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Why do tenants have so many rights?
Because housing is really important. Having a place to live is a fundamental human right and somebody who sets themselves up to provide that in exchange for money is in a position of huge responsibility.
We can't have a situation where people could find themselves homeless will nilly on a landlord's whim, or where it becomes impossible for lots of people to even find a place to live in the first place.0 -
boliston, I think the principle is the same even if you don't agree.
on a similar note, everyone needs food, but I don't think you can walk into a restaurant, eat as much as you want and then decide you are not going to pay.
You can however order your food and if it is not up to an edible standard refuse to pay either all or some of the bill.
I have had good and bad landlords in the past, one hated spending any money on property maintenance, however I was paying for the right to live in a decent home. We once had a fault with the boiler which couldn't pump hot water upstairs leaving us unable to bath or shower and we had to either boil a kettle of water or wash downstairs and shower in relatives homes. He was so busy trying to get a cheap plumber because his usual cheap cowboy was on holidays that it went on for almost two weeks until I gave him notice that if he didn't get it fixed within 24 hours I would hire my own plumber and deduct the cost from the rent. He finally got someone to sort it the next day.
Do you think it was unreasonable of me to threaten to withhold rent in that situation?0 -
ok, but shouldn't it be a case of no rent no stay?
I have been watching nightmare tenants recently and the way some of these tenants are, its absolutely disgusting. just saying.0 -
Because being homeless SUCKS
And tenants don't have many rights actually. Most live with only a month's notice hanging over their headsChanging the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.0 -
Personally? Yes, I think you were. To be a bit annoyed at the delay as clearly inconvenienced, fair enough, but to think it gave you the right to withhold rent for something that most home owners would accept? Yes, unreasonable.Do you think it was unreasonable of me to threaten to withhold rent in that situation?0 -
ok, so being homeless means you don't need to pay your rent???0
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ok, but shouldn't it be a case of no rent no stay?
I have been watching nightmare tenants recently and the way some of these tenants are, its absolutely disgusting. just saying.
It would depend on the reason for not paying rent. If they are just not paying then they should be evicted and it should be easier for landlords to evict in some circumstances. If however rent is being withheld due to a maintenance issue that the landlord has failed to rectify then no they shouldn't be allowed to evict and the landlord should be further penalised to discourage them from treating tenant so badly in the future.
It should also be that the government isn't as screwed up as it is with more help for people facing difficulties. It could be that a tenant has lost their job and has no money to pay the rent, they of course are not going to want to live on the streets and with little to no help available especially short term immediate help they don't have much choice other than to not pay the rent.0 -
I am thinking about becoming a landlord for the first time and one of the main issues that is concerning me is the control that tenants can have over their landlords.
From many posts that I have read, on this forum and others, it seems like tenants can move into a property, look for loopholes, problems, etc, and then decide not to pay their rent, which can often take months for the landlord to evict.
If I was stop paying mortgage payments to my own house, the bank would be breathing right down my neck.
How can this be possible? and when the landlord goes chasing for the money, he can be accused of not allowing the tenant to enjoy his home in peace.
Just because the tenant is paying rent, doesn't mean he owns the house. Surely there must be more rights for the landlord
For example, if I was to hire a car, my deposit wouldn't protected and I'm fairly sure I wouldn't think the car is mine.
Can anyone give me their opinions?
Car hire is not the same as renting a property.
If you have concerns over becoming a Landlord then DO NOT do it.
You read other threads and articles on what happens when it goes wrong, you do not read many threads about landlords who rent their property and receive rent for many years from good tenants, they are very boring reading.
Good luck with your new venture, if you dare take the plunge!0 -
boliston, I think the principle is the same even if you don't agree. on a similar note, everyone needs food, but I don't think you can walk into a restaurant, eat as much as you want and then decide you are not going to pay.
Unfortunately for you the law doesn't agree with you. Property has its own set of laws therefore renting a property is not comparable to hiring a car, borrowing a book or dining out in a restaurant.
You might find this blog article by a solicitor specialising in English housing law interesting.
http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2015/01/13/do-tenants-own-the-property-they-rent/ok, but shouldn't it be a case of no rent no stay?
That's where there's a Section 8 eviction route which leads to the eviction of a tenant far quicker than a mortgage lender can repossess a property due to mortgage arrears. Hell, landlords can evict using the Section 21 route which doesn't even need a reason.I have been watching nightmare tenants recently and the way some of these tenants are, its absolutely disgusting. just saying.
Do you know what all those tenants have in common. Their landlords chose them. Out of all the tenants out there looking for a new home they were chosen by the landlord using whatever referencing/tenant selection method the landlord chose.
Sure referencing isn't infallible but it's unlikely that someone who up until now had been a model tenant decided to be an !!!!!!.
Nightmare tenants just cost landlords time and money. No one is forced to become a landlord, it a choice, even those that claim to be "accidental" landlords made a conscious decision to become a landlord. On the flip side, everyone needs somewhere to live and nightmare landlords cause far more damage to their tenants that a nightmare tenant can cause a landlord.0 -
Personally? Yes, I think you were. To be a bit annoyed at the delay as clearly inconvenienced, fair enough, but to think it gave you the right to withhold rent for something that most home owners would accept? Yes, unreasonable.
Really? Now that I am a homeowner I would not let myself go two weeks with no hot water upstairs, I would get it sorted ASAP (BTW there was only one bathroom and it was upstairs) should I have the right to be able to have a bath or shower in a home I am paying rent for, what if I didn't happen to have relatives near by who's shower I could use? How long do you think it would be acceptable for me to have to forgo basic hygiene in order for the landlord to save a few £. Would it have been more reasonable to not threaten to withhold the rent but to expect the landlord to offer a reduction for the time I didn't have full use of all of the facilities I was paying for?
Most homeowners would not accept something like that they would want it fixed as soon as possible. You rlly are not cut out to be a landlord with your way of thinking, bad landlords attract bad tenants as the good ones will get fed up and go elsewhere where they get a decent level of "service" for their money leaving just bad tenants willing to move in out of desperation.0
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