Government Petrol Price Petition

[squidykins]

Hi everyone

Sorry if this is in the wrong place didn't now where to put it.

The government has set up a petition on lowing of petrol prices

Please click the link http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Lowerduty30/ (http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Lowerduty30/)

and sign up. Thank you. :T

This is a genuine petition.... Not Spam

[roddydogs]

And what tax would you like to rise to make up the shortfall?

[frag]

Well a tyax that tax's everyone not just the motorist! Easy target over and over again!
Gordon Browns money train!
Higher fuel price affects the price of everything you buy!
Instead of another tax why not reduce our outlay, Iraq and afganistan spring to mind! Or giving countless millions to african countries that hate our bloody guts!

[Gazza68]

Well a tyax that tax's everyone not just the motorist! Easy target over and over again!
Gordon Browns money train!
Higher fuel price affects the price of everything you buy!
Instead of another tax why not reduce our outlay, Iraq and afganistan spring to mind! Or giving countless millions to african countries that hate our bloody guts!

Here Here Frag

[roddydogs]

Tyax? tax on fuel affects everything and everyone, not just motorists

[mrsdinozzo]

The *Goverment* set up this petition?? And no doubt they'll *fiddle the figures* so it shows no one is bothered about the obscene costs of fuel!!! Dubai and Saudi must be laughing behind their hands at all this ***p we Brits are putting up with...they only pay about 8p a gallon!!!

[Daisymac]

And what tax would you like to rise to make up the shortfall?

Raise tax on alchohol, cigarettes, etc etc, stop paying benefits to the people who just cant be bothered to work, why is it the motorists have to suffer ?, my Dad who is a pensioner can barely afford to run his car anymore with the rising fuel prices, he had to go to hospital the other day and took the bus, that cost him £5.00 to go 6 miles !!!, so public transport is also an expensive option.

[savemoney]

That bit below is wrong it isnt the government that has set up the petition they mealy allow people to host them there

"bring fuel prices back to an acceptable level"

The person who started the petition doesn't define what a acceptable level is.

The petitions are mealy a exercise on the government to appease voters, it rarely if at all does any good. The price of fuel of recent months has nothing to do with the government, more to do with supply and demand and greedy speculators


The government has set up a petition on lowing of petrol prices

[Farway]

my Dad who is a pensioner can barely afford to run his car anymore with the rising fuel prices, he had to go to hospital the other day and took the bus, that cost him £5.00 to go 6 miles !!!, so public transport is also an expensive option.

Why did he not use his free bus pass, provided by this same government

There could be a problem of course if the appointment was before 0930, but would Patient Choice, provided by this same government, not cover that as well?

[nathanp]

The *Goverment* set up this petition?? And no doubt they'll *fiddle the figures* so it shows no one is bothered about the obscene costs of fuel!!! Dubai and Saudi must be laughing behind their hands at all this ***p we Brits are putting up with...they only pay about 8p a gallon!!!

the problem with the english people more so in the UK is they are damn lazy, and sit back and take everything that they are not happy with. im not saying i agree with you on your post or not but i do think that people need to start putting the action speaks louder than words theory into practice. end of rant.

[dnomyar]

This petition, is not set up by the government. The government set up the website so people can set up petitions on line and this has been submitted by a member of the public. The good thing for the government with e petitions is that they don't have the embarresment of national or international news when a march reaches downing street with a petition signed by a million people. Thus an other form of spin to keep the minions quiet!.. I don't think that any petition I have ever signed on line has ever made one bit of difference to anything. E petions are a con!

Every one should email their MP to lobby for a reduction in fuel tax. If we all did this then someone may listen and take notice.

[thrustmaster]

Cities should introduce trams and trains should be used more often.. Cars and Planes are killing the environment.. We should be able to ride a bike to work but the roads are not friendly for cyclists either because of traffic. I don't see a problem with the price of petrol.. Fingers crossed it will work as a deterrent to those killing our planet.

[brightonman123]

hatever. sign anyway.. then have a good chuckle at some of the rejected ones!

[baccyman]

And what tax would you like to rise to make up the shortfall?
if the paracite MP's stopped grabbing our taxes for there expences and stopped wasting our money on a pointless war that was all about oil then there would not be a shortfall.

[chadders1966]

Jeepers - can some of you people not use spellcheckers? Makes my head hurt reading some posts.

[baccyman]

Cities should introduce trams and trains should be used more often.. Cars and Planes are killing the environment.. We should be able to ride a bike to work but the roads are not friendly for cyclists either because of traffic. I don't see a problem with the price of petrol.. Fingers crossed it will work as a deterrent to those killing our planet.
i live in Stevenage and we have got cycle tracks that run by the side of all the major roads in the town and you still have idiot cyclists riding on the roads instead of the cycle tracks and then they moan about the roads being too busy and not enough is done for the cyclists,
and this country is one of the lowest poluters and we are getting hit the hardest because our government wants to look good in the eyes of the world.
i dont buy all this rubbish about global warming there are too many agency involved in this and they are looking after there own jobs so they come up with this argument all the time.

[Nomad25]

This is a genuine petition and has 250+K signatories, a thread has been going for some time, here's the link:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=952931

but as you can see from one of the posts - Gordon Brown ordered it to be removed. This is unconfirmed.

[baccyman]

This is a genuine petition and has 250+K signatories, a thread has been going for some time, here's the link:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=952931

but as you can see from one of the posts - Gordon Brown ordered it to be removed. This is unconfirmed.
that would be because this country is becoming a dictatorship under labour and not a democracy any more,

[Nomad25]

I agree, but even more so, a nanny state. However, knowing of GB's tantrums if things don't go his way, nothing surprises me any more.

[freejunkie]

The only way to make an impression to the goverment is not to buy petrol at all and walk........ and who is going to do that?

An old friend of mine told me that in the 60s or 70s the goverment tried to raise the price of beer in pubs, people were so outrage they still went to the pub but noone would buy any beer or sprirts, only pop or juice.................It didnt take long for them to dropped the prices back again.
Money talks B******t walks.

[ged1980]

that would be because this country is becoming a dictatorship under labour and not a democracy any more,

any more ? we have always been told what to do

[Rex_Mundi]

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[mountainchrisriver]

This is still in the wrong place... it should be in the sticky on the referrers board... where there is a thread specially for this useless dross... ;)
:D

[mrsdinozzo]

but as you can see from one of the posts - Gordon Brown ordered it to be removed. This is unconfirmed.

I doubt it was Nanny Gordon...more like Captain Darling had apoplexy when he heard about the petition and threw a tantrum until Nanny shoved a dummy in his mouth and promised to have a *quiet word with the fairies at the bottom of the garden..*

[anewman]

How about a chav tax where you are taxed for being chav ASBO scum?

How about taxing the richest people more and closing tax loopholes?

How about cutting red tape and making loads of civil servants redundant by streamlining the Governments systems and taxes etc?

[Daisymac]

Why did he not use his free bus pass, provided by this same government

There could be a problem of course if the appointment was before 0930, but would Patient Choice, provided by this same government, not cover that as well?

He had to be at the hospital for 8AM and this government dont provide bus passes that can be used in peak hours, he also has waited nearly 3 months for this appointment so the patient choice provided by this government was not much use either ! :rolleyes:

[Daisymac]

How about a chav tax where you are taxed for being chav ASBO scum?

How about taxing the richest people more and closing tax loopholes?

How about cutting red tape and making loads of civil servants redundant by streamlining the Governments systems and taxes etc?


Oh I like these ideas :j but fear I may feel the wrath of a few Civil Servants ... sorry guys

[anewman]

Pass this on to as many people as possible!
No thanks.

[bicycle_repair_man]

" How about taxing the richest people more and closing tax loopholes?"
People on high incomes are already taxed at a rate of 40% for income tax alone. it wouldn't be fair to target the rich exclusively otherwise there would be no incentive for anyone to get a successful career. Also its quite alarming to see the number of motorists who waste fuel by insisting on reaching 40 mph in built up areas within a few seconds of the traffic lights changing to green and tailgating those sensible ones who dare to stick to the 30mph limit.

[goldspanners]

i also feel the rich should not be taxed higher,or the motorist,why tax success?
instead tax lazyness,if you cant be arsed working then you get nothing.

[anewman]

" How about taxing the richest people more and closing tax loopholes?"
People on high incomes are already taxed at a rate of 40% for income tax alone. it wouldn't be fair to target the rich exclusively otherwise there would be no incentive for anyone to get a successful career.

But when you get a 6 figure salary like £500,000, an extra 10% tax is only an extra £50k, and they still take home £250k, far beyond most peoples needs yet sufficient to keep such people happy in the job. When many people are expected to be get by on under £3,000 a year based on the rate of Jobseekers allowance http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/jcp/stellent/groups/jcp/documents/websitecontent/dev_012059.pdf and most people are expected to be pleased with a take-home pay of £8,700 a year on minimum wage (which is not much more than Jobseekers allowance when you slap on all the costs you get when in work such as rent, council tax, transport to work etc). £250k a year is a complete dream, and an extra 50k tax is neither here nor there when you get £250k anyway.

Decreasing taxes for those earning the lowest wages and increasing minimum wage would help make work more appealing - as would decreasing benefits and increasing taxes on booze and fags.

[Dylanwing]

And perhaps this Government might like to consider scrapping ID cards, which will be costly, un-necessary, and looking at the IT Companies involved, a total shambles. Or not doing the crazy road pricing (GB may have announced it is scrapped, but work goes on quietly) - Huge set-up and running costs, evaded by unregistered/ overseas cars, and will mean cars avoid Motorways. Or scrapping wasteful PFI, the Government equivalent of paying off a mortgage with a credit card. Never mind sacking Civil Servants, get rid of the Consultants, pointless overpaid leeches. Stop contracting out, we pay more for a worse service.
As oil is slowly running out, the Government need to shift taxation away from motorists, as that income stream will eventually dry up. Or maybe invest the revenues in providing cheap alternative transport, so that it is green, and not just wasted on the usual NuLabour carp. Still, with oil running out, and our Gas and Leccy getting ever dearer, (Dodgy suppliers, and another 'benefit' of Privatisation) isn't it a pity that the UK doesn't have heaps of coal underneath it!
Love and peace to all, except Politicians, and I hope I get detained for 42 days and not charged as £42,000 would come in very handy.