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Old 27-08-2008, 7:19 AM
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I'd be grateful for any help, son has lost his honda civic key with remote. Does anyone have any suggestions for a replacement or do we have to bite the bullet and go to a Honda main dealer?
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Old 27-08-2008, 7:47 AM
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I'm in the same position (but with a Citroen). There are quite a lot of auto locksmiths (http://www.autolocksmiths.net/) and high street key cutting shops that can copy some car keys, but if it's a recent model they probably won't be able to copy it; if they can do it, they may only be able to do the key and not the remote.

There are also people selling car key blanks (with and without remotes) on Ebay, which you may be able to take to a main dealer and get them to cut & program it. They are generally much cheaper than main dealer prices, but you run the risk of buying an unsuitable key blank or the main dealer not being willing to use your blank. Check the seller's refund policy if you decide to do this.
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Old 27-08-2008, 8:08 AM
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Ditto above post.
I had a similar issue with one of the flat Renault credit card type fobs. Inspite of many for sale on ebay etc claiming they can be reprogrammed, they can't. They are a "non-rewriteable" type. The auto locksmith I called, (used by all the major traders), gave the same story.
Of course yours may be different but most newish cars are the same to aid security
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Old 27-08-2008, 10:18 AM
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When you do get a new key, make sure you get the car reprogrammed as well, otherwise the old key will still work. I just bought a new Honda and was told that if I lost a key it would be 170 to replace it, I can't believe it costs Honda more than a fiver, so they are making a tidy profit out of lost keys.
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Old 27-08-2008, 10:24 AM
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Don't some Honda's have a " red key "? which is I believe a master key, or did I dream that?:confused:
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Old 27-08-2008, 10:44 AM
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Ditto above post.
I had a similar issue with one of the flat Renault credit card type fobs. Inspite of many for sale on ebay etc claiming they can be reprogrammed, they can't. They are a "non-rewriteable" type. The auto locksmith I called, (used by all the major traders), gave the same story.
Of course yours may be different but most newish cars are the same to aid security
The auto locksmith may have the security model the wrong way round; for example, Ford's security system also uses non-rewriteable radio tags in the keyfobs, but the manual documents the actions necessary to add a new key to the list (of upto five, if I remember correctly) that are permitted to disengage the immobiliser. It does require you have two keys available that are already permitted, though, which can be a stumbling block if you just lost one of the original two keys!
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Old 27-08-2008, 11:29 AM
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The auto locksmith may have the security model the wrong way round; for example, Ford's security system also uses non-rewriteable radio tags in the keyfobs, but the manual documents the actions necessary to add a new key to the list (of upto five, if I remember correctly) that are permitted to disengage the immobiliser. It does require you have two keys available that are already permitted, though, which can be a stumbling block if you just lost one of the original two keys!

I was quoted 170 for a new Renault key and reprogramming. The locksmiths can't help in a lot of cases, not sure about the Ford case. Chasing through the relevant owners forum will give the definative answer, in the case of Renault it's a no no.

The red key thing I thought could apply to any make? not sure. I thought it indicated that a transponder chip to activate the imobiliser was in the key, could be wrong
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Old 28-08-2008, 11:49 AM
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Just in case it's helpful, this morning I popped into a locksmith I pass every day on my bike and showed them my key. The man tested it in a machine, and then got on the phone to his boss, saying something like "it's a type 46 crypto".

He then told me that they could make a copy, but first I would have to contact Citroen to get a PIN code, and that I would have to go to the locksmith's head office and possibly leave the car with them. He quoted 65 (this was for a non-remote key). I'm not sure if Citroen will charge to give me the PIN.

The locksmith was Market Locks and Safes near Island Gardens in East London (http://www.market-lock.co.uk/).
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When you do get a new key, make sure you get the car reprogrammed as well, otherwise the old key will still work. I just bought a new Honda and was told that if I lost a key it would be 170 to replace it, I can't believe it costs Honda more than a fiver, so they are making a tidy profit out of lost keys.
Big T the price has now gone up includin VAT im absolutely furious. I need a spare key for the civic. Dunno wot to do now. I doubt hionda will give out the secure code for the key else they wont make no money on keys.
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Old 08-05-2009, 5:33 PM
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Hi slickc2100 If you already have a key most decent keycutters/locksmith shops can cut and code one in from your original one, Its when you lose all your keys it becomes dificult and expencive.
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Hi slickc2100 If you already have a key most decent keycutters/locksmith shops can cut and code one in from your original one, Its when you lose all your keys it becomes dificult and expencive.
The only problem with that is that the original key will still work. If somebody unscrupulous finds it they only have to go around pointing it at every Honda in the area and they will be off with the car, if you've also got house keys on the lost keys and the car is parked outside your house they may be taking a bit more than your car. You really should make sure the car is reprogrammed as well so the original keys don't work, there might be some non-Honda garages around who can do it for a lot less than a Honda dealer.
I've given up trying to get my signature to work with the new rules, if nobody knows what the rules are what hope do we have?
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