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LoopyLinz
Old 04-03-2009, 2:21 PM
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Hi All

Just looking for some advice really. I have received a letter today telling me that a doctor will visit next Thursday. I have applied for DLA as I suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis and am currently off work (have been since beginning of November)

Can anyone tell me what I should expect from this visit?

Thanks
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Old 04-03-2009, 3:52 PM
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Hi Linz,

I will give you a clue.....you have to be on your deathbed. good luck for thursday xx
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Old 04-03-2009, 5:01 PM
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Lol Dee..........you have made feel so much better! lol
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Old 04-03-2009, 5:18 PM
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DLA Tip 6. Dealing with ‘detective’ doctors‏
From: <img id="P___669604149" style="display: none;" webimdisplaystyle="inline"> Benefits and Work (tech@benefitsandwork.co.uk)






Dear *****,

Imagine it.

You’ve made a claim for DLA and a doctor has come to do a
medical. Halfway through he says ‘I just need to have a quick look
around to see what aids or adaptations you might need’ and
disappears up the stairs.

What is he really doing?

In fact, the doctor is doing two things.

The first is answering a question in the medical report which asks the
doctor to ‘Describe any features of the current accommodation that
cause increased problems for the customer e.g. upstairs toilet, steep
steps.’

The second is, in accordance with his training, checking to see if you
are ‘genuinely living the life of a disabled person’.

He will be hunting for: things which he considers do – or don’t - fit
in with your claimed level of disability, which he can include as
evidence in his report. Unfortunately, this seems to turn some doctors
into amateur detectives: they discover ‘clues’ which they consider
significant and write them up in their report without giving you the
opportunity to give any evidence about them first..

For example, do you have an inhaler on a high shelf and covered in dust,
looking as if it hasn’t been used, rather than in easy reach of where
you’re sitting?

Does the walking stick in the hall have an unmarked and unworn
rubber ferrule on the bottom?

Of course, there may be very good explanations for these things: the
inhaler is a spare one, you keep the one you use in your pocket at all
times and the rubber on your walking stick is new because the old one
wore out.

However, the amateur detective doctor may write these things in their report
without ever asking you about them and the decision maker will accept his
evidence without question. Both of these incorrect assumptions have led to
Benefits and Work members having their claims turned down, requiring them
to go to tribunal before they were awarded the benefits to which they were
entitled.

So, one thing you can do to prepare for a doctor’s visit is take a look
around and put right anything that might be misinterpreted. For
example, remove the dusty inhaler, or put it where you can reach it.

Another thing you can do is explain to the doctor, before he even
notices, the reason for the new rubber on your walking stick.

If the doctor does say they wish to look round your home, it’s worth
asking them what they are looking for and requesting that they tell
you about anything they see which they consider significant.

You could, of course, refuse them permission to look around your
house. But the doctor will make a note of this and adverse
conclusions may be drawn by a decision maker or tribunal as a result.

So, being prepared is probably the best strategy.

Our guides tell you in detail what happens at a medical and what
questions you may be asked. We also provide you with a copy of the
medical report form that will be used by the doctor. In addition, we tell
you how to prevent the DWP giving you unfairly short notice of a visit
and how to deal with doctors who turn up early or late.

We also provide you with a Medical Visit Record Sheet so that you
have persuasive evidence if you wish to complain about, or challenge
the result of, your medical.

Don't get caught out by unfair tactics. Make sure you’re prepared
for a doctor’s visit. Find out more about becoming a Benefits and
Work member and getting instant access to all our step-by-step DLA
guides and other materials from:

http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/content/view/881/122/

Tomorrow, we’ll look at three ways to improve your chances at a
tribunal.

Good luck,
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Old 04-03-2009, 5:22 PM
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Hi we have had two doctors visit for dla purposes and on both occasions they did not have a look around our home. Maybe they were not nosy enough, lol .
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Old 04-03-2009, 5:45 PM
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Have someone else with you, if possible, for moral support and as a help if you find out that the doctor has written something you don't think happened.

Don't make a special effort to sit up and concentrate while he's there if that isn't what you can do usually. If you normally have to have your feet up, or lie down after a while, then do that.

If he wants to have a chat about things before official questions get going, he's not being social. Everything you talk about will be used as evidence.
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Old 04-03-2009, 5:46 PM
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Sorry Mum of Twins but that is unneccessary scare mongering.

I have been on the receiving end of a DLA medical, and at no point did anyone poke around in my home to see if they could find any 'clues' that I might be lying.

What they did was fill out another DLA form by asking me the questions on it and writing in my answers. I was then asked to go outside and walk as far as I could before the pain kicked in. I was then asked to go up to the bedroom where she gave me a brief physical examination. No-one attempted to go in any other room or so much as have a look in any other room.

Loopylinz, if you have RA then they're going to be looking at how far advanced the condition is. Do not, ever, just give straight yes or no answers to the questions. Always qualify - yes, but not without difficulty/pain, etc. Try to explain how you go about certain tasks, and do be sure that the doc doesn't paraphrase what you say.

The doc should read your answers back to you - if you don't agree with what has been written, ask them to amend them. Don't sign the form until you are happy with what is written.

Good luck.
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doctor poked around my house ! asked about aids i had to help me, then looked for them in the rooms ! wanted to do a medical there and then aswell , i stood up put legs together and fell over ( i knew that would happen ) but he wanted to see ! said ooo your got very bad balance and helped me to chair and then gave up and said would see him self out ! did'nt sign anything either , just be honest they check what you have written on the form . i was scared to death before, but he was nice to talk to and put me at ease
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when I had my DLA medical he didn't look around my house; promise

I would have someone close to you there; ALL the way through; don't let the Dr do anything to you alone; then get the person with you primed to correct you when you do what most long term disabled do and underplay

If you are really frightened get your other person to take notes, if the Dr hasn't questioned you on a symptom/problem that you put on your form; remind him of it; and finally; if the Dr asks you to sign anything; READ IT, or get the person with you too
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how did you get on ?
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how did you get on ?

It was just over 7 yrs ago;

I got it indefinitely; hasn't been reviewed *fingers crossed* (higher rate mobility)

if the two lots speak as I've just been awarded IB50 for 5 yrs, it isn't likely too be too soon

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Old 09-03-2009, 1:19 PM
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Hi All

Just looking for some advice really. I have received a letter today telling me that a doctor will visit next Thursday. I have applied for DLA as I suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis and am currently off work (have been since beginning of November)

Can anyone tell me what I should expect from this visit?

Thanks
Linz xoxox
How did it go? or is it this coming Thursday?
Thanx

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if so fingers crossed
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IF the doctor trys to shake hands DONT ,they will press hard to see if you get pain from it or see how hard you can press, these "doctors" get about £100 a visit so be prepared for him/her trying to catch you out although your case is genuine. you should be on Incapacity Benefit by now have you applied?
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What a load of conspiracy theorists we have on here!.

If you do not maximise or minimise your condition and then make sure that the DR has written it down accurately then surely that is all that needs to be done?

I honestly don't believe that they are trying to 'trick' you into anything, and anyway if they have to 'trick' it wasn't strictly honest, was it?

To the OP I would say just tell the truth as it is, warts and all.
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The DLA doctor who came out to me didn't look around the house. But he DID ask me to go outside in the street with him so that he could assess how far I was able to walk.

Given that I'd have all my neighbours out to watch, I refused. He said it would "look bad" if I refused, and I said he had no right to ask me to undergo a medical examination or assessment in the street.

He shrugged and said "fair point", and asked me to show my walking indoors.

I got the award, although I fully expected to have to appeal.
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The DLA doctor who came out to me didn't look around the house. But he DID ask me to go outside in the street with him so that he could assess how far I was able to walk.

Given that I'd have all my neighbours out to watch, I refused. He said it would "look bad" if I refused, and I said he had no right to ask me to undergo a medical examination or assessment in the street.

He shrugged and said "fair point", and asked me to show my walking indoors.

I got the award, although I fully expected to have to appeal.
I would feel the same, I have problems going out anyway on top of my mobility problems so really don't want the doc asking me to do this if I get a medical. Thing is walking in the home isnt as bad for me as its a small house with lots of furniture that I use to hold onto to get around, its not the same as walking constantly along a steet so I'd hope they would take it into consideration. I wondered if I said I didnt want to go in the street a doc might ask me to walk down my garden path instead, I still wouldnt like it though. I know someone else this happened to that had rheumatoid arthritis, the doctor took him around the block of his flat, he did end up getting full mobility though and has a car through the dla, not sure what care componant he got but I thought that was a bit much asking someone with that condition to do that, it seems to me that most with r arthritis get full mobility because of the effect on joints and the pain
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the dla doctor left me on chair and saw himself out !
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Hiya,

I have been attempting to claim DLA for mental health disorders, including obsessive compulsive disorder and depression and a knee condition (chondromalacia patalla? spelling!) which has been gong on for over two years (but apparently isn't chronic!).
Anyway, since I have not seen a doctor about my mental health for a long time now, since I was last hospitalised and told there was nothing much else to help me, DLA decided to send a doctor round to get more information. Fair enough. (In addition, I had previously claimed from hospital, w. doctors notes and a mental health nurse signature, but apparently it is not kept for over two years?)
Anyway, since it took me various visits to the GP to actually determine what was wrong with my knees, I was unable provide the dla doc with my diagnosis /treatment/ doc notes at the time, what luck.
So this doc who comes round wants to find out about the whole shabang. All the time before he arrives, I was flustered cleaning and when he gets here, I have just finished washing and walk out, still not fully prepared and jump to see my boyfriend has let him in and he is standing in the hallway. I sit to talk with him, all the while, looking away and trying to tidy around him. However, he does not seem to notice, since he is not a mental health professional. Furthermore, he even writes in his report, apparently to prove my knees are fine, that I bend down several times to pick up my cat. Yeah... but this does show I was distracted as I did this while talking to him, because I was nervous, i.e. OCD/anxiety?!
Anyway, my claim is not looking good already, I am not receiving any treatment for anything or do I have a proper diagnosis for my knee (yet) apart from 'wear and tear'.
He asks various questions, what is my daily routine, what car do I drive (manual/automatic?) how far do I drive it, blah blah blah.
I am asked to sit on the couch where he examines my knees. My right knee grinds when I move it, this can physically be felt and heard. He does not notice this and says my knees are fine. He asks how long can I walk before it hurts and I say as long as I am walking, it is affecting me, so one step lol. He writes I can walk just fine for up to 800m without discomfort (without asking to see me walk, just seeing me walk around my flat all of about five feet on a flat, even surface). Admittedly, I do look fine when I walk but that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt and I have adapted the way I walk to compensate for my knees, which is not very noticeable. I had to leave my job because my knees were so bad and had to pay high parking/taxi fares to get to work because I couldn't walk the one mile there.
The doctor, however, disagreed. He also said I had no signs of mental health problems. He might have made this assumption on the fact that he asked me misleading questions and omitted various pieces of information from the report (as I believe; I requested the report). He asked about help going to bed at night. I said if I go to bed early, it would be approx. 2am (I had to be at work for 9am and was late daily because of this). Reasons= I clean before going to bed and have to arrange things in certain orders, check locks and doors, check fire threat, blah blah blah wash all dishes, etc. I get up several times to use the toilet even if I don't need to as I can't sleep without knowing I've been. Get up to re-check things. Get drink of water and tissue for bedside table as cannot sleep without knowing they're there. All in all, have very disrupted sleep. He omits this entire information from his report. Instead of being late and not sleeping, I drive a manual car to work a mile away and come home to watch tv.
He asks (in reference to my mental health I presume and not my knees!) precisely WHAT tv do I watch? No, exactly which programs? Comedy, news, drama? Right... so what would I be expected to say to prove I have OCD? I watch 'How Clean is Your House'? is that what I was supposed to say? Or come across sheer crazy and tell him I only watch the static, no channels at all. I mean, honestly. I watch tv, whatevers on I said and he makes me say certain genres or types of programs which I feel is putting words in my mouth cos literally, I just watch whatever. Sometimes, I'm not even watching tv, it's not even on, but I'm still staring at it.
So anyway, they based the whole case on this report, this guy who has seen me for ten minutes, without barely looking up at me to make eye contact and avoiding any conversation apart from asking his questions and looking down at his paper. I think I asked him if he'd like a tea about a hundred times, I felt so awkward!
So now I have to go to tribunal appeal stage to prove I am disabled. And no, you cannot tell from what type of tv I watch, unfortunately, if I have mental health problems or not, or else I could diagnose myself with freeview, which would be very convenient.
Anyway, grr... doctor's visit! Be careful how you act, it's not conspiracy theory, it's human nature that you want to act your best and portray yourself in the best light, hiding your disabilities etc. but that is just what makes you look like you're faking it when a doc sits opposite you and thinks you're just fine n dandy cos you got so good at fooling everyone.

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caela sorry to hear how bad it all went for you. but are you getting help for the tribunal ? CAB/DIAL/local health group ? they will come with you and speak for you and give very good advice for you, like get your doctor to write a report for you . ( if you get on well with him that is ) ect
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