King size mattress, questions again, please help!

PaulW123 · 29 November 2009 at 7:22PM

[FONT=&quot]Hello all,

I’m looking to buy a king-sized mattress to replace a 8-year old Sleepeeze Ortholux 800 pocket sprung mattress which is well overdue a replacement.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I’ve visited Dreams, and the most comfortable we came up with was a Slumberland Morecambe at £549 (1400 pocket sprung, with memory foam top), as usual in these places this was a special clearance only offer (web site shows £949).[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]After browsing through pages and pages on the forum, I’m now more confused than ever, apart from the constant advice to stay away from the big name shops.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]So, today we visited a local bed specialist. We really liked a mattress made by Breasley, and sold under the brand name of Salus. It was a memory pocket 1200+. However, once home I wanted to check it was a fair price so looked on the internet to compare costs, but couldn’t find this model anywhere. Has anyone come across one of these before, or indeed does anyone have one and would they recommend?[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Basic spec is 1200 pocket springs[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]75mm of memory foam[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]No turn[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5 year guarantee[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Last question, what's wrong with reflex foam encapsulated pocket springs as I’ve seen negative comments about these and I’m not sure if the mattress we like does or does not have them?[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Thank you[/FONT]

PaulW123 · 1 December 2009 at 12:19AM

I’ve now been told it may also been known as a [FONT=&quot]Breasley / Salus Coolsleep memory 1200. Hopefully this may help![/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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Tim_Deegan · 2 December 2009 at 1:40AM

Breasley mattresses get very mixed reviews. Some like them, and some hate them.

Breasley pocket sprung mattresses do contain the reflex foam encapsulated pocket springs. The problems with reflex foam encapsulated pocket springs are as follows:

The springs are usually much smaller than the full size steel pocket springs, and don't give anywhere near the support of the full size springs. You wouldn't be able to vacuum pack and roll up full size steel pocket springs without damaging them.
I'm not sure what type are in Breasley mattresses, but reflex foam encapsulated springs aren't allways even made from steel. I've seen them made from plastic, and even some are barrel shaped foam springs (I supposed the word spring can be used for any springy material).
Due to the springs being encapsulated in reflex foam, this prevents air circulating around the spring layer to dissipate the heat, and keep the mattress well ventilated.
The reason this type of spring system seems to be used is so that they can call it a pocket sprung and memory foam mattress. However they give no better support or ventilation that a reflex foam/memory foam mattress.

tootie · 29 December 2009 at 1:06PM

Paul -tried to PM you but wont allow me- I have a salus memory pocket 1200. cost me 600 new about 9 days ago - slept on it for 2 nights - 1 of which i used a topper.
Problem for me is that my husband has herniated discs and and other problems with his spine and now needs a specialist bed that is going to cost us over 3k.
I bought this mattress as like a "last try" before having to pay out over 3k but he just cannot sleep on it - although i love it.
Its firm and in brand new condiditon still with corner protectors still on, so if you wanted a bargain please get in contact asap.

tootie · 29 December 2009 at 1:11PM

I was also told the salus collection was/is not sold on the internet which may be why you cant find one to compare

Tim_Deegan · 29 December 2009 at 9:23PM

tootie wrote: »

I was also told the salus collection was/is not sold on the internet which may be why you cant find one to compare

Who told you that.....the sales rep in the shop?

paws4thought · 3 January 2010 at 10:37PM

I'm in a similar situation to the OP. I've also been looking around for a king size and came across the Salus range at a local independent only this afternoon. I'd never heard of them and the salesman told me Salus won't allow their products to be sold online. I've found buying a bed is like manoeuvering through a maze but I do feel slightly more educated after reading through the threads here. A good bed is going to be an investment and we don't want to make a costly mistake. Thanks due to Tim Deegan. Are Salus beds definitely made by Breasley and do they definitely use the undesirable latex foam encapsulated pocket springs?

Tim_Deegan · 3 January 2010 at 11:47PM

paws4thought wrote: »

I'm in a similar situation to the OP. I've also been looking around for a king size and came across the Salus range at a local independent only this afternoon. I'd never heard of them and the salesman told me Salus won't allow their products to be sold online. I've found buying a bed is like manoeuvering through a maze but I do feel slightly more educated after reading through the threads here. A good bed is going to be an investment and we don't want to make a costly mistake. Thanks due to Tim Deegan. Are Salus beds definitely made by Breasley and do they definitely use the undesirable latex foam encapsulated pocket springs?

They are available on line if you search. They are made by Beasley, and yes they do contain reflex foam encapsulated pocket springs.

paws4thought · 4 January 2010 at 12:03AM

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

They are available on line if you search. They are made by Beasley, and yes they do contain reflex foam encapsulated pocket springs.

Thanks Tim. I had been looking at Sleepeezee Visco Supreme or Pocket Visco as alternatives, but after reading threads here, not so sure now. Any advice welcome?! I'm happy to buy online but feel the need to try in a shop first and most shops seem only to stock the well known brands.

I'd already decided to avoid Dreams as IMO their strategy seems to be to con customers into thinking they've got a good deal so I've been looking at a local independent dealer with about half a dozen shops in my area only - https://www.sleepingsolutions.co.uk

I'm sure you've done this many times, but please could you explain the benefits/difference between memory foam vs latex foam?

Thanks

Tim_Deegan · 4 January 2010 at 12:36AM

paws4thought wrote: »

Thanks Tim. I had been looking at Sleepeezee Visco Supreme or Pocket Visco as alternatives, but after reading threads here, not so sure now. Any advice welcome?! I'm happy to buy online but feel the need to try in a shop first and most shops seem only to stock the well known brands.

I'd already decided to avoid Dreams as IMO their strategy seems to be to con customers into thinking they've got a good deal so I've been looking at a local independent dealer with about half a dozen shops in my area only - www.sleepingsolutions.co.uk

I'm sure you've done this many times, but please could you explain the benefits/difference between memory foam vs latex foam?

Thanks

Even Sleeping Solutions say the following on their web site:

We know testing beds in high street showrooms is not only embarrassing but also seriously flawed.
A five-minute test, wrapped in your raincoat, staring face up at the ceiling, with an eager sales person hovering over you, does not help you find your ideal bed!

I also notice that they also only sell mattresses made by big brand names, except for their own brand. It would be worth finding out who actually makes their own brand mattresses.

Memory foam and latex both give very similar levels of support, but actually have a completely different feel. Latex has quite a lot of bounce, but memory foam absorbs any bounce. In fact my 5 year old son gets the right hump when he tries to bounce on my pocket sprung/memory foam mattress because he can't.
Latex is cooler than memory foam, and is a natural product, but it is also more expensive.
If you are looking for a mattress that contains latex foam then beware, as many mattresses that contain latex foam only contain a thin layer, and in many it is only in some areas of the mattress. Ideally you need a 2" layer covering the whole sleeping surface (on both sides of the mattress if you can find one).

hog_2 · 20 January 2010 at 2:53PM

Tim

I have read the posts on SALUS matresses and am now confused.
I know you have prossibly answered this before but.
We are looking at a SALUS memory 1200 and asked specifically if the springs were encased in foam and was told they were not. There is foam around the edges and 2" mem foam on top, but the springs were not encased and were metal.
They also stated the matresses ar not rolled.
Looking at the Beasley site, not much info. How can I find out the actual make up for the matress? The shop concerned is a small outfit and not a main chain.

King size mattress, questions again, please help!

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