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Hello, I have only just registered on here but have been receiving the emails for a while. My partner and I are in debt to the tune of around £16,000. We are currently coping with the repayments as I have already sought advice from the CAB for my personal debts. However, partner also has debts which were brought into the new relationship. The CAB dealt with debts are going ok, all the interest is frozen and the payments are being made. I have managed to clear my priority debts and approx £1,500 of non priority debts now that were my sole debts. But I am sick of being in debt and dream about the day when the final one is paid. I hate having all our income being spoken for for repayments.

Ok I'll set the scene and see what you can help me with.

I had a baby with a man who I had a mortgage with, and we earned £20k between us 5 years ago. He had just graduated and so had student overdraft debt etc. He worked full time and I worked 2 jobs. We had just bought a house, so money was tight. But all the credit card payments and loans were being paid, until he left. That is where my problems started. I stupidly had most bills in my sole name leaving me responsible. I was a single parent on income support and ended up defaulting on my credit card. 3 years later I was in £7,000 of debt and ended up in real trouble financially. I lost my job and that made things worse. I went to CAB who were terrific. Anyway, so all those debts are now being paid monthly, no interest and its ok.

I then met a guy who I now live with who brought over £10,000 debt with him. The debt is in car finance, catalogue (interest free), credit card, store card. We don't have the car anymore, and are not paying interest on the debt, but it is a default. We have never sought help for those debts because we can afford the payments on paper. We bring in £24,000 between us but only £16,500 is his guaranteed income, and about £3,000 is overtime. The rest is maintenance, child benefit, child tax credits etc.

We are getting married in 15 weeks and have saved for 18 months for it, so we have not had to borrow anymore. But I'm dreading starting married life in such a bad financial situation. We can't get a mortgage because of defaults, so are stuck with £400pcm rent. The difficulty is although we earn enough to pay, there never seems to be any spare money to do it with. I admit I love shopping and hate being without things. I know this is my downfall, but it's hard to stop. We have 2 under 5's as well. I am doing a degree at the moment with the OU so I don't incur debt, as I get free course funding through them and a grant of £250 a year for study expenses. I can also claim back childcare from the access funds, which I do get back. My youngest is 18mths you see, and he goes in daycare for 3 mornings so that I can study as I do the equivalent of full time study.

I suppose I just want some advice about how to motivate myself into doing more to get rid of debt. At the rate we are paying it will take 7 years to repay, I'd love to have it clear within 3 but don't want to see every penny disappear each month. We have no savings other than the wedding fund.

Feel free to throw ideas at me xx
Official DFW Nerd #148 :D
Debt level @ highest (May 2004): £15000 :eek: Debt level @ August 2006: £9591.53
Lightbulb moment May 2006 :idea:

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  • Hi loobyloo,
    I'm new to this site, but a regular on the Dealing with Debt Board on The Motley Fool website, so can bring some ideas over from that board.

    If on paper you have enough money, but in reality you don't, then I think the starting point for you is a 'Statement of Affairs' and a spending diary.

    A Statement of Affairs is a list of what you spend each month. It should include regular payments like rent, gas, elec, water, tv licence, sky, food, toiletries, haircuts, clothes, presents, going out, council tax, car tax, car maintenance, etc etc etc. Then a list of your debts, minimum payments, and APRs. If you like, post it on here and I can have a look to see if you've missed anything out, or if you can make any cutbacks anywhere.

    If you have a surplus after LISTING everything - ask yourself if it really feels like you have that surplus. If not (I didn't), then you need to keep a spending diary for a month to find out where the money leaks away. My biggest downfall was in cash withdrawals. I'd withdraw £20, but have no idea what I'd spent it on and nothing to show for it before I needed some more. Snacks, coffees, juices, papers, magazines, sandwich - it all adds up to a surprisingly large amount - and is well worth tracking.

    Then you can plug these amounts into your SoA as well, and look at where you can make cutbacks if necessary. Make sure that any new budget is a realistically liveable budget, as you'll have to be able to maintain the budget throughout the debt repayment period. With any surplus left over from your budget, target the debt with the highest interest rate first, and pay this extra amount over and above the minimum payment. Once you have cleared one debt, this becomes addictive as you see them all start to fall.

    There is no doubt that repaying debt is a hard slog - after all it didn't build up all in a few months, so won't be paid off that quickly either.

    Good luck - and do post again with any questions.

    Kind regards
  • I admit I love shopping and hate being without things. I know this is my downfall, but it's hard to stop.

    Hi, me again!

    I think it is important to include an allowance for you to be able to do this, just like you would pay for a child to have a hobby. If you go 'zero tolerance' you are likely to feel deprived and blow money you haven't got, but if you put aside a set amount each month from your budget just for you to spend, then you are more likely to stick at it long term.

    As an income generating thought - have you bought anything that you could car boot or sell on ebay.

    Second hand books go really well on Amazon, https://www.greenmetropolis.com, or ebay and CDs/DVDs go well on amazon and ebay. I also sell clothes on ebay that I'm never going to fit into again (post-childbirth!), and have sold loads of my daughter's clothes and toys that she's grown out of. All proceeds go to debt repayment for me, but maybe you could keep that as your 'treat' shopping money?

    Just suggestions - some things for you to mull over.

    Kind regards
  • rumblytum wrote:
    Hi, me again!

    I think it is important to include an allowance for you to be able to do this, just like you would pay for a child to have a hobby. If you go 'zero tolerance' you are likely to feel deprived and blow money you haven't got, but if you put aside a set amount each month from your budget just for you to spend, then you are more likely to stick at it long term.

    As an income generating thought - have you bought anything that you could car boot or sell on ebay.

    Second hand books go really well on Amazon, https://www.greenmetropolis.com, or ebay and CDs/DVDs go well on amazon and ebay. I also sell clothes on ebay that I'm never going to fit into again (post-childbirth!), and have sold loads of my daughter's clothes and toys that she's grown out of. All proceeds go to debt repayment for me, but maybe you could keep that as your 'treat' shopping money?

    Just suggestions - some things for you to mull over.

    Kind regards

    Hiya, and thanks for both of your replies. Some good advice, yes.

    I am so pleased you suggested giving myself a little allowance!!! You see, when I was dealing with CAB and subsequently the debt companies myself, they wouldn't allow the things CAB set money aside for like repairs and haircuts and stuff. This has led me to exaggerate a couple of outgoings just to keep a bit spare. I have a daughter who goes to ballet and I have 2 kids who need shoes etc, but I always feel in the wrong for putting stuff like swimming and ballet down. We don;t socialise much and we don;t drink or smoke at home either. I am dieting so we don't get takeaways.

    I buy and sell loads on ebay and have now run out of things to sell!!! I made over £200 last month, but it went on wedding stuff. I think I will def have a go at a SoA, and I shall post it for you to give me any pointers. Think I will tackle it tonight. Thanks again
    Official DFW Nerd #148 :D
    Debt level @ highest (May 2004): £15000 :eek: Debt level @ August 2006: £9591.53
    Lightbulb moment May 2006 :idea:
  • well, I filled in the online budget planner on this site and I apparently have £370 per month spare!!! I just don't understand why there is so much spare and I don't see it. We don't spend on booze or fags, very rarely go to maccy d's or anywhere like that, don't really 'do' coffee in town either. This doesn't even take into account any of the over time my boyf does, as we were advised by CAB not to include overtime if it is not guaranteed. When he does do overtime, he can bring home up to £500, but a flat week is £256 net. We are currently getting both tax credits, but will lose these in April because he has just got promo, although we will still get some CTC. Get £110 child benefit and £300 maintenance off ex. For where we live and our age, we are on a good wage, but it just doesn't seem to feel like we have anything.

    Will def get down to a statement of affairs tonight. £370 per month going astray is almost as much as our rent!!!
    Official DFW Nerd #148 :D
    Debt level @ highest (May 2004): £15000 :eek: Debt level @ August 2006: £9591.53
    Lightbulb moment May 2006 :idea:
  • As you say, now that you find you ought to have money spare, you need to find where its going! Probably the best idea is to keep a spending diary for a couple of weeks, where you note down every penny that you spend. This will show up where that money is going. Your partner also needs to do the same.

    Feel free to post your budget details, we may be able to help you save even more.

    Good Luck!
    He huihuinga taangata he pukenga whakaaro – A meeting of people; a wellspring of ideas (Maori proverb)
  • Malestrom wrote:
    As you say, now that you find you ought to have money spare, you need to find where its going! Probably the best idea is to keep a spending diary for a couple of weeks, where you note down every penny that you spend. This will show up where that money is going. Your partner also needs to do the same.

    Feel free to post your budget details, we may be able to help you save even more.

    Good Luck!

    he he he, he only gets £10 per week for dinner money!!!! I control all the other finances as he hasn't got a clue with it all!!!! We have a joint account but he never takes his wallet out, so anything that does get spent is all down to me. I've only myself to blame!!!!
    Official DFW Nerd #148 :D
    Debt level @ highest (May 2004): £15000 :eek: Debt level @ August 2006: £9591.53
    Lightbulb moment May 2006 :idea:
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