are watching your own personal copy of the program, cued up for you on the servers of the provider and streamed to you over the Internet.
That difference between sharing a broadcast and having your own personal one-to-one copy is the difference between needing a Licence and not needing one. The rules for BBC iPlayer are a special case.0 -
Apologies if this has been covered previously but can anyone tell me if there is a difference if any
between a situation where a room is being 'rented' in a house share and a situation where someone is classified as 'lodging'. If in both situations the owner of the property has a TV license I assume both 'renter' or 'lodger' are covered? I know this may sound like a dumb question but when researching the subject I found some websites seemed to be quite confused on the issue.
I've recently moved into a self contained / annexe situation so will now have to get a license - I've only been here 2 weeks and threatening letter already through the door! The money is a pain, but what concerns me more is making myself visible after having been 'off grid' for so long. If I lodge again in say 8 months time I'll just let the license expire but I'm guessing they'll be keen to know why, or where I'm going to?0 -
Can I suggest you read the guidance on the TVL website here: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/for-your-home/tenants-and-lodgers-aud2 rather than me copying & pasting it all. You'll need to click on the "+" signs to get the full text.Apologies if this has been covered previously but can anyone tell me if there is a difference if any
between a situation where a room is being 'rented' in a house share and a situation where someone is classified as 'lodging'.
You only need a Licence if you need one, which is to watch/record TV Broadcasts or use BBC iPlayer.I've recently moved into a self contained / annexe situation so will now have to get a license - I've only been here 2 weeks and threatening letter already through the door! The money is a pain, but what concerns me more is making myself visible after having been 'off grid' for so long. If I lodge again in say 8 months time I'll just let the license expire but I'm guessing they'll be keen to know why, or where I'm going to?
If you paid for one year's Licence in one go, you can just let it lapse. TVL have no right to any info about you or what you are now doing.
If you paid by DD, you'll need to contact them to cancel properly. They can ask, but the only reason why you'll need to find an answer is if you want a partial refund of your Licence payments. The only reason they now accept without asking for evidence is stopping watching TV.0 -
we are NOT paying £13 for BBC we are paying £13 for a TV licence
Some of us are not paying £13 for either.If I were given the choice to not have to pay for a TV licence if I stopped watching BBC then I would cancel it no doubt as I barely watch BBC.
If you stopped watching the other channels live, then you could legally cancel your TV Licence.0
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