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mogwai
09-01-2008, 2:20 PM
You know the ad where the girl spits out the mouthwash and theres bits in the sink? Apparently this mouthwash acts to detach bacteria and residue from your mouth and you can actually see the bits after you spit. Has anyone tried this? Is it any good?

And do the 'debris' bits decrease the longer you use it?

BlondeHeadOn
09-01-2008, 3:32 PM
I always thought that was a load of rubbish - my dentist said so too. But I could be wrong.....

What my dentists really said was that the only thing those mouthwashes clean out is your wallet!

:rotfl:

floyd
09-01-2008, 4:45 PM
My dentist, hygenist and surgeon (all at different practices) all say not to bother with mouthwashes because as long as you brush properly with a fluoride toothpaste and floss properly and give your tongue a brush too there shouldn't be any need for anything like that.
The only exception is after I had oral surgery (gum flap surgery) and was told to swill with Corsodyl for the first day while the gum healed instead of brushing

Toothsmith
09-01-2008, 6:20 PM
I'd agree with floyd!

I'm sure those bits are only coagulated salivary protein as well.

Unless of course the mouthwash can inflate bacteria to 100x their natural size!!

skyrocket
09-01-2008, 6:21 PM
apparently if you swill your mouth out with oil and water you will get the same results as dentyl ph. some people swear by the oil thing. :confused:

jrrowleyws
09-01-2008, 6:23 PM
I'd agree with floyd!

I'm sure those bits are only coagulated salivary protein as well.

Unless of course the mouthwash can inflate bacteria to 100x their natural size!!

I always thought that too toothsmith, and I had some with lots of saliva in my mouth and the amount of bits had increased loads. Mabe it removes something from the teeth too but im pretty sure it is saliva that makes most of the bits!

Plus both flavours taste rank!

moomin_white
09-01-2008, 10:02 PM
don't dismiss Dentyl Ph mouthwash completely though as it has 0.05% sodium fluoride in it -so it can help sensitivity and those who have a high risk of decay.
it's also alcohol free which is preferable to Listerine with it's high alcohol content.
those bits that come out though...hmm! i think it's just a chemical reaction!

mogwai
09-01-2008, 10:03 PM
ok, i gave in and bought some. The green one (mint one) does indeed taste rank, and i can't imagine clove (YUCK) tasting any better. Its kind of plasticy and it makes me gag!

I was wondering if the bits were just stuff rather than real bacteria and debris. I guess I will keep using this, and see if improved dental hygiene leads to less 'bits' over time.

This is very well reviewed though, will update on the morning breath thing tomorrow LOL :D :D

nickismee
09-01-2008, 10:09 PM
I bough some of the cherry one a while ago, its still sat in my bathroom nearly full, its foul stuff.. and no, i never got any bits in the sink!

Toothsmith
09-01-2008, 11:43 PM
don't dismiss Dentyl Ph mouthwash completely though as it has 0.05% sodium fluoride in it -so it can help sensitivity and those who have a high risk of decay.
it's also alcohol free which is preferable to Listerine with it's high alcohol content.
those bits that come out though...hmm! i think it's just a chemical reaction!

Something like Colgate Fluoriguard is much better though wouldn't you say, particulary the AF one (Alcohol free)?

frivolous_fay
10-01-2008, 12:11 AM
Glad I spotted this thread, I was considering getting some but it sounds repulsive and pointless.

moomin_white
10-01-2008, 12:01 PM
Something like Colgate Fluoriguard is much better though wouldn't you say, particulary the AF one (Alcohol free)?

only difference is the taste :) i guess mint flavour is probably more palatable than cherry or clove though!

DdraigGoch
03-09-2008, 12:57 AM
ok, I'll put my hand up to actually LIKING the clove Dentyl. I find that, though it may not actively do anything positive for my oral hygene, it DOES encourage me to remember to clean my teeth properly. I only wish they still made the Dentyl toothpaste - it was the wierdest toothpaste in the word, sort of black frogspawn and it felt really odd, but strangely refreshing.... but maybe that's just me!

I do only buy it on BOGOF though, am I excused?

Olympika
03-09-2008, 9:05 AM
^^ think I saw the toothpaste in the dentist surgery yesterday, though think it was classed as a tooth 'gel'?

I like the clove mouthwash too! though am on Corsodyl daily now.

jenniewb
03-09-2008, 7:06 PM
Wll I have to say I don't agree with mouthwash overall being worthless, in the past I used to think it was just a waste of money, until I got a gum irritation resulting in root canal treatment- painful as it was on 3 nerves, only 2 of which had died' under the stress.

I was advised to use mouth wash, I did for about the 2 weeks the bottle lasted me then gave up as I decided it was a waste of money.

I was back at the dentists with another irritation problem very shortly after. Not in the same place as the root canal either for those who assume its a post operative thing!

I then saw the Crortisol type and used this under the advice of my dentist, not really believeing it would work but buying it really to prove a point to the dentists and already booking in my mind my next day off work when I would be back to deal with a further infection.

But no further infection.

I did think it could be some post operative thing at first- I dont know how my mouth works. I stopped using the mouth wash I was using as it was expensive and used the Tesco Value type.

Irritation came back shortly after in another part of my mouth....
Then read the back of the label- does not protect against bacterial infection- it was literally a mouth freshener I was using!

Moral? Read the label! not all mouthwashes were created equally! and the ones with some sort of protection or addition that gets rid of bacteria really do work.

It could be I should just brush my teeth for longer, but to be honest, I dont have an all expensive toothbrush that magically stops after 2 minutes, nor do I own a stop watch. So if mouthwash insures I dont have to visit the dentist and fork out more money, then I am with it.

£20 bill for dentist vs £4 bill for mouthwash. I know which one I would pick!

webitha
03-09-2008, 7:43 PM
y elder 2 kids love the cherry one, and it gets them to brush their teeth better its a competition with them to see who has the least, hey it gets them brushing properly, so im prepared to keeep buyin the stuff, and my 7yr old is the only one in her class with all her milk teeth and no fillings
is that good?

hotcookie101
03-09-2008, 7:53 PM
I LOVE both the clove and the cherry Dentyl. I don't like the mint ones and I have tried various other mouthwashes and they all make me gag. I buy it when its BOGOF or cheap though as it is pricey :(

Loopy Girl
03-09-2008, 8:59 PM
y elder 2 kids love the cherry one, and it gets them to brush their teeth better its a competition with them to see who has the least, hey it gets them brushing properly, so im prepared to keeep buyin the stuff, and my 7yr old is the only one in her class with all her milk teeth and no fillings
is that good?

It might get them cleaning their teeth better but then all that careful cleaning and putting the flouride on the teeth via the toothpaste is then washed away down the sink. :confused:

Children should no use a mouthwash unless specifically been prescribed by a dentist and they certainly should not use adult mouthwashes as most have alcohol in them and alcohol can be linked to oral cancer.

That's great that your 7 year old has no fillings or extracted teeth - if all kids were like this I would be out of a job!!!:D

Jojo the Tightfisted
04-09-2008, 8:48 PM
My hygienist recommended all of us using fluoride mouthwash, and the dentist confirmed this a couple of months later at the checkup, so I just do as I'm told.

We all have 100% perfect teeth - myself at 35 , DD1 at 15 and DD2 at 9 - no fillings, the only extractions being my 2 impacted upper wisdom teeth at age 20. It is true, though, that both DDs appear to be the only ones in their classes without fillings or extractions - and, as for me, as a mum with none - it appears to be unheard of!

We use Dentyl because we all quite like the taste - there are 4 different flavours. It's alcohol free and doesn't sting in the way that the cheaper ones all seem to have done.

The hygienist also said any toothbrush will do if we do the job properly, but I will admit to extravagance in using the Colgate buzzing toothbrushes, as the shine they seem to give the gnashers makes it feel like a rerun of the Osmonds when the three of us smile at once!

I even find myself saying that I like going to the dentist - then people look at me very strangely!

Loopy Girl
04-09-2008, 10:06 PM
My hygienist recommended all of us using fluoride mouthwash, and the dentist confirmed this a couple of months later at the checkup, so I just do as I'm told.

We all have 100% perfect teeth - myself at 35 , DD1 at 15 and DD2 at 9 - no fillings, the only extractions being my 2 impacted upper wisdom teeth at age 20. It is true, though, that both DDs appear to be the only ones in their classes without fillings or extractions - and, as for me, as a mum with none - it appears to be unheard of!

We use Dentyl because we all quite like the taste - there are 4 different flavours. It's alcohol free and doesn't sting in the way that the cheaper ones all seem to have done.

The hygienist also said any toothbrush will do if we do the job properly, but I will admit to extravagance in using the Colgate buzzing toothbrushes, as the shine they seem to give the gnashers makes it feel like a rerun of the Osmonds when the three of us smile at once!

I even find myself saying that I like going to the dentist - then people look at me very strangely!

Fair enough. I am not going to argue with a dentist;) I was trained by the NHS and teach small kids and their parents about dental health and these are the messages that I give to them.

Yeah I use a electric toothbrush too - it just feels much better to me :)

TheDoolallyDilly
05-09-2008, 2:10 PM
My eldest son's consultant orthodontist recommended alcohol free mouthwash - like Dentyl PH or the Colgate one. He said under no circumstances to use an alcohol one (like Listerine). I am not sure why though! My boys, 16 and 13, have no fillings, I have 4 - all put in before I was 12 because I had a 'drill for gold' dentist when I was a child. Never had one since - and I'm 44!!

Loopy Girl
05-09-2008, 3:57 PM
. He said under no circumstances to use an alcohol one (like Listerine). I am not sure why though!

Because the alcohol ones dry your mouth out and dry mouth means no saliva which can lead to tooth decay and secondly, alcohol can contribute to oral cancer (amongst many other things obviously)

There is actually nothing wrong with mouthwashes per se it's just that it's always drilled (yes, I meant that pun!!) into you to use it after brushing and as I have said earlier all that happens is it washes all the flouride from the toothpaste away although there is flouride in mouthwash.

The best time to use it is actually middle of the day when you don't brush your teeth as that means you have a 3 hit of flouride.

TheDoolallyDilly
05-09-2008, 8:50 PM
I thought it was something like that LoopyGirl.

red
08-09-2008, 12:27 PM
I think it is all a bit of a gimmick. My dentist said that mouthwashes are not only unnecessary they can be harmful as they disrupt the good bacteria in the mouth (kind of like taking antibiotics do on the stomach I guess) Best thing to do is to have a decent toothbrush, brush regularly and properly, floss regularly and save the money you would have spent on a mouthwash for something more exciting!!!!

Loopy Girl
08-09-2008, 12:34 PM
I think it is all a bit of a gimmick. My dentist said that mouthwashes are not only unnecessary they can be harmful as they disrupt the good bacteria in the mouth (kind of like taking antibiotics do on the stomach I guess) Best thing to do is to have a decent toothbrush, brush regularly and properly, floss regularly and save the money you would have spent on a mouthwash for something more exciting!!!!


Like a Mars Bar!!!!!! Oh I'm joking, I'm joking!!!!!!:rotfl: :rotfl:

Yes you are right. However in my job, we don't preach or admonish people for their dental health, merely try and educate people. If I am teaching kids and I talk about mouthwash and one little lad says 'but my Mummy says it's okay'...am I going to bellow that Mummy is wrong? Of course I am not...what I do do however is slip a leaflet in his bag and hope that Mummy sees it.:D

Have to say though that I do use a mouthwash during the day, mainly as I am a smoker and want to refresh my mouth (makes a change from chewing gum) and I also get a flouride hit. Goes without saying it's an alcohol free one.;)

All dentists will tell you what you have been told. Further down the 'food chain', we try to look at things holistically and not just tell you what you should and should not do. Every family is different and small changes are the way forward.

brownbake
27-11-2008, 8:28 AM
As a both a nicotine and caffeine addict sometimes I suffer from a furry tongue - I know yuk!!

I have found Dentyl to be an excellent product and really does remove the crap especially if used with a tongue scraper.

At the moment Asda have got a 2 for £3 offer so have stocked up!! Especially seeing that it is £2.90 individually.

HTH