The Great 'Medical Tourism' Hunt

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  • yogayogi_2
    yogayogi_2 Posts: 7 Forumite
    With acknowledgement to the Economist have a look at this excellent recent article on the subject. Subscriptions available at Economist.com


    Medical tourism
    Sun, sand and scalpels

    Mar 8th 2007 | BANGKOK
    From The Economist print edition
    Soaring health-care costs in the rich world offer Asian firms an opportunity

    AMERICA'S soaring health-care costs, already $2 trillion a year, are predicted to double in the coming decade. Dissatisfaction with the rocketing price of care will only get worse as demanding and health-conscious “baby-boomers” hit retirement and start to suffer the costly ailments of old age.

    In countries like Britain and Canada, with supposedly universal coverage, state spending is not keeping up with growing demand, so patients face long and agonising waits for operations. And in the prosperous bits of Asia and the Middle East growing numbers of people are rich enough to demand high-quality medical care that they cannot get locally.

    All this presents a fantastic business opportunity for those Asian countries, principally Thailand, Singapore and India, which have excellent private hospitals that are used to treating foreigners and where costs are a fraction of those in rich countries. “Medical tourism” is booming as patients look abroad for cheap, fast treatment, often combined with a holiday afterwards. Josef Woodman, the author of “Patients Beyond Borders”, a new guide for those seeking surgery abroad, reckons that 150,000 Americans did so last year, and predicts the numbers will double this year.

    Booming demand is encouraging rapid expansion at big stockmarket-listed hospital operators such as Thailand's Bumrungrad and Bangkok Dusit, Singapore's Parkway and Pacific Healthcare and India's Apollo Hospitals. This week Pacific Healthcare said it would build seven medical centres across Asia. Bumrungrad, which treated 430,000 non-Thais last year, has just expanded its Bangkok hospital and is setting up in the Philippines and Dubai.

    Singapore is more expensive than Thailand, but still far cheaper than America. Goh Jin Hian, the head of Parkway's Gleneagles Hospital, says Singapore should try to compete for the most complex treatments, leaving cosmetic surgery and other price-sensitive operations to lower-cost rivals such as Thailand. Nevertheless, like the Thai hospital operators, he is sure the medical-travel boom will provide plenty of foreign patients for them all.

    Mr Woodman reckons that today's boom is just the start. So far, most medical tourists pay their own way. But the Asian hospital operators are now courting American health insurers and employers desperate to rein in soaring costs. Bumrungrad's marketing chief, Ruben Toral, who was in America this week for talks with insurers and big employers, says they were very keen. BlueCross BlueShield of South Carolina already offers Bumrungrad's cut-price treatments to members whose policies do not cover the surgery they need.

    To reassure foreign patients, many hospitals are seeking accreditation from the Joint Commission International (JCI), the international arm of the body that accredits American hospitals. Thailand's Bumrungrad and nine Singaporean hospitals already have JCI certificates. Raymond Chong, the boss of Bangkok Dusit's Samitivej Hospital, reckons it will be only a year or two before big American insurers and employers routinely offer patients lower premiums if they are prepared to travel to a foreign JCI-accredited hospital for surgery.

    For patients, employers and insurers the benefits are clear. But the hospital operators are bracing themselves for a backlash from the rich countries' medical vested interests whose jobs are, in effect, being outsourced. Expect much shroud-waving from doctors' associations and health-care unions as they highlight the few cases of foreign surgery that go wrong—as though such a thing never happens back home.
  • my wife & i visit goa nearly every year & were highly scepticle about using the country's dental system !! how wrong we were.
    i was the one who initialy "tested the water" & what a fantastic result. we were introduced by our taxi driver, & cut a long story short, myself, my wife & my 2 daughters have all attended this dentist with exeptional results (and saved approx £ 7000.00)
    the biggest surprise is that my wife hasn't visited a dentist since the law was passed that you can't be anethetised, but this dentist spent 2 hours with her, reassuring her that all would be fine & the result is she can now visit him without any qualms whatsoever.
    if anybody is interested he is dr piedade fernandes in cavelossim goa.
  • greeneye
    greeneye Posts: 801 Forumite
    Anyone else a little dubious about the recomendations on here from people who've never posted before and/or only joined today?? :rolleyes:

    But I am interested in dental implants in hungary so if anyone else who doesn't have a vested interest (not suggesting those who have mentioned it fall into the above catergory) wants to share their expierience be good to here how you got on.;)
  • kitaj
    kitaj Posts: 67 Forumite
    Surely not, Greeneye - how cynical of you...:rotfl: I'm interested in Hungarian dental surgery too, now that all my teeth have crumbled and NHS dentists are non-existent (Thanks Thatch...) I've seen a TV prgramme that said good things about it but I don't know anyone who's actually been so I'd be very grateful for any first hand experiences....
  • reehsetin
    reehsetin Posts: 4,916 Forumite
    Combo Breaker First Post
    always said use american or brit hospitals abroad because you can usually be sure that they arent buying copy drugs but are buying from the pharmaceutical companies
    Yes Your Dukeiness :D
  • I have been recommended to visit Dr Thomas, Doctors Dental Clinic in Trivandrum, Sth India. Have planne to visit in November. Has anyone any experience? His emails seem very very genuine with a 15 yr promise on Crowns or replacement if they break.
  • simploerob
    simploerob Posts: 24 Forumite
    my wife is polish so when ever we visit her parents we go to the dentist. lucky for me i have not had to have any work done, but would not hesitate to go there to have it done.
  • My wife is Filipino and for some while now I have had my eyes tested and bought glasses whenever we go over there - much cheaper - Oakley frames at 'own brand' UK prices. One time we went, it was (tactfully) suggested that I see a dentist about my crooked stained teeth (ex smoker - never bothered me - I don't have to look at them!!). I had not even considered cosmetic dentistry in the UK so have no idea about price, but I had 8 teeth on the bottom and 4 on the top corrected in three seesions ALL PAIN FREE WITH NO ANAESTHETIC (no, I have no idea how that works...) at a total cost of £35. This was 18 months ago, I have had no problems with them, my UK dentist is very impressed by the quality of the work, my Filipino dentist reckons I might need them re-doing in 10 years (big deal!!). Return flight to Manila from the UK costs around £400, and The Philippines is a wonderful country for a holiday.
  • Denzelpuppy
    Denzelpuppy Posts: 20 Forumite
    I have literally just returned this week from Budapest after having extensive dental work carried out which included 3 bridges, 4 veneers toth whitening, and bonded fillings for £3K I was quoted over here in the UK £385 just for one crown as there are no NHS dentists in our area available. I went to "The Implant Centre" in Budapest (https://www.implantcentre.hu) I was met at the airport, £80 return Easyjet Luton- but Ryan Air will start from nottingham in October) driven to my arptment(£150 for the week and brand new) which they had arranged for me, was collected and returned each and everyday, the clinic had specialist Dr's for various aspects of Dentistry , Maxiofacial surgeons, Implant specialists etc and even a Smile designer, all spoke perfect english, the treatment was A1 the equipment was the best I'd seen and I felt totally at ease and I am a real nervous patient, my treatment was completed within 5 days. It is time these Licensed Bandits posing as Dentists in the UK woke up and smelt the roses and realised they soon wont have a industry, if they dont stop ripping people off 3K in budapest compared to £14K in the UK do the sums it's a no brainer!!!!!
    if i had known then what i know now
  • Jaystar_2
    Jaystar_2 Posts: 18 Forumite
    The standards of medical and dental care in South Africa are very high and, given the present exchange rate, very cheap too.
    I have relatives in Durban and often have dental work during my visits to them. Another friend of mine had a nose job during a weeks holiday in Cape Town, he was very impressed with the work and spent his recuperation period suntanning on the beach!
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