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Old 24-10-2012, 3:46 PM
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you realise the 2nd one is irrelevant?
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Old 24-10-2012, 4:49 PM
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why is the second one irrelevant?
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Old 24-10-2012, 5:02 PM
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why is the second one irrelevant?
The second sticker is also relevant - it can serve as a reminder to the Postal Delivery worker that a household has opted out of Royal Mail's junk mail...

http://www.royalmail.com/you-home/controlling-your-mail
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Old 24-10-2012, 5:06 PM
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The second sticker is also relevant - it can serve as a reminder to the Postal Delivery worker that a household has opted out of Royal Mail's junk mail...

http://www.royalmail.com/you-home/controlling-your-mail
So its irrelevant on its own you mean?
So in context,you need to add a link to the opt out,not simply an image
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Old 24-10-2012, 5:27 PM
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I used to be a postie BUT I have to say the Royal Mail have become a pathetic joke here in Somerset.

Deliveries being made at all times of the day.
First class packets taking 5 days to deliver.
Can't pick up packets from Delivery Office for 24 hours from delivery attempt.
No space for clients in Delivery Office car park as it's full of shiny new RM vans.

Surprisingly, they managed to get 6 leaflets through the door today.

God help us at Crimbo.....
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Old 26-10-2012, 6:33 PM
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Default Stickers have Arrived!

Four weeks to the day after ordering a sticker, it has finally arrived along with seven others that I have ordered over the past 4 weeks.

The stickers are slightly different in design now with black lettering, rather than the red lettering used during the trials.

Must say the sticker is rather too discreet and could easily be missed, especially as the label is the same colour as my door (white). With post now being delivered as late as 5pm, postal workers won't even be able to see the sticker once the clocks go back next month!
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Good to hear, I requested another 10th October as my current one is fading fast.
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Good to hear, I requested another 10th October as my current one is fading fast.
I am happy to forward a copy to you - I have 7 spare ones!
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"Royal Mail is now allowed to leave certain items with a neighbour when consumers are not at home to receive them ..."

Read the full story:


It was'nt really news was it.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...5883&highlight=
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Old 01-11-2012, 9:38 PM
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It was news because Royal Mail only got the green light by Ofcom on 27th September to go ahead with the scheme. The MSE article announcing that green light, could not have happened before the Ofcom statement!
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Old 02-11-2012, 9:46 PM
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I have finally received my sticker for the mail box from Royal Mail. Looks like I'm the only person in the whole street that have it. That shows how unsociable individual I am
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I have finally received my sticker for the mail box from Royal Mail. Looks like I'm the only person in the whole street that have it. That shows how unsociable individual I am
Most people don't even know the scheme exists. I rang Postcomm after the scheme started and even they didn't know.

To date, I have received 20 opt-out stickers. I am still waiting for about another 80! It took 4 weeks from the time of ordering to when the first one arrived.
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Old 03-11-2012, 2:48 PM
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I got mine yesterday too.
One I have is fading fast, hope this one is more up to the job.
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I got mine yesterday too.
One I have is fading fast, hope this one is more up to the job.
Any difference between old and new stickers you have? The older ones I have seen have red writing over three lines. The newer ones have black writing over 2 lines.
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I have my sticker too. Its very small and white with black writing. I do not think the postie will notice it on my white door.

On a by-note, I noticed that the posties (Royal Mail and the other delivery services) do what they want. I found a couple of packages from Amazon placed behind my bins, totally wet and must have been there for a couple of days as I did not see them coming home in the dark. and a delivery service chucked a package over the fence again. At least they left a notice that its in the garden. Luckily it was wrapped in plastic.
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Old 04-12-2012, 9:01 PM
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Our Postman is too busy to be bothered trying to leave mail with neighbours, our post arrives mid afternoon, they seem to have cut right back and I feel sorry for him trudging round in all weathers. There tracking system is a joke and the only way I can be sure I get a urgent package delivered is to wait in.
I have now been waiting four days for one.
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Reading all the posts had me laughing and cringing in turns. However, apart from the hassle of trying to get your post from some unknown neightbour (oh, you live there do you!), what about the contract you have with your supplier.
You pay a sum (and some are quite high) to have a parcel delivered to your address unless specified otherwise. For the RM to now say they are going to hand the parcel to someone else at another address, is in effect rending the contract with your supplier null and void. Should we now demand a lower price for delivery from suppliers, given that the parcel(s) may now not be delivered to us?
And surely does the RM not also have a contract with the suppliers to deliver the parcels to the address written on them and not to some other.
There have over the last few years new companies that have appeared, that for a small fee will take delivery of your parcels and then notify you of a delivery whereby you can then collect it at a time to suit you. However, what happens when that office is closed for lunch, having a fire drill, closed for holidays etc. do all those parcels get handed to a neighbouring office/property? One hopes not.
If you accept a contract to deliver an item to a particular address, then that contract has to be completed; end of story.

Why of why, hasn't the RM got to grips with the 21st century and started texting or emailing addresses to let them know that there is a parcel coming. You could then let them know when it is convenient or make arrangements to be in, still letting RM know. This doesn't have to man mananged (sorry, ladies also). The info could be stamped automatically on the package when scanned. The software and hardware justs needs to be updated. This in the long run would be much cheaper. No wasted man (& ladies) hours, and no delivering to a wrong address. Of course there will cases whereby you have an emergency but surely texting the info directly to a contact number, the data could be updated to the post(wo)man whilst either on their rounds or just prior. The technology is available, it just seems that the RM doesn't want to spend the money to use it. However, with time marching on, eventually they will have to. Otherwise, the time will come when items of post, be it parcels or just ordinary mail will no longer be available for them to deliver. And then another company bites the dust! Either get on board with technology or disappear!
Their current system is archaic and not in keeping with what is available today.
I wonder if there has been any recent time and motion study on the whole of the RM operations? It would be interesting to read, I think!
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Reading all the posts had me laughing and cringing in turns. However, apart from the hassle of trying to get your post from some unknown neightbour (oh, you live there do you!), what about the contract you have with your supplier.
You pay a sum (and some are quite high) to have a parcel delivered to your address unless specified otherwise. For the RM to now say they are going to hand the parcel to someone else at another address, is in effect rending the contract with your supplier null and void. Should we now demand a lower price for delivery from suppliers, given that the parcel(s) may now not be delivered to us?
And surely does the RM not also have a contract with the suppliers to deliver the parcels to the address written on them and not to some other.
There have over the last few years new companies that have appeared, that for a small fee will take delivery of your parcels and then notify you of a delivery whereby you can then collect it at a time to suit you. However, what happens when that office is closed for lunch, having a fire drill, closed for holidays etc. do all those parcels get handed to a neighbouring office/property? One hopes not.
If you accept a contract to deliver an item to a particular address, then that contract has to be completed; end of story.

Why of why, hasn't the RM got to grips with the 21st century and started texting or emailing addresses to let them know that there is a parcel coming. You could then let them know when it is convenient or make arrangements to be in, still letting RM know. This doesn't have to man mananged (sorry, ladies also). The info could be stamped automatically on the package when scanned. The software and hardware justs needs to be updated. This in the long run would be much cheaper. No wasted man (& ladies) hours, and no delivering to a wrong address. Of course there will cases whereby you have an emergency but surely texting the info directly to a contact number, the data could be updated to the post(wo)man whilst either on their rounds or just prior. The technology is available, it just seems that the RM doesn't want to spend the money to use it. However, with time marching on, eventually they will have to. Otherwise, the time will come when items of post, be it parcels or just ordinary mail will no longer be available for them to deliver. And then another company bites the dust! Either get on board with technology or disappear!
Their current system is archaic and not in keeping with what is available today.
I wonder if there has been any recent time and motion study on the whole of the RM operations? It would be interesting to read, I think!

They have,its called Royal Mail Tracked. its been in use by RM for years now
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Old 28-12-2012, 9:17 PM
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The leave with neighbour scheme is a cheap excuse so Royal Mail don`t have to extend the opening hours in the depot/callers office.
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Reading all the posts had me laughing and cringing in turns. However, apart from the hassle of trying to get your post from some unknown neightbour (oh, you live there do you!), what about the contract you have with your supplier.
You pay a sum (and some are quite high) to have a parcel delivered to your address unless specified otherwise. For the RM to now say they are going to hand the parcel to someone else at another address, is in effect rending the contract with your supplier null and void. Should we now demand a lower price for delivery from suppliers, given that the parcel(s) may now not be delivered to us?
And surely does the RM not also have a contract with the suppliers to deliver the parcels to the address written on them and not to some other.
There have over the last few years new companies that have appeared, that for a small fee will take delivery of your parcels and then notify you of a delivery whereby you can then collect it at a time to suit you. However, what happens when that office is closed for lunch, having a fire drill, closed for holidays etc. do all those parcels get handed to a neighbouring office/property? One hopes not.
If you accept a contract to deliver an item to a particular address, then that contract has to be completed; end of story.

Why of why, hasn't the RM got to grips with the 21st century and started texting or emailing addresses to let them know that there is a parcel coming. You could then let them know when it is convenient or make arrangements to be in, still letting RM know. This doesn't have to man mananged (sorry, ladies also). The info could be stamped automatically on the package when scanned. The software and hardware justs needs to be updated. This in the long run would be much cheaper. No wasted man (& ladies) hours, and no delivering to a wrong address. Of course there will cases whereby you have an emergency but surely texting the info directly to a contact number, the data could be updated to the post(wo)man whilst either on their rounds or just prior. The technology is available, it just seems that the RM doesn't want to spend the money to use it. However, with time marching on, eventually they will have to. Otherwise, the time will come when items of post, be it parcels or just ordinary mail will no longer be available for them to deliver. And then another company bites the dust! Either get on board with technology or disappear!
Their current system is archaic and not in keeping with what is available today.
I wonder if there has been any recent time and motion study on the whole of the RM operations? It would be interesting to read, I think!

Royal Mail will be testing a system similar to usps tracking next year.
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