Can anyone recmomend a good low-energy portable heater/radiator
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My main problem is that I live on a canal boat so saving space is quite important... Can you get minature LPG heaters?
If you are on a boat then there are specific safety issues with LPG. It is heavier than air and can sink into bilges etc.A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.0 -
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I just popped down to the local market and they have portable LPG heaters for £15 and gas canisters for £5 for 4. Has anyone any experience using these? How long will one can last?
If they're similar to these ones at Scotts of Stowe then it's a "1.5kW heat" output and "Works for up to 2 hours on single cartridge"
So that's 3kWh per cartridge or 12kWh for £5. That's 41p per kWh. Or 82p per kWh if you buy your cartridges from Scotts - and they describe their heater as "economical".
The first 900 units on EDF Eco 2020 Tariff are charged at 17.75p per kWh. And that has a reputation for being an expensive tariff.A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.0 -
Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »Elke heaters will no more or less economical than any other form of electric heater
Well according to the company up at Bridlington they are MUCH more economical than standard electric heaters because of their special patented design.
These heaters are widely used in Austria & Germany were they suffer severe winters, the heater apparently heats up to the desired temperature and is then able to hold that temperature within the clay bed for hours on end without the need to switch back on, therefore saving energy.
Or am I wrong and you know something that I don't, if so I'd love to know as I'm currently considering buying a couple of these. Can you back up your statement with some facts as you sound fairly sure of yourself?:think:0 -
Well according to the company up at Bridlington they are MUCH more economical than standard electric heaters because of their special patented design.
These heaters are widely used in Austria & Germany were they suffer severe winters, the heater apparently heats up to the desired temperature and is then able to hold that temperature within the clay bed for hours on end without the need to switch back on, therefore saving energy.
Or am I wrong and you know something that I don't, if so I'd love to know as I'm currently considering buying a couple of these. Can you back up your statement with some facts as you sound fairly sure of yourself?:think:
This is marketing drivel and nothing more.
If you take 1KW/h of energy from an electrical outlet and feed it into a heater - where does that energy go? It's emitted as heat. How can you either gain or lose that electrical energy? Where do you suppose it goes? How do you suppose the "clay bed" creates extra heat?
It doesn't, simple. It's school boy physics. It doesn't need any more backing up than that. I'd challenge the heater manufacturer to back up their fantasy "free heat" claim though.0 -
Well according to the company up at Bridlington they are MUCH more economical than standard electric heaters because of their special patented design.
These heaters are widely used in Austria & Germany were they suffer severe winters, the heater apparently heats up to the desired temperature and is then able to hold that temperature within the clay bed for hours on end without the need to switch back on, therefore saving energy.
Or am I wrong and you know something that I don't, if so I'd love to know as I'm currently considering buying a couple of these. Can you back up your statement with some facts as you sound fairly sure of yourself?:think:
As stated above. It is absolutely certain that these heaters are no more efficient than any other heater - be a £10 fan heater or Granny's old 1/2/3 bar electric fire.
If any heater uses 1 kWh costing xx pence, its heat output(technically in BTu) is exactly the same.
The only difference is the manner in which it delivers that heat. It can be virtually 'instant' like a fan heater, but then it has no residual heat.
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Something like an oil filled radiator(or any other filling clay etc) In which case it does not produce much heat initially as the energy(electricity) is heating the oil/clay etc, but it retains the heat longer.
However the heat output is the same.
If you want the latter characteristic, then buy a £20 oil filled radiator from Argos.
There are countless firms peddling these radiators for huge amounts of money on misleading claims that they produce more heat, save energy etc and they don't!!
Actually when you read their literature, they are very careful to word it so they cannot be prosecuted.
I don't know what other proof you want, I am a Chartered Electrical Engineer if that means anything to you. However it really is no more than 'O' level physics to understand you don't get owt for nowt.0 -
There is no point in using small cannisters to heat a whole room.
You would be changing them continuously.
These look quite nice:
http://www.lpg-portable-heaters.co.uk/acatalog/hotspot-heater.html
http://www.lpg-portable-heaters.co.uk/acatalog/provence-living-flame.html
I have one of these for back up:
http://www.lpg-portable-heaters.co.uk/acatalog/info_delongblue.html
Makro was selling them for about £70.
They all use 7kg and 15kg Calorgas butane.0 -
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As the fat cells release their chemical energy in the form of heat, carbon dioxide and water are produced, which are conducted by your blood stream to be disposed of by your lungs and bladders in the usual manner.
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Instead of paying for electricity and gas, all you have to do is eat more chips to keep warm.:D0 -
Pincher, that sounds brilliant!
Do you know if I can get one through Quidco!
Also technically speaking if the fuel consisted of baked beans would the system be convertible to warm air heating?0 -
Pincher, that sounds brilliant!
Do you know if I can get one through Quidco!
Also technically speaking if the fuel consisted of baked beans would the system be convertible to warm air heating?
Beanz meanz gaz. Unable to metabolise bio-methane, so it escapes through both ends of the alimentary canal. It is therefore particularly dangerous for smokers lighting up.
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