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Deals
24-07-2007, 2:58 PM
there ...pain always move around and regular backache but the pain moves around. doctors dont know why. we think could be arthirities but not sure about the constant tiredness. partner is taking multi vitamines but not changing his fatigue either. started taking ginsing tablets now to see. we have done all the routine blood tests that include diabetes, thyroid...any ideas. thanks

Leopardlady
24-07-2007, 3:34 PM
Have you asked dr about ME or chronic fatigue, have a l;ook on action for me site. May sound a bit drastic, but having been ill for 10 years and the first few were lived trying to ignore the symptoms.
The diagnosing of ME means eliminating everything else so should mean you don't miss anything else it could be.

I hope this helps feel free to pm me if you want to know more about ME or CFS.
Take care

Deals
24-07-2007, 3:58 PM
to have a lot of the symptoms. we will try and eliminate wheat over the next few days to see if that makes any difference and maybe go back to doctors after this. Have you asked dr about ME or chronic fatigue, have a l;ook on action for me site. May sound a bit drastic, but having been ill for 10 years and the first few were lived trying to ignore the symptoms.
The diagnosing of ME means eliminating everything else so should mean you don't miss anything else it could be.

I hope this helps feel free to pm me if you want to know more about ME or CFS.
Take care

Savvy_Sue
25-07-2007, 12:43 AM
Are you both suffering from the same symptoms? If so, is it worth checking you don't have carbon monoxide leaking into the home anywhere?

belfastgirl23
25-07-2007, 9:21 AM
Have you had blood tests? Glandular fever might also be a possiblity...

Justie
25-07-2007, 9:25 AM
Are you both suffering from the same symptoms? If so, is it worth checking you don't have carbon monoxide leaking into the home anywhere?
I was just going to say the same thing

otherwise it sounds like it could be an ME/ CFS type thing - although this is nigh on impossible to diagnose. Arthritis I think can be tested for by looking at blood tests and the GP should be looking at the white count etc anyway to see if there's an underlying infection.

MrsNozzle
25-07-2007, 12:44 PM
Hi There,

you say you have been tested for underactive thyroid. However, the kinds of tests they do may not sure the true picture. You may just be 'boarderline' which would be fine for some people, but would make others feel very tired and rubbish. Everyone has their own optimum levels. Don't be fobbed off with this - if you do a bit of interwebby research you'll find out a lot more about this pesky gland!

Speaking from experience, I had all the symptoms you described, and was told my thyroid was only very slightly underactive. However I was prescribed thyroxine and it has (slowly) made a real difference. My tests now show that my levels are right in the middle, but I know if I stopped taking it I'd feel cr*p again.

OP, have you put on any weight recently? Especially around the abdomen? Is there any history of underactive thyroid in your family? Some people also have slight hairloss, or loss of eyebrow hair!

Obviously could be something completely different but worth a bit of research. There's nothing worse than feeling knackered all the time, no energy etc, without knowing exactly why.

Mrs N
XXXX

Deals
31-07-2007, 9:54 PM
he has not put on loads but a bit. he has always suffered from back pain which seems to move around quite a lot so never really at the same place. suffers also from insomnia. anxiety. gets easily angry and doesn't realise he is. i am trying to eliminate things to see what it could be. thanksHi There,

you say you have been tested for underactive thyroid. However, the kinds of tests they do may not sure the true picture. You may just be 'boarderline' which would be fine for some people, but would make others feel very tired and rubbish. Everyone has their own optimum levels. Don't be fobbed off with this - if you do a bit of interwebby research you'll find out a lot more about this pesky gland!

Speaking from experience, I had all the symptoms you described, and was told my thyroid was only very slightly underactive. However I was prescribed thyroxine and it has (slowly) made a real difference. My tests now show that my levels are right in the middle, but I know if I stopped taking it I'd feel cr*p again.

OP, have you put on any weight recently? Especially around the abdomen? Is there any history of underactive thyroid in your family? Some people also have slight hairloss, or loss of eyebrow hair!

Obviously could be something completely different but worth a bit of research. There's nothing worse than feeling knackered all the time, no energy etc, without knowing exactly why.

Mrs N
XXXX

santashelper
04-08-2007, 6:55 PM
he has not put on loads but a bit. he has always suffered from back pain which seems to move around quite a lot so never really at the same place. suffers also from insomnia. anxiety. gets easily angry and doesn't realise he is. i am trying to eliminate things to see what it could be. thanks


i suffer from anxiety moody exhaustion tiredness general aches and pains my dr diagnoised me with stress and depression 4 years ago which was eventually termed as a breakdown i find the weather makes a difference if it is sunny it energises me enough to do some things but if not i feel exhausted

CrazyCat
07-08-2007, 5:15 PM
I'd like to put my voice behind MrsNozzle - thyroid disease is notoriously difficult to diagnose and GPs often overlook it and/or misinterpret the test results, so just because you've been told it's ok that doesn't necessarily mean he hasn't got a problem with it.

Symptoms are wide-ranging and non-specific, but once you get the right treatment it can turn your life around.

Tiredness, moodiness, general aches and pains, inability to concentrate or think clearly... the list is endless.

Please do some research and reassure yourself that you can rule it out, if not then go back to the GP and ask to be referred to an endocrinologist.

Good luck!

TheWaltons
07-08-2007, 5:20 PM
Diabetes? Low blood sugar levels?

Mild Depression?

Anaemia?

melancholly
07-08-2007, 6:09 PM
could even by syphalis with those symptoms!

i'd advise returning to the GP for a chat rather than self-diagnosis from the internet!

nephasu
07-08-2007, 6:30 PM
If you dont get any joy from the tests your having you might want to see a rhumatologist i had the same symptoms and 10 months later i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia which is hard to dignose but can be done eventually.

Good luck

honeypop
08-08-2007, 11:46 AM
If you dont get any joy from the tests your having you might want to see a rhumatologist i had the same symptoms and 10 months later i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia which is hard to dignose but can be done eventually.


Was just about to post the same thing, I went YEARS before finally being diagnosed with fibromyalgia, for all the good that did anyway as a lot of medical people won't recognise it as an actual condition, but then apparently ME was like that a few years back (so my GP tells me) and now it is more widely recognised.

sharon59
08-08-2007, 6:22 PM
If you dont get any joy from the tests your having you might want to see a rhumatologist i had the same symptoms and 10 months later i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia which is hard to dignose but can be done eventually.

Good luck
fibromyalgia is a possibility-l have it and feel very tired cant sleep-wake up a lot-and aches and pains that move-hands feet back knees-and lots of swelling in hands.

Ted_Hutchinson
08-08-2007, 8:55 PM
fibromyalgia is a possibility-l have it and feel very tired cant sleep-wake up a lot-and aches and pains that move-hands feet back knees-and lots of swelling in hands.
This website tells you what/where the doctor is looking for to make a Fibromyalgia diagnosis. (http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/simplepage.cfm?ID=-281739221)

For those who don't understand the terminology there is a picture here (http://www.aafp.org/afp/20001001/1575_f1.gif). of the tender points.

Because just about everyone with Fibromyalgia is also vitamin D3 insufficient there is a school of thought that questions Is Fibromyalgia Just a Vitamin D Deficiency? (http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/report.asp?story=Is%20fibromyalgia%20just%20a%20vi tamin%20D%20deficiency&catagory=Vitamin%20D,%20Fibromyalgiahttp://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/report.asp?story=Is%20fibromyalgia%20just%20a%20vi tamin%20D%20deficiency&catagory=Vitamin%20D,%20Fibromyalgia)

Unfortunately our health professionals are very badly informed about Vitamin d insufficiency which is why 60% of us are Vitamin D insufficient throughout the year (http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/3/860). Just look at the latest advice from The Primary Care Question Answering Service. (http://www.clinicalanswers.nhs.uk/index.cfm?question=5791) It is such a sick joke you don't know whether to laugh or cry.


But readers must take note of the fact that while doctors continue to prescribe Ergocalciferol they are failing to prescribe the best most effective form of Vitamin D (http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/84/4/694).

While they continue to think and be informed that 800iu D2 is appropriate to treat Vitamin D insufficiency (http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/85/3/649)they will continue to fail their patients.