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    • Giggidy
    • By Giggidy 11th Jan 18, 10:13 AM
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    Ordering products from USA
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    • 11th Jan 18, 10:13 AM
    Ordering products from USA 11th Jan 18 at 10:13 AM
    I would like to order some hair products from the US, in smallish quantities from various companies, no more than a 100 items to sell in a subscription box. A lot of these products you cant find here, or are much cheaper than UK prices even with shipping costs. Would I be liable to pay any customs or duties on these? I tried contacting HMRC but the lines are extremely busy
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    • bengalknights
    • By bengalknights 11th Jan 18, 12:55 PM
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    Yes you would pay duty and VAT on the items

    Believe duty is 11% on cosmetics
    • soolin
    • By soolin 11th Jan 18, 2:23 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 2:23 PM
    Plus you'll pay handling fees as well depending on the courier you use.
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    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 11th Jan 18, 7:11 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 7:11 PM
    I would like to order some hair products from the US, in smallish quantities from various companies, no more than a 100 items to sell in a subscription box. A lot of these products you cant find here, or are much cheaper than UK prices even with shipping costs. Would I be liable to pay any customs or duties on these? I tried contacting HMRC but the lines are extremely busy
    Originally posted by Giggidy
    even people who do not buy in order to sell must pay import duties so yes of course you will have to pay duties and VAT

    you may want to check your business plan again...
    • paddyrg
    • By paddyrg 12th Jan 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 12th Jan 18, 1:04 PM
    Yes, you'll pay duty and VAT. If the above is correct that'll be about +33% plus courier fee (may be as low as £8, £15 isn't uncommon). If they're cheap enough it's not a big deal BUT you (as importer and distributor) will be liable if they cause harm/have EU-illegal ingredients/whatever.
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    • By WibblyGirly 12th Jan 18, 3:16 PM
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    https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/106/
    • Giggidy
    • By Giggidy 12th Jan 18, 6:01 PM
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    • 12th Jan 18, 6:01 PM
    even people who do not buy in order to sell must pay import duties so yes of course you will have to pay duties and VAT

    you may want to check your business plan again...
    Originally posted by 00ec25
    Wow, you seem nice. Must be great knowing everything about everything, and never having to ask anyone questions about something you unsure of. Well done you
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 12th Jan 18, 6:04 PM
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    Double check that it's legal to sell those products in this country - as they are personal care products it's possible they don't meet UK/EU laws. Often stuff sold under the same name in different countries has been altered in some way to be legal in each individual country and sold only through their authorised channels/suppliers for this reason.
    • Giggidy
    • By Giggidy 12th Jan 18, 6:27 PM
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    • 12th Jan 18, 6:27 PM
    Double check that it's legal to sell those products in this country - as they are personal care products it's possible they don't meet UK/EU laws. Often stuff sold under the same name in different countries has been altered in some way to be legal in each individual country and sold only through their authorised channels/suppliers for this reason.
    Originally posted by PasturesNew
    Thanks for the heads up! These products are sold in shops here that import from the US, obviously at an over-inflated price which is why I was thinking of buying direct, but won't be worth it either after factoring in Import VAT, courier fees / royal mail handling fees
    • martindow
    • By martindow 13th Jan 18, 12:54 PM
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    Wow, you seem nice. Must be great knowing everything about everything, and never having to ask anyone questions about something you unsure of. Well done you
    Originally posted by Giggidy
    Your tone is surprising. You came here to ask for information and advice and it is good that you have received this before you went ahead with an order.

    I don't think it's been mentioned yet but you would also have had to pay VAT on the carriage costs.

    Factory gate prices in foreign countries are often very low but once shipping, duty and VAT have been paid the price once you receive the items can be very different.
    • Giggidy
    • By Giggidy 13th Jan 18, 10:32 PM
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    Your tone is surprising. You came here to ask for information and advice and it is good that you have received this before you went ahead with an order.

    I don't think it's been mentioned yet but you would also have had to pay VAT on the carriage costs.

    Factory gate prices in foreign countries are often very low but once shipping, duty and VAT have been paid the price once you receive the items can be very different.
    Originally posted by martindow
    Thanks Martin, after the useful info I received on here, I decided not to go ahead, it just wouldn't be cost effective.

    With regards to the response you quoted, as you said I came here for advice, and as often is the case on forums like this, most people are helpful, others just patronising and unnecessary
    • theroamingnomad
    • By theroamingnomad 13th Jan 18, 11:11 PM
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    I've found Amazon and eBay to be a great sources for American cosmetic and toiletry products at competitive prices
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    • Giggidy
    • By Giggidy 13th Jan 18, 11:47 PM
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    I've found Amazon and eBay to be a great sources for American cosmetic and toiletry products at competitive prices
    Originally posted by theroamingnomad
    Thank you, will give that a look!
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