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Can you work while on Jsa
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Old 14-04-2009, 5:03 PM
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Default Can you work while on Jsa

What work can you do while on JSA?

How does it affect it?
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Old 14-04-2009, 5:26 PM
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Yes you can but you're only allowed to keep £5 of it, the rest gets deducted from your JSA £1 for £1.
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What work can you do while on JSA?

How does it affect it?

JSA = Job Seekers Allowance

If you're working then you're not exactly job seeking. And if you are working and claiming JSA then it's called Benefit Fraud.
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JSA = Job Seekers Allowance

If you're working then you're not exactly job seeking. And if you are working and claiming JSA then it's called Benefit Fraud.
Not exactly true ....you're allowed to work 16 hrs or less and still claim JSA..
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What work can you do while on JSA?

How does it affect it?
Its called working casual. Cash in hand.
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Its called working casual. Cash in hand.
Now that is fraud, the op could get in to alot of trouble and made to pay their benefits back.
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Old 14-04-2009, 7:23 PM
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You must declare ANY work you do, be it voluntary or paid.
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Not exactly true ....you're allowed to work 16 hrs or less and still claim JSA..

Actually your statement is not true and you'd be suprised by how many get caught with the 16 hour rule.

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If you are working 15 hours a week and earning £10 an hour you'd be earning £150.00 less tax etc. So why would you think you'd receive JSA on top of earning £150.00 a week.

I work in benefit fraud and this is the question they throw at you if you plead the 16 hour rule.

If you're earning over 16 hours then you claim WTC
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Actually your statement is not true and you'd be suprised by how many get caught with the 16 hour rule.

example

If you are working 15 hours a week and earning £10 an hour you'd be earning £150.00 less tax etc. So why would you think you'd receive JSA on top of earning £150.00 a week.

I work in benefit fraud and this is the question they throw at you if you plead the 16 hour rule.

If you're earning over 16 hours then you claim WTC
As far as I aware you can work 16 hours or less and anything you earn is taken into consideration when caculating the benefit amount......this is why I assume that I have had to provide copies of my wage slip every week since I started claimed. Presumably if I earned anything over the JSA entitlement then I would only get my contributions made up.

Or have I been given incorrect information?
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As far as I aware you can work 16 hours or less and anything you earn is taken into consideration when caculating the benefit amount......this is why I assume that I have had to provide copies of my wage slip every week since I started claimed. Presumably if I earned anything over the JSA entitlement then I would only get my contributions made up.

Or have I been given incorrect information?

Pretty much correct except that it's less than 16 hours, not 16 hours or less.
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Its called working casual. Cash in hand.
And that is theft - of my hard earned money that I have to pay in tax to keep people like you! You make me sick and give people who are not playing the system a bad name.
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Actually your statement is not true and you'd be suprised by how many get caught with the 16 hour rule.

example

If you are working 15 hours a week and earning £10 an hour you'd be earning £150.00 less tax etc. So why would you think you'd receive JSA on top of earning £150.00 a week.

I work in benefit fraud and this is the question they throw at you if you plead the 16 hour rule.

If you're earning over 16 hours then you claim WTC
I think you need to read the rule book!
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And that is theft - of my hard earned money that I have to pay in tax to keep people like you! You make me sick and give people who are not playing the system a bad name.
That's so mean. You've no idea if the poster is playing the system, they just asked a simple question. Geez :rolleyes:
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I think what Ms Money Penny meant was that in IUCs customers tend to use the under 16 hour rule as an excuse - that they thought they could work under 16 hours without declaring it. But of course, we all know that one must declare any work.
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I think you need to read the rule book!

So you think it's okay for someone to earn £150.00 a week plus claim jsa .

Will phone Jobcentre tomorrow and make an appointment and go part time then and claim my £60.50 JSA a week. sorted.
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So you think it's okay for someone to earn £150.00 a week plus claim jsa .

Will phone Jobcentre tomorrow and make an appointment and go part time then and claim my £60.50 JSA a week. sorted.
Eh?

You said you worked in benefit fraud a moment ago? You should know the rules!
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So you think it's okay for someone to earn £150.00 a week plus claim jsa .

Will phone Jobcentre tomorrow and make an appointment and go part time then and claim my £60.50 JSA a week. sorted.
Any money earned above the first £5 gets taken off your JSA, so you could in theory sign on but you wouldn't get any money off them.

I recently signed on for the first time after being made redundant from my day job (9-5 office work). I also have a 2nd job working less than 16 hours in a shop in the evenings. I am able to claim JSA but am only entitled to just over £12 per week as they take off the £52 I earn in the shop.

I am still classed as being a job seeker as I am seeking another full-time day job and I also get my NI paid.


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That's so mean. You've no idea if the poster is playing the system, they just asked a simple question. Geez :rolleyes:
If you read the post correctly you will see I was replying to another post who suggested working cash in hand.

Geez - read before you post
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And that is theft - of my hard earned money that I have to pay in tax to keep people like you! You make me sick and give people who are not playing the system a bad name.

people like me? I pay more tax than you see in a year. Tit.
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Actually your statement is not true and you'd be suprised by how many get caught with the 16 hour rule.

example

If you are working 15 hours a week and earning £10 an hour you'd be earning £150.00 less tax etc. So why would you think you'd receive JSA on top of earning £150.00 a week.

I work in benefit fraud and this is the question they throw at you if you plead the 16 hour rule.

If you're earning over 16 hours then you claim WTC
Surely you are talking about people who do not declare it though? The OP as far as we know may be offered a few hours and want to take them to enable them to get more work in the future.

People tend to forget that the job centre also has a responsibility to assist people into employment and that people often use it as such a resource until they find full time permanent employment.
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