Bitcoin, Blockchain & Cryptocurrencies

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unitedwestand
unitedwestand Posts: 205 Forumite
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edited 1 December 2017 at 11:32AM in Site feedback
MoneySavingExpert Insert:

Hi, Martin's blogged on Bitcoins and cryptocurrencies. Have a read of it here:

Bitcoin: Four things you need to know

Back to unitedwestand's original post...

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Searching the main MSE site for "Bitcoin" returns 8 results, "Blockchain 1 result & Cryptocurrencies 1 & 3 of these results are for the same single article.

Doing the same on the UK Governments website, Bitcoin 16 results, Blockchain 23 results & Cryptocurrencies 9 results.

Whereas searching for the term "money" returns 184k results on MSE and only 18k on Gov.UK and "Cash" 181k results on MSE and 7k on Gov.uk

This technology is undoubtedly the biggest financial revolution in the past decade and has the potential to empower & save the average person in every single element of what MSE covers.

Does MSE intentionally avoid covering it's evolution or will there be plans to dedicate forums and webpages to it in the future?

I'd really like to see that :T
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  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
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    ..This technology is undoubtedly the biggest financial revolution in the past decade....

    It is if you are a drug dealer, a hitman, or similar. Otherwise, it is of no relevance to the individuals riding the local omnibus.
    ... and has the potential to empower & save the average person in every single element of what MSE covers....

    Perhaps if you were to give a few clues as to exactly how bitcoin could "save the average person in every single element of what MSE covers", MSE might listen.
  • Mobeer
    Mobeer Posts: 1,851 Forumite
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    This technology is undoubtedly the biggest financial revolution in the past decade and has the potential...

    I agree Blockchain is "the biggest financial revolution", but it just hasn't happened quite yet. This site tends to cover more mature technologies as they become widespread.

    For example the news articles section is currently is showing a story on contactless payments, which started in about 1997, but haven't become widespread until much more recently. This has maybe reached the Gartner hype curve's "Slope of Enlightenment". By comparison Blockchain feels closer to the "Peak of Inflated Expectations" stage.
  • unitedwestand
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    antrobus wrote: »
    It is if you are a drug dealer, a hitman, or similar. Otherwise, it is of no relevance to the individuals riding the local omnibus.

    Does that include Microsoft, Virgin, Expedia, Paypal, Dell, Bloomberg, Tesla, T-mobile etc who all use it?
    antrobus wrote: »
    Perhaps if you were to give a few clues as to exactly how bitcoin could "save the average person in every single element of what MSE covers", MSE might listen.

    Or maybe you could give a clue how it couldn't?
  • glentoran99
    glentoran99 Posts: 5,821 Forumite
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    Does that include Microsoft, Virgin, Expedia, Paypal, Dell, Bloomberg, Tesla, T-mobile etc who all use it?



    Or maybe you could give a clue how it couldn't?



    How would a constantly fluctuating crytpo currency save me money in laymans terms?
  • Quasar
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    How would a constantly fluctuating crytpo currency save me money in laymans terms?


    I agree. One bitcoin was worth over £1000 about three weeks ago, today it's only £839. A few years ago it was £700-750 for several weeks, then after a cyber attack that "stole" around £250m worth of bitcoins, it plummeted to £250, slowly going up in the last few months. There is NO way I would regard bitcoin as a way of saving.
    Be careful who you open up to. Today it's ears, tomorrow it's mouth.
  • unitedwestand
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    How would a constantly fluctuating crytpo currency save me money in laymans terms?

    How would Match Betting save you money but it still gets a forum board dedicated to it?

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=41

    Whatever people opinion Blockchain & Cryptocurrencies high in value, low in value, small market caps, large market caps... whatever are one of, if not thee most technological and financial revolutions the world has ever seen.

    They are here to stay, governments are talking about and addressing them, financial industries are looking to implement and use them and in the future they will undoubtedly play their part in every financial discussion that takes place on MSE one way or another.

    They have the future potential to really empower and enrich the average person, either directly or indirectly.

    Search the MSE forums and already there are almost 5,000 topics that refer to Bitcoin, however only one MSE article that I can see.

    I really think the site and forum could benefit from more coverage & discussion on either good bad or indifferent on Bitcoin, Blockchain & Cryptocurrencies.

    No?
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
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    ..They have the future potential to really empower and enrich the average person, either directly or indirectly. ...

    How?

    Simply avoiding answering that question rather implies that your claim is simply BS.:)
    ...Search the MSE forums and already there are almost 5,000 topics that refer to Bitcoin, however only one MSE article that I can see....

    Write it yourself.
    ...I really think the site and forum could benefit from more coverage & discussion on either good bad or indifferent on Bitcoin, Blockchain & Cryptocurrencies.
    ..

    How would the site and forum "benefit"?
  • unitedwestand
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    antrobus wrote: »
    How?

    Simply avoiding answering that question rather implies that your claim is simply BS.:)



    Write it yourself.



    How would the site and forum "benefit"?

    Current market cap of cryptocurrencies is $27,583,535,022 vs antrobus calling BS

    If you don't know/ see the benefits and future possibilities I suggest a little self-education and research might be in order before trying dismiss the case against them.

    Smart contracts
    One of the most promising applications of blockchain technology is the smart contract. It can execute commercial transactions and agreements automatically. It also enforces the obligations of all parties in a contract – without the added expense of a middleman.

    Share trading
    Share trading will soon be impacted by the blockchain. Utilizing blockchain technology potentially allows for greater trade accuracy, and a shorter settlement process.

    speeding up and simplifying cross-border payments
    The transfer of value has always been an expensive and slow process. This is particularly true for cross-border payments. The blockchain is able to speed up and simplify this process - and also reduces the costs significantly.

    improve online identity management
    When identity management is moved to the blockchain, users are able to choose how to identify themselves and who will be informed. They still need to register their identity on the blockchain somehow, but after that, they can re-use that identification for other services.

    loyalty and rewards
    Blockchain offers many benefits, including transparency and traceability of transactions. This will help banks and insurers to create a more captivating loyalty and rewards program that fits 24/7 performance management and enhances engagement.

    Healthcare
    Using digital signatures on blockchain-based data that allows access only when authorized by multiple people could regulate the availability and maintain the privacy of health records. In addition, a community of people, including hospitals, doctors, patients, and insurance companies, could be part of the overall blockchain, reducing fraud in healthcare payments.

    Defence
    Unauthorized access or modification of critical defense infrastructure, such as operating systems and network firmware, could seriously compromise national security. For most countries, defense infrastructure and computer systems are distributed across different locations. Blockchain technology distributed across multiple data centers can ensure security against attacks on important network and hardware equipment by ensuring consensus-based access for modification.

    Government
    Government departments that work in silos cause the exchange of information to be delayed, negatively impacting citizen services. Linking the data between the departments with blockchain ensures that data is released in real time, when both the departments and the citizen consent to sharing data. Blockchain technology could improve transparency and check corruption in governments worldwide.

    Law
    Blockchains can contain a huge amount of data, including entire contracts. The impact of “smart contracts”—protocols that facilitate or enforce contract performance using blockchain—will have a profound impact for industries. Smart contracts eliminate the middleman, such as a legal firm, as payment will happen based on certain milestones being met. By its very nature, the smart contract is easily enforceable electronically, creating a powerful escrow by taking it out of the control of a single party.

    Energy
    Microgeneration of electricity is becoming a huge trend in the power generation business. New energy initiatives such as home power generation and community solar power are filling in gaps of power supply across the world. As microgeneration adds to traditional power suppliers, it fosters creation of an energy market. Smart meters can register produced and consumed electricity in a blockchain, which allows for consumption of the surplus energy in a different location, providing credits or currency to the original producer. The credits can then be redeemed against the grid when the microgenerator needs additional electricity from the grid. The blockchain enforces these contracts in real time or near-real time, allowing for a utility market to be created with minimal red tape.

    There are countless benefits and endless possibilities for this technology both centralised and decentralised, regulated and unregulated, commercial and domestic.

    It is currently and will completely revolutionise the full financial sector and beyond, from the commercial sector to the average person on the forum.

    It's not going away, the technological genie is truly out the bottle and I thing the forum with thousands of topics referencing it could do with a board and site acknowledging it, because at the moment there appears to be a large proportion of people receiving only the hyper-negative one-sided coverage from the mainstream media and there doesn't seem to be much by the ways of constructive discussion, coverage, assistance, information or debate.
  • LABMAN
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    I think you were asked to write it yourself...that does not mean cut and paste from one source and not reference that source. Not credible of you to do so and it's against forum rules.
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    Thanks for the feedback unitedwestand. I'm passing it on to the Money Team.
    Could you do with a Money Makeover?


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