Help! Stepsons mobile bill > £4500
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So there would be no chance whatsoever, zero, zilch, bet-my-shirt chance of Orange taking any legal action through the courts to get a judgement for the £4500?? So a CCJ, bailiffs seizing goods doesn't happen in real life?
Great advice from a safe armchair - do an Ostrich and wear your adverse credit rating with pride.
Yup, there is pretty much no chance of that happening.
Not everybody needs or cares about good credit rating. I hold fairness above that. If Orange (or any other company) do not behave in a way that I consider fair, then I see no reason to comply with their requests.''apply within''0 -
In order to prevent bill shock, perhaps all networks should be obliged to send a free text to customers when they first log on to a network outside the EEA, giving data prices per gigabyte. If the networks were forced to quote their prices per gigabyte (e.g. £8000 in this case), it would embarrass them into reducing their prices to a reasonable level. After all, they typically quote their UK prices in chunks of 500MB or 1GB, so the only reason they quote their prices per megabyte for usage outside the UK is to disguise the unreasonably high prices. However, at least it's not as bad as some countries, where networks quote data roaming prices per kilobyte.0
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In order to prevent bill shock, perhaps all networks should be obliged to send a free text to customers when they first log on to a network outside the EEA, giving data prices per gigabyte. If the networks were forced to quote their prices per gigabyte (e.g. £8000 in this case), it would embarrass them into reducing their prices to a reasonable level. After all, they typically quote their UK prices in chunks of 500MB or 1GB, so the only reason they quote their prices per megabyte for usage outside the UK is to disguise the unreasonably high prices. However, at least it's not as bad as some countries, where networks quote data roaming prices per kilobyte.
In the old days of IT when people asked questions that they had the answer to they may have got the blunt reply of RTFM, in this days and age its more a case of RTFTCS (read the f**** terms & conditions).
Sounds harsh but after years of press coverage about this topic and increased protection enforced by the EU it should no longer be an excuse to say "I didn't realise it would cost so much".IT Consultant in the utilities industry specialising in the retail electricity market.
4 Credit Card and 1 Loan PPI claims settled for £26k, 1 rejected (Opus).0 -
wantmemoney wrote: »may be it's time the Networks were told to allow customers (not just parents) to be able to put spend limits on accounts.
ALL networks already have this in place.
The problem lies in the fact that once you go out of the EU, the time it takes from when you used the service to your mobile phone company being told by the service you were roaming on what they usage is can be weeks. It is not realtime. Therefore any procedures put in place can't really work.0 -
useless_git_requires_wife wrote: »Personally, I wouldn't pay.
The charge is unreasonable and Orange (as with all mobile phone companies) are profiteering bandits who don't give two hoots about anything but their bank balance. If they do not want to be reasonable, I would go into default with them and accept the consequence of a bad credit rating.....though I'm sure I'll be in a minority of one on this site.
Actually for that amount they can file to have you declared bankrupt. If someone owed me thousands and didn't pay, I sure as hell would petition to have them made bankrupt.0 -
Surely anyone with half a brain should realise that £3/mb is £3000/gb. I think the problem is that people are used to getting larger and larger included data volumes in their monthly bundles and dont seem to think about it when going abroard. There are lots of apps to monitor usage that you can use to keep track especially when aboard.
For a lot of people using but not really understanding the technology, Kb, Mb, Gb etc. means absolutely nothing. An awful lot of people with a full brain would have no idea if a Mb costs £3, what a Gb would cost, let alone how much their smartphone uses.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the In My Home MoneySaving, Energy and Techie Stuff boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.
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Surely anyone with half a brain should realise that £3/mb is £3000/gb.
Even better, perhaps the networks should automatically look up the average daily UK data usage for a particular customer, and send that as a text upon logging on to a non-EEA network. For example if someone uses an average of 15MB/day in the UK, then the informational text would tell the customer that their normal usage will cost them £120/day while roaming on that network.0 -
Notmyrealname wrote: »Actually for that amount they can file to have you declared bankrupt. If someone owed me thousands and didn't pay, I sure as hell would petition to have them made bankrupt.
Orange most certainly would not file for a bankruptcy petition.
I doubt you would either given the costs involved and your likely return.''apply within''0 -
wantmemoney wrote: »may be it's time the Networks were told to allow customers (not just parents) to be able to put spend limits on accounts.
said this before, but its not just spend limit, but the phone company being fully aware of a phone line abuse/misuse and just letting it multiply
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £100
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £200
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £300
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £400
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £500
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £600
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £700
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £800
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £900
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £1000
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £2000
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £3000
Phone company were totally aware when the phone bill reached £4000
but "chose" to ignore it and rake in the cash
It would be no trouble for phone companies to contact the user at these intervals to ensure it is being accrued with user consent/acknowledgement/agreement
it will eventually become law as these cases increase - cast iron fact!
and if it were to go to court today, the judge will definitely consider thisWhen will the "Edit" and "Quote" button get fixed on the mobile web interface?0 -
Yes operators should send out text alerts when every £25 or £50 of data is used but I dare say that the problem might be that it takes a certain amount of time before the UK operator gets this used data info from the foreign network operator.
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