BW Legal - No parking fine letters received

holly_p · 11 March 2017 at 12:20PM

Hi

I don't know if anyone will be able to help me.

Basically I have received a letter from BW Legal stating that Vehicle Control Services Limited have instructed them to collect a balance for a PCN, currently £160. However, this is the first I have heard about this fine as I moved address. I sent off my log book to change the address but after having contacted DVLA it was never received and therefore my old address was what they must of sent the PCN's to, I have requested a new log book at the cost of £25. My licence was correct with my new address so I have attempted to change both. BW Legal somehow had my new address and have basically said it is my fault and nothing can be done. I have asked for copies of the original PCN's to check the address. If I'd of had the letters to the correct address the driver would of paid within the set time or appealed but wasn't given the chance to.

Any advice?

Half_way · 11 March 2017 at 12:28PM

First question, you say you would have paid within the set time limit, what do you mean by this?
did you fail to pay in a pay and display car park, and the amount you say you would have paid would have been the advertised rate ( ie £1.50/hour)?

Do you know where/whos car park this was?

holly_p · 11 March 2017 at 1:00PM

Yes but as it was late at night in November signs weren't noticed and it was assumed that it was a council carpark where it was free after 6pm (drivers mistake). The car park is Smyth Street in Wakefield, and is now £4.50 for a full day.

Normally with a fine you receive a PCN letter stating to pay around £60 within 28 days or are given the chance to appeal.

Half_way · 11 March 2017 at 1:58PM

You should take a read of the sticky thread, as get an understanding of the difference between a fine and a parking charge notice.

How long ago was the original charge issued?

holly_p · 11 March 2017 at 3:30PM

I know that technically it's not a fine, it's more of a penalty, is that correct?

And it happened November 2016.

Lamilad · 11 March 2017 at 5:01PM

holly_p wrote: »

I know that technically it's not a fine, it's more of a penalty, is that correct?

Well unofficially it's a penalty. Officially it's a charge for parking when parked other than in accordance with the terms and conditions offered by the signage.

Only proper authorities such as the courts or police can issue fines/ penalties. Private companies/individuals can only give you an invoice. That's what you've received - a speculative invoice!

pappa_golf · 11 March 2017 at 5:08PM

I actually wonder if this is nov 2016?

the timing inc the involvement of (probably) DR+ seems very fast

OP , please can you answer the following
1: date (you think) incident took place
2: date you moved from your old house

more questions will follow

holly_p · 11 March 2017 at 6:26PM

It was around the 28th November 2016.
Keeper moved house August 2016.

pappa_golf · 11 March 2017 at 6:36PM

ticket issued
It was around the 28th November 2016.
VCS write to you 10-14 days , giving you 28 days to reply

this takes it to early jan they then pass it on to DR+ (etc) who then write several times , over a couple of mths timespan , then to zenith (2 mths again ) , who then hand it back to vcs , who contact BW

I still suspect this is a historic claim (5-6 yrs ago?)

have you had sight of the ticket ?

holly_p · 11 March 2017 at 9:32PM

Keeper has only had the car since July 2016 and is the first owner. the Keeper never received tickets or letters as they sent them to the wrong address. Keeper got the BW legal letter as they said they got the keeper's correct address through something along the lines of equifax, not sure if that's the right one. Keeper has asked for proof of postage from them and have asked for copies of all letters they've sent the keeper as keeper has never received anything.

beamerguy · 11 March 2017 at 10:03PM

holly_p wrote: »

I've only had the car since July 2016 and I am the first owner. The only time I've ever parked there was November 2016. I've never received tickets or letters as they sent them to the wrong address. I've got the BW legal letter as they said they got my correct address through something along the lines of equifax, not sure if that's the right one. I've asked for proof of postage from them and have asked for copies of all letters they've sent me as I've never received anything.

Equifax and similar are credit reference agencies so which company did they state ?
How would they match your new address with your reg number if not via the DVLA ?

BWLegal's failure to provide information is in your favour if it goes to court as they have to prove their claim

The courts have got wise to BWLegal now

PS ... could you please edit the header to BWLegal so others with similar problems can relate to.
You do this using advance edit

BW Legal - No parking fine letters received

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