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    • oliniusz
    • By oliniusz 10th Nov 17, 11:38 PM
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    oliniusz
    Anything wrong with that house?
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    • 10th Nov 17, 11:38 PM
    Anything wrong with that house? 10th Nov 17 at 11:38 PM
    I'd like to be on a safe side and will ask for an objective opinion about that semi-detached house: rightmove /property-for-sale/property-65683709.html, previously rightmove house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=41600617&sale=83440245&co untry=england . Apologies, I can't publish links yet.

    It's UB5 4DT, 59 Greenacre Close

    I can see it's been renovated nicely, it ticks lots of must-haves on my list, it has a garden, parking, no neighbours above, quiet area etc. It has been listed since April though and the price has been reduced already.

    I'm worried also about the cracks on the external wall, visible on the picture. They look the same in reality when I went there and checked. Do you guys think it's more like a cosmetic issue or is there something worse happening with the structure itself? I'm going for a view tomorrow morning, Saturday, and will decide the next steps after.

    Is there anything you would ask about the house? If all happens to be good and I decide to make an offer one day, how much could I ask for? It's currently 350k.

    I appreciate any feedback, I'm rather not a pro and would like to make a wise decision here
    Last edited by oliniusz; 10-11-2017 at 11:40 PM.
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    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 11th Nov 17, 3:15 PM
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    Red-Squirrel
    A lot of people aren't intelligent enough to realise that although a job in London pays more than it does in other parts of the country the pay doesn't mean that it makes it affordable for them to live in London.
    Originally posted by Cakeguts
    Indeed. A family member of mine was offered a substantial pay rise to relocate to London (nearly double), but when they started looking for somewhere to live they realised that it still wasn't going to be enough to give them the same quality of life they already had where they were, nevermind any better!
    • zagubov
    • By zagubov 11th Nov 17, 3:19 PM
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    zagubov
    Most people I know in London are seriously wondering how their kids will ever afford to stay there and ever buy, not just the kind of home that people in the rest of the UK might reasonably aspire to, but any kind of home at all.
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
    • Fed
    • By Fed 11th Nov 17, 3:39 PM
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    Fed
    Perhaps the OP likes living in the vicinity of London and what it has to offer?

    Otherwise they could sell up and live somewhere in Asia, the deposit would go a lot further than anywhere in the UK
    • oliniusz
    • By oliniusz 11th Nov 17, 5:50 PM
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    oliniusz
    Thanks for the comments, I appreciate them. I don't like London, it's just that the IT sector I work in is virtually centred in the city.

    I used to live in Tamworth, Staffordshire, which I remember as kind of posh and now when I compare the lower prices there to this area my heart cries. I also lived in Slough before which looked chav-ish at least the same if not more and the prices have gone there up too.

    Ealing, even though I like the area to the north of Ealing Broadway, prices there are not in my range for now so I need to find something further away with still a good distance to a tube station. The thing is I want a private garden, a parking space and no neighbours around/above as I'm fed up of years of renting other's places where I can hear a neighbour above doing some jogging exercises or living in a 11 person smelly house with nobody giving a single monkey about some basic level of care. I have missed a loved home.

    I went there today and I must say the owners took off everything they could before the works, I couldn't spot a single thing inside not renovated. No cracks inside but everything was repainted so hard to tell.

    No smell of damp anywhere at all, no mould, it's clean and dry below a sink and around the window frames; windows and doors look not worn and good.

    Owners are no smokers and have replaced all:
    - heaters are new, together with a new boiler that replaced an old, loud one located on the top floor,
    - classy sinks, taps, a bath,
    - nicely adapted loft even with a carpet laid out,
    - new kitchen furniture,
    - in the loft I saw grey-ish external bricks around all three walls and although the owner lady didn't know its age it hasn't looked old; insulation was there and the tiles looked good,
    - the garden looks like it does as they didn't get enough of time to take care of it, fair enough.

    In overall, they had put a lot of work there by themselves within less than two years of living there and now they're thinking about a bigger place for them, especially the male owner. She is less inclined to leave, I feel. That means they might be quite emotionally attached to it and it will be hard to have the price reduced. Definitely I like it was put lots of love into it though.

    I asked the agent directly later about other people looking at the property and she mentioned another person being interested. I actually told her very lousily I might offer the price 20k lower when she told me she could check with her manager if a similar offer wasn't already rejected before.

    @getmore4less, not sure what about those coniferous trees? I actually like the idea of having some of them behind a shelter and they don't make such a mess like poplar ones for example.

    I asked a neighbour walking with a dog if he liked that place and if he would buy a house there, he said he had lived there for 30 years, he described the area as nice, quiet. That was also my impression when observing people when wandering and driving around, I saw everybody, white natives, Asians, Eastern Europeans... they all were calm and OK. Cars around pretty decent.

    Ok, I have realised I'm now writing all that stuff probably more for myself than actually asking for anything more but hopefully it's not a pain to read it

    I wouldn't mind having that house but we will see how it goes from here, I don't also need it and I don't want to overpay it.

    Seems really overpriced compared to what's under offer / sold.
    I know it's been made over but one within half a mile of this one is under offer and was on at 300k. Improvements won't be worth the extra 50k price tag
    Originally posted by Debtslayer
    Thanks for checking, I can see some nice two bedroom maisonettes for much cheaper, it makes the price more questionable.

    The premium on London property is much higher than the premium on wages.
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    A lot of people aren't intelligent enough to realise that although a job in London pays more than it does in other parts of the country the pay doesn't mean that it makes it affordable for them to live in London.
    Originally posted by Cakeguts
    I can't disagree with you guys, London itself, an hour long commuting, dusty and hot Central Line - you can take it all and I won't miss it
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 11th Nov 17, 6:37 PM
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    Cakeguts
    Have they taken a wall out between the kitchen and the living area? Is this what is causing the cracking?
    • oliniusz
    • By oliniusz 11th Nov 17, 8:11 PM
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    oliniusz
    I doubt it is the case, they took that arc like entrance out but I can see the same cracks on the neighbour's side too:
    - photos.app.goo.gl/vgJHcwzWFTTQKd073

    and that's on my side:
    - photos.app.goo.gl/LURhY9v5hAjPHB0n2

    I have checked on the loft and the bricks look pretty decent (0:17):
    - photos.app.goo.gl/QumAIBsI5Ck0ZNHq1

    Here is a full album shared, if anybody was interested you are welcome to check:
    photos.app.goo.gl/MFECheZWbV5tUBuo2
    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 11th Nov 17, 10:02 PM
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    ProDave
    I tried to look at your photo's and my browser told me:

    "This Connection is Untrusted

    You have asked Pale Moon to connect securely to www.photos.app.goo.gl, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.

    Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.
    What Should I Do?

    If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue."
    • zagubov
    • By zagubov 11th Nov 17, 10:06 PM
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    zagubov
    I've seen a few developments of cluster houses like that in London. They have advantages over flats in that you've no upstairs neighbours. There's no chance of a freehold owner building a new flat above you (mentioned on another thread).

    You might get a garden/courtyard/patio. I can only imagine the only reason there aren't more of them is that there's not much new land for building on in London.
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 12th Nov 17, 12:55 AM
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    ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    Indeed. A family member of mine was offered a substantial pay rise to relocate to London (nearly double), but when they started looking for somewhere to live they realised that it still wasn't going to be enough to give them the same quality of life they already had where they were, nevermind any better!
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    Well it needs to be more, then. I know that in my sector plenty of people on about 60K in London apply to us thinking they can get 40K, and they are nowhere near close to being worth that, in this area. I know I could easily get double my current salary in London but I still wouldn't want to.
    • oliniusz
    • By oliniusz 12th Nov 17, 9:01 AM
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    oliniusz
    I tried to look at your photo's and my browser told me:
    "This Connection is Untrusted
    Originally posted by ProDave
    Ouch, shame I can't post links yet. Probably your browser added www automatically because I've just checked on mine and it parsed it as https://photos.app.goo.gl, without www. Thanks for checking, by the way.

    Let me try if I can post the links like that for now:

    cracks on the neighbour's side:
    Code:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vgJHcwzWFTTQKd073
    cracks on my side:
    Code:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/LURhY9v5hAjPHB0n2
    the bricks as visible from the loft (0:17):
    Code:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/QumAIBsI5Ck0ZNHq1
    full album shared, you are welcome to check:
    Code:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/MFECheZWbV5tUBuo2
    • jimbog
    • By jimbog 12th Nov 17, 9:11 AM
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    jimbog
    Try these:

    cracks on the neighbour's side:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vgJHcwzWFTTQKd073

    cracks on my side:

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/LURhY9v5hAjPHB0n2

    the bricks as visible from the loft (0:17):

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/QumAIBsI5Ck0ZNHq1

    full album shared, you are welcome to check:

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/MFECheZWbV5tUBuo2
    Last edited by jimbog; 12-11-2017 at 9:14 AM.
    The problem with quotations on the internet is that you can never verify their authenticity - Abraham Lincoln
    • oliniusz
    • By oliniusz 12th Nov 17, 9:21 AM
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    oliniusz
    I can only imagine the only reason there aren't more of them is that there's not much new land for building on in London.
    Originally posted by zagubov
    They would rather split any available space here into shoe boxes and rent them as lovely studio flats for professionals located in an exclusive area

    Well it needs to be more, then. I know that in my sector plenty of people on about 60K in London apply to us thinking they can get 40K, and they are nowhere near close to being worth that, in this area. I know I could easily get double my current salary in London but I still wouldn't want to.
    Originally posted by ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    Kind of like catch 22 to me, all the IT sector and fintech startups want to operate in London as you have resources there and all the people need to work there as that is where you have the jobs located.

    I go sometimes to Birmingham to visit my friends and you can feel it's a different England there.
    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 12th Nov 17, 9:33 AM
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    ProDave
    I have had a look at hose photos.

    I would say there is a problem with the lintels over the downstairs door and window openings, and the brickwork above the openings is sagging.

    I am not a surveyor, but I would expect a proper repair to be new lintels, the blockwork above re laid and the render re done. Many £thousands. A cheaper repair may be just to re point the blockwork and monitor the situation for further movement with no guarantee that it would do any good and might just defer a proper repair.

    I would walk away. It would not surprise me to find this is an issue that would force a lender to put a retention on the mortgage. I think this is something the vendoe should fix.

    If you still want to go ahead, get a builder to estimate for replacing the lintels nd re doing the blockwork and youe offer should be no more than market value (when repaired) less cost of repair.
    • jimbog
    • By jimbog 12th Nov 17, 11:48 AM
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    jimbog
    With all the properties available in that part of London it puzzles me why you would be interested in a property which is a headache already
    The problem with quotations on the internet is that you can never verify their authenticity - Abraham Lincoln
    • oliniusz
    • By oliniusz 12th Nov 17, 1:20 PM
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    oliniusz
    I need to sit back and digest it all but I'm thankful for all the info from you guys.

    I'm still looking for other houses too. If I filter for +1 bed semidetached or terraced house up to 350k to find a property in a close proximity to a tube / train station then the options are getting sparse.

    Probably I will need to include maisonettes and flats to have a better choice but I'd like to exclude shared freeholds, noisy neighbours above/around a bedroom and no garden.

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/map.html?minBedrooms=1&propertyTypes=detached%2Cse mi-detached%2Cterraced&channel=BUY&index=0&primaryDis playPropertyType=houses&retirement=false&includeSS TC=false&partBuyPartRent=false&sortType=2&viewType =MAP&maxPrice=350000&radius=5.0&numberOfProperties PerPage=24&propFeature=Garden&propFeature=Parking& locationIdentifier=STATION%5E3023
    • Crashy Time
    • By Crashy Time 12th Nov 17, 1:52 PM
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    Crashy Time
    Most people I know in London are seriously wondering how their kids will ever afford to stay there and ever buy, not just the kind of home that people in the rest of the UK might reasonably aspire to, but any kind of home at all.
    Originally posted by zagubov

    Have they only just twigged (pardon the pun)? The OP house is massively over-priced IMO.
    • oliniusz
    • By oliniusz 12th Nov 17, 5:28 PM
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    oliniusz
    Now I can see how overpriced mine is.. Compare to that one (under offer currently):
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-48489393.html
    And once again the one I've been looking at:
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-65683709.html
    I have the feeling mine is not going to be sold as they bought it for 294k two years ago and invested much in it.
    • Margot123
    • By Margot123 12th Nov 17, 6:46 PM
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    Margot123
    What on Earth is 'demised parking'???? Makes it sound like the driveway has fallen down a crater.
    • Crashy Time
    • By Crashy Time 12th Nov 17, 8:37 PM
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    Crashy Time
    What on Earth is 'demised parking'???? Makes it sound like the driveway has fallen down a crater.
    Originally posted by Margot123

    Funeral parlour next door?
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 13th Nov 17, 3:34 PM
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    lincroft1710
    What on Earth is 'demised parking'????
    Originally posted by Margot123
    A parking space transferred by lease
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