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Jpk Advertising - Dodgy Marketing Company -KEVIN O'NEIL IS BROKE. HE EARNS 12K A YEAR
Business Advertising Ltd AKA JPKadvertising AKA KPJ enterprises.
Has anyone had a job or an interview at Business advertising ltd ???
If so please share your experience here.
Business advertising ltd is a door to door sales company where you work from 9am to 10pm. It is 100% COMISSION ONLY and you are SELF EMPLOYED.
The job advert on the web is very different to what the job entails, if you can call it a job!
The job advert along the lines of;
IMMEDIATE START!!!
ambitious highly motivated people wanted to expand rapidly growing fast paced marketing company.
WE WILL TRAIN!!!
20 GRADUATE OPPORTUNITIES!!!
local marketing company looking to train people from scratch to manage one of our major clients.
NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY!!!
Its funny that they fail to mention that it is door to door sales, commission only and you dont have to be a graduate, in fact its very rare to find a graduate working here. People work there because they think that they will be a manager earning 80K a year. Its just a matter of time before people realise that managers like Kevin Oneil are actually SKINT and work harder than all the fools who are still in the field knocking on doors!
Also bizzarely Business advertising ltd uses the name JPKadvertising on the job adverts says it is in Water street in Liverpool when its actually in Bixteth street???
I think it uses several names and addresses that keep changing for some reason.
Is anyone aware of or had any experience with this company??
Please share your experience whether you have only been for an interview or you worked there for years. The more people know about these companies the sooner they will go out of business !!!
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after my experience with JPK or KPJ whatever they call it these days, i can only say that, yeah, there is an oppurtunity to get promoted into a manager/owner, but the chances of that happening are very slim. It is no different to working for a high street bank or a supermarket. There is an opportunity to progress through the company and become a manager but the amount of staff a company needs is alot higher than the amount of managers that they need.
The problem i have is that people end up working for this company, under the illusion that they will be a manager, putting his/her feet up and watching the money roll in. When in actual fact, in the extremely rare circumstances that you get promoted to a manager, you certainly wont be putting your feet up! And you will still be buying your suits from primark!
If you asked everyone who works "in the business", they are convinced that they are going to be a superstar and earn more money than all their friends put together. But if this is the case, why arent managers of TESCO and NEXT and places like that, quitting their 50K jobs, and going to work for a farce like JPKadvertising??
Answer; because they arent young and impressionable, and would laugh at you if you tried to sell them the business. They probably dont have to lie to their staff every morning about how much they earn either!
JPK and KPJ are on every recruitment site going and it looks like the best job in the world. You will go through the three stage interview process. They will Fear of Loss you! make you think you want the job, need the job. convince you that door 2 door sales is fantastic, you will only be doing it for a few months, then they will close you and make you fight for the job.
When you are offered the job, someone will wlk you out of the building and tactfully tell you not to tell your friends and family that its door2door sales and that its commission only and you work 12-14 hours a day, they will give you the answers to tell your family to in their support.
You go for one job, and they manipulate you into wanting another job that is nothing like the advert you saw on the web.
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jpk marketing or kpj enterprises is an absolute pathetic excuse for a company, the man who says he runs it goes by the name of kevin o neill, or is that really his name? who knows. When i first read the job description i thought i would be quite interested, then i turn up for an almost immediate interview in which i go out with someone called james or jim followed by someone called chris who both thought they were the next two people on the times rich list, when in fact they both looked like pathetic bullied schoolboys who both acted like absolute clowns. I find out more about this kevin on my ride out to the "field" a place where these management candidates go to conduct customer customer acquisition for talk talk more like door to door selling, they tell me that this kevin is only 21 and he has already bought his deformed mum and dad a house and him and his absolutely disgusting girlfriend a house, my ars, in fact which i find out later he still lives with his mum and dad who ship him money every week, because this pathetic excuse for a business is comission only, u only get paid for successful applications, which later throughout my 5 month stay i find out that kev actually steals money and says to everyone that they had a certain percantage of their applications cancelled in which they were passed and he kept the money, unfortunately for him i kept peoples phone numbers and checked, what an idiot.
I was also told that kevin got 4 a's at a - level, he could of easily gone to university but wanted a career, later i find out he was kicked out of school at 15, that should explain his almost disabled personality.
We get to lunch and meet this young girl called katie, she had been drinking all day, and was absolutely trashed by 2 o clock, we eventually stay there all day get pretty drunk, katie was so drunk we had to sober her up, i dare to say it but she publically urinated by the train station while we had to hold her, i mean we saw everything which wasnt a pretty site.
We get back to the office and i stink of alcohol and this kev offers me the job while i was half cut, what a joke.
Whatever you do stay away from kevin o neill pro sales, jpk/kpj marketing it is all a farce, no one makes money especially the poor child that was kevin o neill i feel sorry for his pathetic life and anyone that comes across hi.m
jpk marketing or kpj enterprises is an absolute pathetic excuse for a company, the man who says he runs it goes by the name of kevin o neill, or is that really his name? who knows. When i first read the job description i thought i would be quite interested, then i turn up for an almost immediate interview in which i go out with someone called james or jim followed by someone called chris who both thought they were the next two people on the times rich list, when in fact they both looked like pathetic bullied schoolboys who both acted like absolute clowns. I find out more about this kevin on my ride out to the "field" a place where these management candidates go to conduct customer customer acquisition for talk talk more like door to door selling, they tell me that this kevin is only 21 and he has already bought his deformed mum and dad a house and him and his absolutely disgusting girlfriend a house, my ars, in fact which i find out later he still lives with his mum and dad who ship him money every week, because this pathetic excuse for a business is comission only, u only get paid for successful applications, which later throughout my 5 month stay i find out that kev actually steals money and says to everyone that they had a certain percantage of their applications cancelled in which they were passed and he kept the money, unfortunately for him i kept peoples phone numbers and checked, what an idiot.
I was also told that kevin got 4 a's at a - level, he could of easily gone to university but wanted a career, later i find out he was kicked out of school at 15, that should explain his almost disabled personality.
We get to lunch and meet this young girl called katie, she had been drinking all day, and was absolutely trashed by 2 o clock, we eventually stay there all day get pretty drunk, katie was so drunk we had to sober her up, i dare to say it but she publically urinated by the train station while we had to hold her, i mean we saw everything which wasnt a pretty site.
We get back to the office and i stink of alcohol and this kev offers me the job while i was half cut, what a joke.
Whatever you do stay away from kevin o neill pro sales, jpk/kpj marketing it is all a farce, no one makes money especially the poor child that was kevin o neill i feel sorry for his pathetic life and anyone that comes across hi.m
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yes you are right , jpkadvertising is listed on companieshouse.gov, however it is registered to an address in London, the job adverts claim that the company is in Water street in Liverpool and also Bixteth street, the latter being the actual venue of the company.
This for may raises alarm bells that the company is not as legit as it may seem.
Also on JPK.com in the portfolio section, it claims that SKY is its major client, when in fact sky no longer deal with JPK/KPJ when I worked there it was talktalk and some other guys were working for RSPCA or something?
Why arent these "clients" listed in the portfolio? More to the point, why are they claiming that sky is there client when it is not?
I wonder what SKY would say about the matter?
It all just looks a bit muddled up to me, I dont think Kevin Oneil even knows what on earth is going on, let alone the poor people who work for him!
kevo neill is a fraudster his parents shud be proud
i agree jon boy, he actually doesnt know whats goin on, i think he shud go back to school, ye when i worked there it was only talk talk, sky really would love to known whats goin on i think, i pity kev, he has no money, he is just a lost easily influenced child
I use to work in JPK/KPJ Enterpise,Marketing/,Advertising or whatever they are calling themselves now for a guy called Kevin O'Neil who claimed he was earning about £4k a week and about £70k a year and told everyone he had bought his house off his mum and dad and he lets them live there!!!!! Yeh, Right! this guy wore the same suit everday and drove a Astra, He said if he wanted a merc or a bmw he would get one but it wasnt practical for his needs as he gets the train to work, hahaah what a plonker. I knew there was somthing not right about the place as soon as i was there but i fell for a !!!! and bull story about being a manager and earning around £35k in a year for an assistant manager. I went to Leeds on a "road-trip" in my second week and saw a load of despirate individuals totally convinced and brain washed into the idea that if they walk the streets late at night knocking on all kinds of doors they will be a manager and earn £70k a year, yet all you would do was work for less than minimum wage compared to the hours you do, you dont see family or friends because you are always working and when you find they tell you its too good to be true, and you argue that it isnt and anyone can get to managment and that you will be loaded in a year or so. I was totally blown away by how brainwashed people were and how Kevin O'Neil had people wanting to stay behind and clean up to prove to him thay can be a manager. After leeds I came back and just thought ide leave but couldnt be bothered telling anyone so i didnt. A few days later i got a msg from Chris my Trainee manager asking how i was, i just thought ide play with them a little bit so i told him ide fell down the stairs naked and broke my back and they all beleived me.......... Anyways i was finding it hard looking for a job so 6 weeks later i told them ide made a full recovery (From a broken back) and was ready to come back. I returned and i had people bending overbackwards doing stuff for me as i had a broken back, people moved chairs and let me sit down i had people bending down picking pens up and i was always in the front of a vehicle on a day in the field as my back was too sore to bend into the back of the car. So i had everyone convinced my back had been broken they all fell for it. The tip of the iceberg for me was i was getting bored of the same old stuff being said the 5 and 8 steps and the Awesome high 5's and the For Sure For Sure all the time. So i decided to leave, and now at 19:30 those poor kids are in the field in the freezing cold. Tee Hee
I remember an ex girlfriend of mine going for an interview at a company in Leeds, The first question they asked was 'WOULD YOU FEEL INTIMIDATED IF WE ASKED YOU TO TAKE YOUR TOP OFF!!
Other people also said that they were asked the same 'pointless' question!!
It was part of their 'sales' grooming.
It was one of those 'seedy' backstreet gone tomorrow sales companies.
Company name: KPJ enterprises or p & D marketing or JPKAdvertising we'l have a new name soon.
Job Title: Door to door sales person / canvasser.
REF: cr4pj0b1
Wage: No basic wage offered, commission only.
Hours: 75. Mon-Sat
Qualifications: Brief knowledge of the English language.
Job description: Field based, you will be expected to sell TalkTalk home telephone services door to door, between 12pm and 8pm. Between 9am and 12, and also 8pm to 10pm you will be exected to take notes on how to be a better salesman. Also you are expected to try and get promoted to management by hiring a team of salespeople to do your job.
You will be working all over the North West. You are required to pay for your own transport costs, train and bus fares aswel as food costs etc yourself.
The ideal candidate: Young, impressionable, gullable. Own transport ideal as you can drive everyone else around too! You should have some savings or large overdraft facility to pay for your transport costs etc the weeks you make no money. Good liar. No financial commitments such as mortgages to pay. No family. No hobbies or interests!
I think that Mr Oneil should place this truthful advert on websites and see what happens??
Thai Hussein is a manager and the one who showed kevin how to pull off the con of pretending to be loaded. Some say he is a close relative of Sadam Hussein and should not be trusted.
According to Kevin O'Neil :
Thai Hussein can slam revolving doors.
Thai Hussein Can do a wheelie on a unicycle.
Thai Hussein is the Real Slim Shady.
Thai Hussein auditioned for the role of The Terminator but producers thought in some scenes he was too realistic and replaced him with Arnie.
Thai Hussein can beleive its not butter.
Thai Hussein Hates Chineese people, Jewsish people, Pakistani's, and Blacks even though he is pakistani the only reason he hasnt destroyed them all is that he thinks Racism is a good thing.
Oh, and does any one know anything about Platinum Force Promotions Ltd? as they seem to have the same layout and style in their job advert on Reed.co.uk
That's what the job is Ellmore Nothing more and nothing less.. If you are invited back for a second interview you will go out doing door to door sales. I reckon you should go for the first interview tomorrow - just for a laugh!!
There are a couple of threads on here about them..do a search and you will find lots of peoples comments about them. KPJ/JPK/P&D Marketing are one and the same..if you go there tomorrow there is a sign saying KPJ Advertising and P&D Marketing.
Haven't heard about the platinum force one, but probably them with another name.
Platinum force is another one of these companies but is part of a different group to JPKadvertising, although there probably is some sort of link somewhere. I will give you the interview process so that you and anyone else can recognise these companies as soon as you see the advert or go for the interview.
First of all you will see the advert in the paper or on the recruitement website that is very similar to the post wildt made on the KPJ thread. This advert looks exactly what you are looking for, so you ring up, or send your CV and you get a reply the very same day, if not the day after. You will be invited in for the 1st interview.
When you get to the office, there will be a receptionist sat on the desk, probably on Bebo or facebook. There will probably be about 3-5 other candidates sat in the reception area. You will be required to fill in a form asking some basic details, name, age, do you have a car? people are getting called in to the interview room, in there for 5-10 mins and then they leave.
When it is your turn, Kevin will call you in, shake your hand and sit you down at his desk. There is a big safe in the corner that is supposed to indicate that theres loads of cash on the premeses. Yeah right, its planted there for that reason. (Why would a safe be in the interview room). Kevin will ramble on for a few minutes about marketing, and why the company is growing so fast, he will drop names like SKY, MBNA, AXA, he works with none of these clients he works with TalkTalk. He will have you believe that there is a massive demand for managers in an expanding market. The only question he will ask you is, "so why marketing, you have no related qualifications or experience". He asks this to put you on the backfoot and make you feel like the job is too good for you. If you do have a degree in marketing, he wont bother because he knows that you would tear him to pieces on the subject.
The interview will finish and you will feel as though there is no way you will get the job. This is a technique that is used day in day out by him called "the Fear Of Loss" makes you think that you are going to lose something that you havent got. Kevin will use this by saying things like:
"Sorry for the interview being so short, I have to interview like 40 ppl today"
and
"Someone will contact you if successfull, we cant ring everyone because it would take me all day"
and
"If no-one has called you by 5pm, you havent got the job"
But obviously, everyone gets the call, but not until after 5pm when you think that you havent got the job, so you are over the moon that you got to the next stage.
You will be invited in probably the next day or as soon as you are available to "spend the day with us and see why we are so effective at what we do"
You will feel great that this big company wants you to be one of its managers. WOW!
You will arrive at the same office at about 11.45 to fill in another piece of paper. You will sit there with perhaps 3 or 4 other people quite nervous and you will be able to hear dance music and raised voices. After a while the music will stop and you will here lots of shouting, clapping and cheering.
Then after a while waiting, Kevin will come through with a Trainee manager for each person who has a 2nd interview. You will be called into the interview room and this is "the set up" Kevin will introduce you to a young lad in a suit or possibly a fairly presentable young girl along the lines of;
"Ellemore, this is Dave, he is one of our top trainers, and has taken the trrouble to clear his entire day to interview you. Now we are not going to be showing you the glitz and glam side of the business today, so we are not going to whisk you off to Las Vegas or anything like that." (the 3 of you share an awkward laugh). "Dave is going to be showing you the more hard working, conceptual side of the entry level side of our business today.
So get in Daves goodbooks and buy him a bacon butty or something at lunchtime" (again another awkward laugh) "but can you do me one favour? and have some fun?"
You leave the office with your top trainer still having no idea what on earth is going on.
Then there is what they call the "CV breakdown" which is designed for 2 reasons, first to make you feel inadequate or under qualified for the job and secondly, to wait for the "rideouts", (other people who already work there and "observations" that will be going to the same area as you. You are reffered to as the observation).
When everyone is ready, you will get into your car if you drive or get the bus or the train to the "territory". You will be paying for the ticket or petrol, and on the way, your trainer will ask questions and put words into your mouth, basically making you come to the conclusion that Door to Door sales is the most effective form of marketing known to man. If the trainer is good at their job they will "pre-empt" any negative things you have to say about it. For example, they will say "on my 2nd interview i thought oh my god door to door sales, but i stuck around til lunchtime where everything is explained, seeing how much money i am going to be on is why i am here" or something along those lines.
You will then spend until around 3 o clock, following this guy around doing door to door. At lunchtime, you will go to a pub for something to eat. Guess what, you are paying for it! there will be some of the same people who came in your car or got on the same bus or train as you there. You will then commence the "Lunchtime breakdown". This is the most crucial part of the day that either gets people on board or sends them running.
The trainer will explain that there is 3-4 stages, you should get promoted to the next stage after 3 weeks, then the next after a couple of months, then to a managers level within a year.
You will be told how much everyone is earning, this is LIES. They will say that "Bill" who has been here 2weeks earns 300 quid a week. "the assistant manager earns 35k salary, and Kevin as a 21 year old manager earns like 100k. They will make it look like they are only doing door to door for a few weeks while they learn how to be a manager. This is also a lie, they will be in the "field" until they wise up and get a real job.
They will gently and carefully break it to you that whilst in the field, you are on commission. Whatever they say they are earning, half it and you are closer to the real figure. At no point is anyone on a salary, look up commission in the dictionary. The assistant manager is still on commission, they just get a slightly higher rate.
At this point the trainer will be able to tell if you have fallen for it all or not. If you have fallen for it all, they will turn into your best mate and tell you that they cant give you the job, only a "reccomendation". They will give you stuff to learn about the "system" to take your mind off another 5 hours of door to door sales.
At 8pm you will all head back to the office for you 3rd interview. On the journey back, they will keep using the "fear of loss" on you teeling you that they might not be able to get you an interview.
You get back and you get yet another form to fill in. A classic tactic used is for the trainer who took you out to come in and take you outside the room and tell you that Kevin is really busy and hasnt got time to interview you. They will ask you is there anything i can tell him about you that might change his mind. You will then try and sell yourself, desperate to get this interview. You go back into the room and you get the interview.
Kevin will grill you about having no experience, even though the advert said "no experience neccessary"! he will then tell you that he sees great potential in you and that you remind him of himself! About 5 mins of bull and he will offer you the job and shake your hand. He will call your trainer into the room and say that the only reason you got the job was because the trainer gave you such a sparkling reccomendation!
The trainer then conducts "the walkdown". This is when he/she will walk you out of the building, congratulating you on getting the job, taking your phone number and telling you to come in at half ten the following day.
They will tell you ho to explain the job to friends and family so that they dont laugh and tell you to get a proper job. It is about 10pm by this stage, when you are on your way home, the trainer will ring or text you offering their congrats again.
You get home thinking that you have made a smart career move and excited for the next day. Your "1st day retrain".
If you are daft enough to turn up for this day, you will come in in your new suit, meet the trainer and they will either take you to starbucks for coffee or if its the end of the week and theyre broke, you just go to the interview room to "do the paperwork". If you read through this properly, or it wasnt so cleverly worded by dodgy lawyers, you wouldnt sign it.
It is basically a contract to say that you are not an employee of JPK,KPJ or P&D. You are SELF EMPLOYED, JPK just give you contracts to sign people up for TalkTalk. You are an "Independent Sales Associate". As far as TalkTalk are concerned you are a door to door salesman, they pay JPK for people you sign up, Kevin takes a chunk amd pays you whats left.
You are well within youre rights to take this document home and get someone to go through it with you. However if you suggest this, you will be told that the job is "not for you" and asked to leave. Otherwise the trainer will come across pushed for time and rush you through signing it all. You dont get a copy.
The rest of the morning is spent cult like rallying and motivating sales. People who are good at sales or kevin himself will get up and speak from the front to motivate sales.
You will hear people talk about "the concept of the business", you will never find out what this is until the day you leave, and you will leave!
The concept is as follows;
Hire as many people as is humanly possible to do sales. Make them stay and "lock them in" by taking their mind off the sales and focusing on getting to management. About 1 in 5000 people that start on the 1st day will get to management. If and when they do get there, it is nothing like it is portrayed.
Sales is the be all and end all of the world.
Hope this helps people who are thinking of going along to an interview with this company or any like it.
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Jpk Advertising - Dodgy Marketing Company -KEVIN O'NEIL IS BROKE. HE EARNS 12K A YEAR
Nothing more and nothing less.. If you are invited back for a second interview you will go out doing door to door sales. I reckon you should go for the first interview tomorrow - just for a laugh!!
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