Advice For Future Fines - Leased Car

Mike172 · 6 January 2015 at 4:08PM

That would be nice. I honestly am not baiting them... although if they whitelist my car that would be really great as I absolutely despise private firms now.

I guess you could say I am happy to run the risk in order to save my car's paintwork

Once they move to IAS, I will move back to my space as I really don't want to deal with that.

Mike172 · 12 January 2015 at 8:32PM

OK!!

NTK received with POPLA code. NTK is the usual template from UKCPM. Very similar to post #46 from this thread as usual:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5059166&page=3

Ill be using template from this thread as before (see 49 and 53):

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5059166&page=3

One thing of note........requests the reduced amount of £60 instead of £100 as I am appealing early here... that matter?

GPEOL is still outlined by them as "Beyond £100" in the NTK. Basically every time it states £100 in the NTK photocopy in the link above changed to £60 rather than £100, aside from their "Beyond £100" GPEOL.

Thanks, ill copy and paste the POPLA appeal in my thread linked above if I am OK to proceed.

bod1467 · 12 January 2015 at 8:39PM

What do you mean ... NtK received with POPLA code? You don't get a POPLA code with an NtK - you get one after appealing an NtK (or NtD).

Mike172 · 12 January 2015 at 9:01PM

My car is leased and received a windscreen PCN. As the advice in this thread I appealed early to 'hook the PPC my way' else the lease company may have received the fine which they could pay.

In doing so I used the 1st stage appeal to appeal the windscreen notice rather than wait for the NTK (As I have with other tickets). Perhaps NTK is incorrect, I have a letter with a POPLA code which looks exactly the same as the other letters I received after using the first stage appeal against the NTKs I received requesting the higher amount.

I get mixed up with all these acronyms sorry.

bod1467 · 12 January 2015 at 10:41PM

That's OK. What you meant was you have an appeal rejection with a POPLA code.

Now you just need to sort out your POPLA appeal to kill this stone dead. And since you're already familiar with this ... got get 'em tiger!

Coupon-mad · 12 January 2015 at 11:55PM

Mike172 wrote: »

OK!!

NTK received with POPLA code. NTK is the usual template from UKCPM. Very similar to post #46 from this thread as usual:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5059166&page=3

Ill be using template from this thread as before (see 49 and 53):

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5059166&page=3

Except that you can't leave point #5 like in that example '5) Non compliant Notice to Keeper - no keeper liability established under POFA 2012' because this time you have not been served with a NTK. If you didn't say who was driving at any point then you should try to emulate this careful timing:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5145051

and say no keeper liability is established because the NTK was completey omitted and it's now past day 56...

Mike172 · 13 January 2015 at 8:22PM

Yeah forgot to mention about part 5 being removed.

I dont HAVE to wait do I? Rather this was efficient. GPEOL will win so no need to wait IMO. Sure its another nail in the coffin so to speak but id sooner get it over with.

Thanks

Coupon-mad · 13 January 2015 at 11:55PM

GPEOL wins 99% of the time but...what if they counter it this time? If it were me, I would diarise it to send it with perfect timing (within the POPLA code valid dates) so they will be timed out of the NTK window. IMHO you need the slam dunk winning appeal point as well that there was no NTK served (they cannot beat that appeal point after day 56).

Or submit the POPLA appeal and then when you get the evidence from the PPC, send a quick email of rebuttal to POPLA straight away and also add the gem about 'no NTK served so no keeper liability'.

Mike172 · 14 January 2015 at 10:46AM

Thanks Coupon. Doubt ill see an evidence pack from UKCPM. Ill have a think and likely try option two depending how confident I feel.

Coupon-mad · 14 January 2015 at 1:48PM

I quite like option 2 as well, if they go to the trouble of an evidence pack trying to rebut the GPEOL argument you can then surprise them with a sucker punch!

Advice For Future Fines - Leased Car

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