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wookie_woo
12-07-2007, 8:06 PM
Hi

Has anyone tried Sheer Make up from the Guthy-Renker infomercials?

It looks pretty good but I am v wary of these infomercials.

Is it actually any good? Is the home delivery tie in worth it? If so what do you get in the 90 day pack?

Has anyone had problems cancelling?

Thanks all!

Nile
12-07-2007, 10:02 PM
Hello wookie_woo

I'll move your thread to the 'Health & Beauty' board.

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Nicifer_noonoo
12-07-2007, 10:46 PM
I'm not sure about Sheer Cover, but there are lots of mineral make ups available. We use them in the salon, and they do take quite a bit of getting used to, but the results are great. A company called Lily Lolo make excellent quality mineral make up, from foundation to eyeshadows, and they do samples of foundation for only 99p, which last about a week. Bargain :)

Scrumshie
15-07-2007, 10:11 PM
Loreal make a True Match mineral powder and the girls in the really big Boots stores will always give you a make over using the powder if you ask. Much cheaper than sheer cover.

chickalittle
16-07-2007, 9:54 AM
I found the L'oreal true match heavy both in coverage and appearance. I've not used Lily lilo but have used Bare Escentuals for several years. The products last ages - you don't need to wear a lot. The main thing is you do need really good brushes to apply it and also build the colour up - it takes several minutes before you really get to see how it looks and it's easy to apply more too soon and end up looking like a clown! There was another thread about mineral make up on here not so long ago so might be worth doing a search for it and having a read thru?

Nicifer_noonoo
16-07-2007, 1:22 PM
Personally I'd recommend staying away from the 'high street' make up brands like L'oreal for mineral make up. Check out the ingredients list - not much different to their non mineral foundations! I agree with chickalittle, Bare Escentuals are great, as is Jane Iredale. The reason I went with Lily Lolo is because you can try before you buy so to speak, to make doubly sure that the shade you choose in full size is perfect for you.

sticher
17-07-2007, 11:09 AM
Thanks Nicifer. I was looking at the Sheer Cover last night on TV and did some searches this morning. Instead I have now ordered several samples from Lily Lolo. Can't wait to get them now!

Nicifer_noonoo
17-07-2007, 1:40 PM
Nice onr sticher :) They normally arrive within three days or so. They really are fabulous, I wouldn't wear anything else :) Do let us know how they are for you.

Nic

wookie_woo
24-07-2007, 1:40 PM
I had actually orderd the starter kit when I posted originally as I was having a little post ordering anxiety!

However I am SO pleased with the Sheer Cover products!

I was pretty worried about ordering from an infomercial but the effect, on my skin at least, is great.

It has fab coverage but doesn't look too heavy. I even went to the gym direct from work and it was still in place after a workout!

Yes I know I am sounding like one of those gushing women on the commercials but being ridiculously pale any blemishes show up like beacons. So I have spent years either walking around with sore red skin or caked in foundation that then rubs off showing a red bit!

Also the cleaner and moisturiser you get with the kit really suits my skin as it now looks better than it did even if I don't have makeup on.

I haven't received my 90 day supply yet, just the starter kit so we will see how much they actually supply.

veronarona
25-07-2007, 2:35 AM
I think that Sheer Cover is a genuine mineral makeup range but their brushes look too cheap - I agree with chickalittle, good brushes are a must, particularly for the foundation. You can get a high quality "kabuki" brush from eBay cheaper than from the various MMU (mineral makeup) websites but I can't see the one I'd recommend at the mo. Bare Escentuals is not the very best/softest kabuki but it's very OK for starters.

Bare Escentuals foundation powder gives great coverage with a slightly metallic sheen that (probably) you either love or hate - and it takes quite a lot of "buffing" (quickly and easily done with your kabuki), where many other brands do not require that, and buffing can help cause a prickly sensation on the skin, combined with some unknown ingredient that you are sensitive to.

It's very easy to get addicted to trying out all the different brands/formulas, especially those available from across the pond, where there are numerous forums for discussion/advice.

I could go on for hours :T and frequently do :rolleyes:

veronarona

skyrocket
27-07-2007, 12:26 PM
I use a kit that comes from Southern Magnolia Minerals which i get from ebay (toddnbarb) they are really inexpensive and great coverage but they also come with a fantastic kabuki brush.
i'm a real mineral makeup convert and wouldnt go back to anything else!

veronarona
27-07-2007, 5:57 PM
I use a kit that comes from Southern Magnolia Minerals which i get from ebay (toddnbarb)I've bought from them too, they're so reliable! And US to UK delivery is not much over a week.

veronarona

continualdiamond
27-07-2007, 9:57 PM
I used to use sheer cover, i ordered the 90 day supply, totally love it, then i started buying my shade off ebay, much much cheaper.

Though only last week i decided to give another mineral make up a try. While i do love sheer cover, it's a bit pricey. I couldn't get my tub of shade on ebay for anything under £15 (4g tube).

So i tried a different type of mineral foundation off ebay, from a really good seller and has a shop etc. I got 9 diff things for only £15, 2 concelears, foundation, blush, bronzer, finishing powder, finishing veil, 2 brushes and 2 samples of eye shadow. Im really impressed with it, it does exactly the same as sheer cover, but it going to last me longer because everything is mineral, as you would know sheer cover concealer is not mineral at all.

Big plus for me though is the price and the quality is exactly the same.

skyrocket
27-07-2007, 10:22 PM
that sounds like the kit i get from southern magnolia. they are so helpful too if it doesn't match they send out some more minerals until it does!

Harri2
03-08-2007, 1:08 PM
can't seem to find these on e-bay do you know if they are still in business?

veronarona
03-08-2007, 5:44 PM
They're American, so on eBay.com:

http://stores.ebay.com/Southern-Magnolia-Minerals

veronarona :)

mandye1
04-10-2007, 10:49 AM
hi i use sheer cover every day its fabulous it covers up all blemishes and red patches :) it well worth buying x

Mrs pbradley936
04-10-2007, 12:50 PM
I like this one best:
http://www.lauramercier.com/products/flawless_face/products/foundation/mineral_powder_spf_15/ (http://www.lauramercier.com/products/flawless_face/products/foundation/mineral_powder_spf_15/)

If you are near London, Selfridges or Harrods stock it. But there is a firm on ebay that is very good and a lot cheaper. Details here:
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/mineralfoundationplace (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/mineralfoundationplace)

veronarona
04-10-2007, 2:40 PM
That particular company have confirmed to me that they include rice powder (albeit 'kosher') in all their foundations, so theirs can't qualify as "so pure you can sleep in it" - rice powder can nourish bacteria, which minerals can't.

Similarly, Laura Mercier's foundation contains "15 active amino acids...", and L'Oreal's mineral foundation has other stuff in too.*

For those wanting to try pure mineral foundation, read the ingredients (and, some say, avoid bismuth, which may cause itching). Even then, you may need to try different brands/blends before you find one that suits - some, like Bare Escentuals, can accentuate pores.

*That's not to say that Laura Mercier's and L'Oreal's are not wonderful foundations.

veronarona :)

B&H
02-12-2007, 7:36 PM
Thank you for this thread! Was actually watching the commercial for sheer cover and saw bare escentuals yesterday on QVC. Wasnt sure which one to go for, but I have now ordered my samples from Lily Lolo. If I like them might go for the stater kit from american company.

JoeyEmma
02-12-2007, 7:50 PM
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=539618&highlight=everydayminerals.com

here have been some similar threads like the above one. Have a look at my comments on Everyday Minerals. I stand by it, its the best makeup I have ever worn. I have never been able to wear makeup everyday without breaking out since finding this. Its amazing and half the price of Bare Escentuals, which contains bismuth and some can find it to be itchy on the skin.

1Foxylady
06-12-2007, 8:23 PM
Hi all

Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to apply the powder.
I've just received some sample pots from lily lolo :-)

The pots are very small and none of my brushes will fit :-(

Thanks

JoeyEmma
07-12-2007, 10:02 AM
If you have a look on youtube and do a search for mineral makeup, you will find some video tutuorials on there.

You can also read this
http://www.everydayminerals.com/g?t=viewDocument&incParam=application_tutorial

sunny_london
15-12-2007, 12:26 AM
So i tried a different type of mineral foundation off ebay, from a really good seller and has a shop etc.

OK, I'm going to be like the infomerial too. I bought sheercover and I love it. But I'm really interested in anything that's cheaper. What was the name of the product you bought on ebay? Was it southern magolina or something different?
Thanks

sunny_london
15-12-2007, 12:42 AM
Hi all

Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to apply the powder.
I've just received some sample pots from lily lolo :-)

The pots are very small and none of my brushes will fit :-(

Thanks
Have a look at the sheercover.com (not .co.uk) website. It has all the tips and tricks videos on it, about how to tap the brush off, start from the outside and work in etc. It's full of sales pitch too, but not too much considering the products work and they do show you how to put it on effectively.

I am going to have a look at the Lily Lolo products. I have very sentive skin and sheercover is a a little itchy, (not so much that I won't wear it though!:D) so I'm going to look out for the non-bismuth products too.

Rikki
02-02-2008, 4:19 PM
Okay...........don't wear foundation full stop but though I might give this ago as its not meant to feel like your wearing a mask.

Where do I start?
What colour?
What product?
How easy is it to put on?

I don't want to make an expensive mistake.

MissMassEffect
02-02-2008, 6:24 PM
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=539618&highlight=everydayminerals.com

here have been some similar threads like the above one. Have a look at my comments on Everyday Minerals. I stand by it, its the best makeup I have ever worn. I have never been able to wear makeup everyday without breaking out since finding this. Its amazing and half the price of Bare Escentuals, which contains bismuth and some can find it to be itchy on the skin.

Thanks for that, have just ordered some to try out :D

veronarona
03-02-2008, 12:50 PM
My favourite Mineral Makeup tutorial

Done at home by an "ordinary" young American girl - I posted it on several forums a few years ago, maybe even here, but here it is again:

http://community.livejournal.com/bareescentuals/21179.html?view=86203

Where do I start?
What colour?
What product?
How easy is it to put on?

I don't want to make an expensive mistake.

You have to take the plunge and order samples or (easier to use) small pots. And a good quality kabuki brush to start out with. See eBay for both, check sellers' feedback for the specific products and for their reliability as sellers.

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=mineral+foundation

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=mineral+foundation

Some ladies who have difficult skin find that they can use minerals when they can't use liquid/cream foundations, and a lot of them seem to enter into a lifetime quest to find the perfect colour and finish - all brands vary.

veronarona

veronarona
03-02-2008, 12:52 PM
My favourite Mineral Makeup tutorial

Done at home by an "ordinary" young American girl - I posted it on several forums a few years ago, maybe even here, but here it is again:

http://community.livejournal.com/bareescentuals/21179.html?view=86203

Where do I start?
What colour?
What product?
How easy is it to put on?

I don't want to make an expensive mistake.

You have to take the plunge and order samples or (easier to use) small pots. And a good quality kabuki brush to start out with. See eBay for both, check sellers' feedback for the specific products and for their reliability as sellers.

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=mineral+foundation

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=kabuki+brush&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&a6=-24&a14=-24&a65911=-24&a10244=-24&alist=a6%2Ca51%2Ca66416%2Ca56%2Ca10244%2Ca14%2Ca65 911&pfmode=1&reqtype=1&gcs=2073&pfid=3393&pf_query=kabuki+brush&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sadis=200&fpos=SW16+1LW&sabfmts=1&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fgtp=

Some ladies who have difficult skin find that they can use minerals when they can't use liquid/cream foundations, and a lot of them seem to enter into a lifetime quest to find the perfect colour and finish - all brands vary.

veronarona

sunny_london
10-02-2008, 12:45 PM
Okay...........don't wear foundation full stop but though I might give this ago as its not meant to feel like your wearing a mask.

Where do I start?
What colour?
What product?
How easy is it to put on?

I don't want to make an expensive mistake.

Hey Rikki,

I've now tried the SheerCover (after seeing the Guthy Renker informercial) and Lily Lolo's via their 99p samplers - both which where recommeded by people on this forum.

Personally I've found the SheerCover nicer on my skin and giving a better coverage. Both are very light, not like lthe liquid foundastions that I've worn for years.

Getting the colour right is a challenge via mail order. I ordered 4 Lily Lolo sample at 99p each and none of them are really the right shade But then again I'm mixed race so that always poses a challenge. When I ordered the SheerCover trial pack I didn't get my shade selection totally right either. They send two colours as part of the trial pack and only one is good for me, but its a good match. Knowing I could send it back for a full refund within 30days is good, but to be honest I don't feel the need to. When I order my next batch, I'll just go a shade darker.

If you're not sure, I say try both for yourself. If you spend £5 at Lily Lolo you get 4 decent size trial pots to try and with SheerCover you have a month to send it back if it's not right (even if the pots are empty - nice ;) ). I then tried Max Factor's version in Boots (from the on-display samples) , but it's nothing in comparison to these two, it's much heavier and pastie.

Have to admit, it is the best makeup I've ever tried and I've tried a lot, hahaha. Mac need to come up with something really good to get me back

Here's the links:

http://www.lilylolo.co.uk (http://www.lilylolo.co.uk/)

http://www.sheercover.co.uk (http://www.sheercover.co.uk/) (to order), but watch all the infomicals on sheercover.com http://www.sheercover.com/tipstricks.php?pactvid=15b9d7ca94a6a7114724ac24fc9 d47f1 which show you how to put in on - it is really easy. These video guides come with the trial pack too.

countrygal
10-02-2008, 7:03 PM
Hi
I have a question about applying mineral make-up, I have ordered some from the Southern Magnolia website and am waiting for it to arrive. However one thing I am confused about is how do I apply the powder after I have used my face serum and moisteriser as my face is quite 'tacky' for quite a while after? Do I have to wait until the tackiness goes? Sometimes this takes quite a while and I don't always have lots of time in the morning when I am rushing out to work. I don't want the powder to get caked onto the moisteriser.
Any advice?
Many thanks
CG

veronarona
10-02-2008, 8:54 PM
You should definitely apply to a dry face - you'll have to figure out how to plan your routine so there's a big gap between cream-slapping-on and powder-buffing-on.

The very word 'routine' in the sense of 'methodicalness' is foreign to me, so the best of luck.

veronarona

stephbridetobe
28-02-2008, 7:09 PM
hi im very interested in buying the sheer cover i saw advertised today but just wondered how much was in the starter pack and if you are commited to buy further amounts from them ???

veronarona
28-02-2008, 7:44 PM
All the info you need should be here:

http://www.sheercover.co.uk/

Except... the site is "under construction". Here are some T&C:

8. Ordering Products

8.1 IMPORTANT: When you order your introductory set of Products, you agree that we may send you the same Products in the same quantities every 60 days from the date of your first order and that we may debit the credit card you submit for your first order for the same amount (including applicable sales tax and postage) on each subsequent dispatch of Products. We will send you a confirmatory email prior to each dispatch of Products. Unless you notify us that you want to cancel these automatic repeat orders you will continue to be sent the same Products and your credit or debit card will be charged the price and relevant sales tax and postal charges every 60 days. Once you have purchased your first Products, the price for such Products will change if:
(a) you change your address and the applicable sales tax or postage changes accordingly; or
(b) our prices advertised on the Site increase in which case, we will notify you the new price and the first of your Products to be affected will be the first batch of Products sent after the price change.
Price changes will not affect your cancellation rights.
8.2 You may cancel future automatic purchases at any time by sending an email to cancel@sheercover.co.uk. On receipt of your email, we will make every reasonable effort to cancel your automatic purchases before any further Products are dispatched to you. If, however, your cancellation is not processed by us in time to prevent a further dispatch of Products to you, you can cancel such Products when you receive them. Your cancellation rights in relation to dispatched Products are set out in clause 11.
8.3 It is your responsibility to inform us of any change of address or other relevant details such as payment card details.


veronarona :)

Snuggles
28-02-2008, 9:12 PM
I have been reading all the threads about mineral make-up and I am very interested in trying it. At the moment, I use a liquid foundation followed by pressed powder, and I don't really like the feel of it, my skin feels "clogged" up.

One thing I don't understand about mineral make up though - it's just powder right? I can't help thinking if I applied a powder straight onto my bare skin, it would just look, well, powdery and caked :confused: Does it really go on smoothly?

Also I have combination skin with open pores - is a mineral foundation suitable for this skin type?

veronarona
29-02-2008, 1:49 PM
it's just powder right? I can't help thinking if I applied a powder straight onto my bare skin, it would just look, well, powdery and caked :confused: Does it really go on smoothly?

Also I have combination skin with open pores - is a mineral foundation suitable for this skin type?
"Ordinary" powder is made from talc, flour and suchlike. Mineral foundation powder is made from very finely crushed minerals with nothing else (though be careful, some of the brands that are cashing in on popularity do add extras - Laura Mercier do, and L'Oreal, for example).

Different brands combine different minerals in different proportions, and the finish therefore varies, but it should never look powdery and your skin should not look "made up" hardly at all.

PORES - Stay clear of Bare Escentuals unless you are willing to invest in a "finishing powder" they call Mineral Veil (which contains cornflour [they call it 'cornstarch'] so it's not pure minerals - it's a veil for minerals, not a veil of minerals), which reduces the appearance of pores. BE has bismuth oxychloride in it which gives it its sheen. The foundation is spectacularly wonderful on some areas of the face but pores show up like mad and any fine, saggy skin under the eyes looks terrible.

I personally wouldn't buy Sheer Cover because of the commitment and being disorganised so probably forgetting to cancel repeats. There are a lot of good sellers on eBay, including America, just check out their ingredients and their feedback. Get pots if possible, because sample 'baggies' (as they are called) are a nuisance to use.

For heaven's sake just go for it and see how you get on. I don't mind at all if anyone wants to PM me for specifics. I'm sure most questions have already been answered in this very thread.

ALWAYS ALLOW MOISTURISER TO DRY IN THOROUGHLY BEFORE APPLYING MINERAL FOUNDATION. AND GET A GOOD BRUSH.

veronarona

Snuggles
29-02-2008, 7:03 PM
Thanks for all the advice veronarona, I am going to get some sample pots and give it a go!

veronarona
29-02-2008, 9:03 PM
I should say, re the brands that contain other ingredients besides minerals... it doesn't mean to say they don't give fantastic results, it just means they do contain stuff that may 'nourish' bacteria, which pure minerals do not as they are totally inert - that's why they say "so pure you can sleep in it". Once you put on finishing powders or other products containing these other ingredients, you lose that bonus.

That's as I understand it!

veronarona

jeannieblue
01-03-2008, 4:08 PM
"Ordinary" powder is made from talc, flour and suchlike. Mineral foundation powder is made from very finely crushed minerals with nothing else (though be careful, some of the brands that are cashing in on popularity do add extras - Laura Mercier do, and L'Oreal, for example).

Different brands combine different minerals in different proportions, and the finish therefore varies, but it should never look powdery and your skin should not look "made up" hardly at all.

PORES - Stay clear of Bare Escentuals unless you are willing to invest in a "finishing powder" they call Mineral Veil (which contains cornflour [they call it 'cornstarch'] so it's not pure minerals - it's a veil for minerals, not a veil of minerals), which reduces the appearance of pores. BE has bismuth oxychloride in it which gives it its sheen. The foundation is spectacularly wonderful on some areas of the face but pores show up like mad and any fine, saggy skin under the eyes looks terrible.

I personally wouldn't buy Sheer Cover because of the commitment and being disorganised so probably forgetting to cancel repeats. There are a lot of good sellers on eBay, including America, just check out their ingredients and their feedback. Get pots if possible, because sample 'baggies' (as they are called) are a nuisance to use.

For heaven's sake just go for it and see how you get on. I don't mind at all if anyone wants to PM me for specifics. I'm sure most questions have already been answered in this very thread.

ALWAYS ALLOW MOISTURISER TO DRY IN THOROUGHLY BEFORE APPLYING MINERAL FOUNDATION. AND GET A GOOD BRUSH.

veronarona


I've seen the Sheer cover adverts - and thought, yeah right....

After reading through this thread - I am so eager to try it or Lily Lolo or Southern Magnolia - but how good is the coverage?

Firstly, I'm in my fifties now. Secondly, I've have alot of thread veins and red blotches - look like a heavy drinker when not have make up on! Thirdly, seem to be prone to spots in the Winter! Great...

If anything can cover it all.... to me it would be nothing short of a miracle! I've got foundations that cover but looks yukky - and seem to make my skin worse and itchy!! And have no idea why I've gone all 'italic' - what did I hit?? :D

veronarona
01-03-2008, 6:04 PM
Funnily enough I was just doing a bit more research on eBay and the www, and I discovered that Sheer Cover lists bismuth in its ingredients and it also contains Rooibos (South African Red Bush tea) for antioxidant powers. That means it's not purely minerals.

Jeannie, have you looked at the tutorial I put a link to in this thread? That girl puts more powder on her brush than I would do, but then I'm older (even older than you) and have to be more subtle :p BUT continue...

1. Buy samples from Lily Lolo (http://www.lilylolo.co.uk/lily-product1.php?cat=1). I've just ordered 2 sample foundations, under £4 delivered, pay with PayPal or you can use cards.
2. Follow method in the above tutorial BUT use very, very little on the brush, swirl well and tap-tap-tap to get excess off before smoothing on willy-nilly (you don't even need a mirror to put it on, you can't make a mistake!) and buffing a bit (not so necessary with mineral brands other than Bare Escentuals).
3. Don't look at yourself for 10 minutes at least.
4. Look in mirror, decide if sufficient coverage, if not, put on another fine layer.
5. Repeat steps 2, 3 & 4 as many times as you like!

I cannot find you the excellent kabuki brush that I would recommend, so buy a cheapo for starters and then invest in a really good one later.

Different brands give differing finishes, you need to find one to suit you and you'll only bother to do that if you have 'difficult' skin - nearly all of them give fantastic coverage, some people use concealer too but just put your toe in the water with foundation.

As long as you're not sensitive to a particular ingredient (like bismuth), and as long as you don't pierce your skin with a bad brush, you should find that minerals actually calm your skin - I think it's the zinc. I have rosacea and breakouts, it's good for my skin.

I can't say any more, I'm exhausted, it's so stressful recommending things when you know everyone's different and some people will take offence if you don't get it exactly right for them.

veronarona :rolleyes:

jeannieblue
01-03-2008, 8:05 PM
Veronarona,

Thank you - from what you describe, we have similar skin...!

Funnily enough, I took the chance and ordered some sample pots from Lily Lolo this afternoon, together with a kabuki brush - don't know if it will be a good one or not!

I'll probably, if I receive it, try it next weekend as I'm rushing like a looney in the mornings for work. I know that ordinary foundation is aggravating my skin and making it worse. And I have to put something on - it doesn't cover it all but it looks less awful, if that's possible. Do you find you have to 'top' it up during the day? I don't normally take make up to work with me!

I really appreciate your help, advice and honesty.

:beer: :D

veronarona
02-03-2008, 3:30 PM
with a kabuki brush - don't know if it will be a good one or not!
The LilyLolo looks like a good one, I didn't like to say 'get it' because it's synthetic, which I've never tried. Do let us know how you get on with it.

Do you find you have to 'top' it up during the day? I don't normally take make up to work with me!Whether I should or not, I just don't! But I've seen many girls say they're pleased and surprised that they don't have to.

Don't forget, let moisturiser dry, then swirl, tap & buff :) Your pots will be absolutely minute, the lids will be too small for swirling - dip your brush in and use a little china or plastic pot to swirl in - mini Christmas pudding pots are a good shape/size, but they have to be de-greased furiously, they hold their fats even after washing normally.

Nuff said!

veronarona

jeannieblue
02-03-2008, 5:51 PM
The LilyLolo looks like a good one, I didn't like to say 'get it' because it's synthetic, which I've never tried. Do let us know how you get on with it.

Whether I should or not, I just don't! But I've seen many girls say they're pleased and surprised that they don't have to.

Don't forget, let moisturiser dry, then swirl, tap & buff :) Your pots will be absolutely minute, the lids will be too small for swirling - dip your brush in and use a little china or plastic pot to swirl in - mini Christmas pudding pots are a good shape/size, but they have to be de-greased furiously, they hold their fats even after washing normally.

Nuff said!

veronarona

I just soooo know, that I'm gonna be cr*p at this to start with! But will persevere! Think maybe synthetic maybe good for me as have animal allergies! Will def keep you informed.

Good to hear that it could last me for the day... :D

Thanks for all your help x

Mrs pbradley936
02-03-2008, 8:02 PM
I have Sheer Cover and love it. I also like Laura Mercier. Some I found on ebay is Sheer Miracle again from the USA but I spend a lot of time there so stock up when there. For example Laura Mercier is $35 in the US and £35 in London but £35 is about $70!

I sent for the kit from Sheer Cover (while in the USA) and it cost $19.95. It contained 2 shades of powder, some concealer, 4 nice brushes, some masacra and some samples of lip gloss plus a DVD to show you how to use it. I cancelled after the first delivery because I do not want the commitment of a payment every 90 days.

Rachie B
03-03-2008, 2:06 PM
does anyone with Rosacea use mineral make up ?

does it cover redness ?

TIA

shawtj2
03-03-2008, 2:26 PM
Try the bare escentuals collection - flawless mineral face powder that covers without concealer and looks natural. You can buy it off ebay cheap, the brushes and the powders are great! I have thread veins on my cheeks and it covers them.:j

Rachie B
03-03-2008, 2:41 PM
Try the bare escentuals collection - flawless mineral face powder that covers without concealer and looks natural. You can buy it off ebay cheap, the brushes and the powders are great! I have thread veins on my cheeks and it covers them.:j

thank you :)

will take a look now

Mrs pbradley936
03-03-2008, 3:46 PM
On the DVD that comes with Sheer Cover there is a woman with a red birth mark on her face and it covers that. You have to put an extra layer or two over problem areas rather than all over. So she would swirl a bit on the birthmark, wait acouple of seconds thens a swirl all over her face, then check in the mirror and if necessary swirl a bit more over the birth mark.

Rachie B
03-03-2008, 4:38 PM
sounds fab ! and just what I need !

veronarona
05-03-2008, 5:02 PM
does anyone with Rosacea use mineral make up?
As stated in my earlier posts, I do. If you have 'European' fairish skin, choose a yellow-based colour and it covers really well. You can also layer different colours, but that's for after you've found out if mineral foundation suits you at all.

Bare Escentuals was the first mineral foundation I used and it gave (according to my best friend) fanTASTic results. HOWEVER, after wasting ££ on brushes because I thought they were irritating my skin, I learned that it was the bismuth in BE.

If you've got pores (yes, we all have, but you know what I mean) it can look as if you've gone over them with a glittery pin. This doesn't happen with non-bismuth brands. And if you have loose skin under the eyes, it makes it look ruched :eek: (= puckered). You will also have a metallic sheen on your skin, which you'll like... or not! But you may look positively air-brushed and gorgeous.

= = = = =

A couple of days ago I received this info re Sheer Cover:

It appears that Sheer Cover may have slightly modified their mineral makeup formulation and that it now may contain bismuth.

The old list of ingredients was: Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide (12.00%). Other Ingredients: Boron Nitride, Bisabolol, Aspalathus Linearis Leaf Extract, Green Rooibos Tea

This is the new ingredient list:
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide (12.00%). Other Ingredients: Boron Nitride, Bisabolol, Aspalathus Linearis Leaf Extract, May Contain (+/-): Bismuth Oxychloride (CI 77163), Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Mica, Iron Oxides (CI 77491, CI 77492, CI 7749.

= = = = =

Here is some info re bismuth (thanks to Cosmetics Cop):

bismuth oxychloride. The standard primary ingredient included in most powders that are referred to as “mineral makeup.” The claim for bismuth oxychloride is that it is all-natural and better for skin than talc. In fact, in many ways talc is a more natural, unadulterated, pure ingredient than bismuth oxychloride. Bismuth oxychloride, which seldom occurs in nature, is manufactured by combining bismuth, a by-product of lead and copper metal refining, with chloride (chlorine compound) and water. It’s used in cosmetics because it has a distinct shimmery, pearlescent appearance and a fine white powder texture that adheres well to skin. Bismuth oxychloride is heavier than talc. Pure bismuth is a naturally occurring, grayish-white powder. It and its derivatives are used as skin protectives, thickeners, and absorbent agents. Bismuth oxychloride was permanently listed by the FDA as a coloring agent in 1977 and as a synthetic ingredient (Source: The International Cosmetic Ingredient Dictionary and Handbook, Eleventh Edition, 2006).

= = = = =

I haven't tried my Lily Lolo samples yet (I have absolutely loads of different brands, some of which are in unlabelled 'baggies' so I've forgotten what they are :( ). But it costs less than £4 delivered for 2 very tiny pots and, to save buying a brush, if you've got a fat blusher brush you can wash (shampoo is fine, don't be surprised if dye comes out) and blot it and leave it on its side to dry, don't stand it with the bristles upwards because water can seep into the ferrule and eventually loosen the bristles. That's if you're strapped for cash and it is only a temporary ruse. I'll be interested to hear how Jeannie gets on with her synthetic brush, they're not normally first choice for mineral foundation, I believe they hold more/too much powder?

As I may have warned, I can go on, and on, and on...

veronarona :p

jeannieblue
05-03-2008, 8:52 PM
Just a quickie Veronarona!

Tried it this morning - the Lily lolo and the synthetic brush - I also ordered the concealer which put on first as my skin in places is a very very luminous bright red! Please with the cover, please with the foundation as am a new swirler/tapper/buffer - no idea if I did it right! But - the look was far better that have been gettin with ordinary foundations, felt so much nicer too.

As have quite a 'break out' going on at the moment - obviously the lumps and bumps were standing out, but on the whole - it looked and felt loads better!

Can't comment on the brush - because haven't used another type so don't know if this one is not as good as the er - dunno what the other ones are made of!

Ideally i could with some time off work to play around and experiment - its quite exciting to find something that doesn't aggravate me. My skin does feel alot calmer - sounds silly as its only my first day, but taking off my make up tonight, my skin is usually quite sore, and its not.

I also would like to confess in a not 'moneysavingexpert' way, I have also ordered tonight some Sheer Cover to try.... but i do get 5 free brushes (not really free i know) to try - so can compare then!

I may become and addict with all this stuff - and need treatment... :eek:


So much for my 'just a quickie'............

I've loved everyone's support, help and input - keep it up! :D

jeannieblue
15-03-2008, 3:00 PM
Bright horribly red blotchy/spotty skin.... it would appear that my skin does not like Lily lolo...:eek:

I've got a brand new kit from Sheer Cover which I am not in the mood for trying - well can't at the moment as skin is very itchy, very lumpy and very sore.

I'm at the moment trying a new treatment called - Piriton tablets! And my sister has gone out to get me the anti histamine cream too. I can't go out looking like this - thank goodness its the weekend - and don't know what I will do re work on Monday.

Has this happened to anyone else? Really need some HUGE MAJOR help here - my skin was bad before..... It's sooo embarrassing.....:o

I've been following the mineral make up thread too.... this all sounded too good to be true, i never have any luck!

Mrs pbradley936
15-03-2008, 3:19 PM
Ask your doctor or pharmacist but hydro cortisone cream worked wonders for me when I had a bad flare up of seborrheic dermatitis around my hairline and either side of my nose. I had been given a contraceptive pill far too high in androgens for me and got it sorted out in the end. You can buy the cream over the counter but it says not to use on the face but my doctor said that I could very sparingly and temporarily.

jeannieblue
15-03-2008, 3:41 PM
Its pretty much all over my face - but worse on nose - that whole T section really and across my cheeks. Not an attractive look..........

Just don't know what to cover it on Monday for work.........

Will try and get that cream asap Mrs B! Thanks

Mrs pbradley936
15-03-2008, 3:53 PM
Be prepared for them to ask "have you used this before?" and "We are obliged to tell you not to use it on you face or broken skin or for more than 7 days".

jeannieblue
15-03-2008, 7:06 PM
I got given E45 cream!!!! As if...

The piriton tabs have relieved it a bit, which I knew it would - you don't get to a certain age without knowing what is ok and what is not.

Thats a lie - I had high hopes for the mineral make up and only sussed it was not 'agreeing' with me for many days - but I was distracted by potential tooth abcess come infected tooth and 'ohmygod the pain' til worked it out this morning.

In other words, its not been my best week.

Mrs pbradley936
15-03-2008, 8:00 PM
Well if it was this one http://www.e45.com/main.asp?pid=3390
you should be OK. If the regular one then it will not do much at all!

jeannieblue
15-03-2008, 8:39 PM
Not that one - bu**er. E45 dermatological.............

Its calmed down a bit with piriton - which knew it would cos allergy - but its knowing what to use to look decent in future - ie Monday for work etc. and really had high hopes of the mineral make up. I've always had sensitive skin but at my age, mid fifties, am really getting fed up!

Estee lauder did a good 'compact' foundation that suited me - but then stopped it. My luck...........

veronarona
15-03-2008, 9:15 PM
Poor ((((Jeannie)))). I would be amazed if your flare-up was MMU (mineral makeup) related. I wonder if the tooth abscess is a sign that your whole system is "in a bad place" at the moment? I haven't used my LilyLolo samples and will do so immediately (my rosacea pattern is exactly like yours so we'll see...), and I'll also investigate whether any other users have attributed such a terrible reaction to minerals.

Back in a day or three ;) Meanwhile, am thinking of you with great sympathy.

veronarona

jeannieblue
16-03-2008, 12:29 AM
Poor ((((Jeannie)))). I would be amazed if your flare-up was MMU (mineral makeup) related. I wonder if the tooth abscess is a sign that your whole system is "in a bad place" at the moment? I haven't used my LilyLolo samples and will do so immediately (my rosacea pattern is exactly like yours so we'll see...), and I'll also investigate whether any other users have attributed such a terrible reaction to minerals.

Back in a day or three ;) Meanwhile, am thinking of you with great sympathy.

veronarona
Thank you for your sympathy - have had zero at work! But then, it is a 'man' environment.

Can't sleep - jaw ache!

It does seems as if the flare up/rash is all in the area where I put the Lily Lolo concealer - I've given it all to my sister, including the brand new Sheer cover package, she is going to try it. Tried a bit of the sheer cover myself this morning, just on my neck to see what the cover and colour would be like, and it went a bit red and angry looking.

The first couple of days it all felt fine and calming (make up that is). The abcess turned out to be a fractured and infected tooth, which has been drilled, filled etc - not pleasant to say the least, and have to go back for root canal work - can't wait, not! I did actually ask the dentist if he thought the rash/skin condition was related, and he just said that if you get run down or similar, it can then result in dental problems, not other way round.

Its def not a spread of spots/acne and a definite allergy rash. I have wondered if its more the brushes rather than the make up - but even when applied concealer without the brush it was very itchy.

having read about the concealer from elemental beauty that has healing qualities - I'm tempted, but I've spent so much out already. Really don't know what to do. My skin is so super sensitive.... Its always happiest in the sun, which is supposed to be not healthy!!!

Appreciate any advice/experiences etc.

Better try and get some sleep!

suki1964
16-03-2008, 10:26 PM
I did actually ask the dentist if he thought the rash/skin condition was related, and he just said that if you get run down or similar, it can then result in dental problems, not other way round.

Now thats why hes a dentist and not a doctor nor a dermatologist :)

Im just wondering if in fact you are not suffering with Seborrhoeic dermatitis. This is something that has plagued me most of my life and as Im getting older the flare ups are looking worse. The areas that I get it are the T- Zone and across my cheeks - usually when under stress or run down through illness. It can look like rosacea but its not and its very sore indeed.

It could be that this is what it is and that the tooth problem was causing it to flare up - just at the same time you started to use the mmu. Personally I would give everything time to settle down and try again. When Im having a severe flare up I use nizoral shampoo, not just on my scalp but I wash it over my face and let it sit a while before rinsing off, can sting a bit but will take the long term burn/itch away a lot quicker

lexa34
17-03-2008, 1:25 AM
Lorks. You poor thing. I am still at the academic stage of mineral face makeup and still confused but want want which is just minerals but the best quality for the best price!!??!

I hope your skins settles soon and we all get sorted on this front!

x

Update: just ordered lots from everyday minerals. Hope I won't be sorry! Will keep you posted if interested.

veronarona
17-03-2008, 8:36 AM
Update: just ordered lots from everyday minerals. Hope I won't be sorry!From what I read they're one of the best out there, but I've never got around to ordering samples from them. I'm sure they do more 'finishes' than any other manufacturer. You've got me at it now, I may succumb... No, I've simply got too much already: BE, Jane Iredale, Botany (sensational but defunct range from Texas), Monave, JTSang (eBay), Pure Luxe, Southern Magnolia, um... probably more.

Shortly after applying LilyLolo I got an itchy spotty patch on one side of my nose and later I flared up on the other side. Is this just another one of my flare-ups, or have LilyLolo got a contaminated batch? Or what?

veronarona :huh:

yenners
17-03-2008, 8:51 AM
I ordered from everyday minerals based on recommendations from this site and don't regret it at all. It seems to give a better finish than the BE that I have - more natural, and they have so many more shades than BE that I was able to finc a better match to my skin tone.

jeannieblue
17-03-2008, 8:27 PM
Now thats why hes a dentist and not a doctor nor a dermatologist :)

Im just wondering if in fact you are not suffering with Seborrhoeic dermatitis. This is something that has plagued me most of my life and as Im getting older the flare ups are looking worse. The areas that I get it are the T- Zone and across my cheeks - usually when under stress or run down through illness. It can look like rosacea but its not and its very sore indeed.

It could be that this is what it is and that the tooth problem was causing it to flare up - just at the same time you started to use the mmu. Personally I would give everything time to settle down and try again. When Im having a severe flare up I use nizoral shampoo, not just on my scalp but I wash it over my face and let it sit a while before rinsing off, can sting a bit but will take the long term burn/itch away a lot quicker
Think you may have something here - the shampoo - available in boots etc?

Also, what would you recommend re moisturiser and foundation - can't scare the customers looking the way I do, it is soooo embarrassing too.

I put some Estee lauder on today which covered - well, it wasn't red anymore and it dried and caked a bit, still looked awful but not as bad, just scaly and lumpy, not a great look - its so depressing.

I'm v tired and know I need a holiday but can't get time off or afford to go away - am really looking forward to 4 days off at the weekend, bliss

Mrs pbradley936
17-03-2008, 9:55 PM
You can buy a small bottle of Nizoral in Tesco but a large bottle you have to get from a chemist. It is not instant! I still think you should get some hydrocortisone. Something you can try if you have flakes of dry skin is about a quarter of a teaspoon of sugar along with whatever you wash your face with. It feels gritty but it gets rid of any flakes. Do not do that more than once a week.

suki1964
17-03-2008, 9:58 PM
I swear by Liz Earle, its the only thing gentle yet cleansing enough and Dr hauschka when I need something a bit stronger.

The Nizoral Shampoo can be bought in Boots, Sainsburys, tescos etc. Dont mistake it for nizerelle (sp) - completely different stuff. Now its not cheap at over £6 a bottle but if you see your GP and SD is diagnosed, then he can prescribe the larger bottle for you (will work out cheaper). However I use perhaps one small bottle a year so its not too expensive. I also use a dandruff shampoo at all times as I find it does help to keep it at bay usually.

Oh and just to add, I didnt find that the lily lolo samples covered it but the elemental Beauty ones I have tried do - without having to use concealers or anything extra and they are not irritating my skin at all

jeannieblue
18-03-2008, 8:17 PM
I swear by Liz Earle, its the only thing gentle yet cleansing enough and Dr hauschka when I need something a bit stronger.

The Nizoral Shampoo can be bought in Boots, Sainsburys, tescos etc. Dont mistake it for nizerelle (sp) - completely different stuff. Now its not cheap at over £6 a bottle but if you see your GP and SD is diagnosed, then he can prescribe the larger bottle for you (will work out cheaper). However I use perhaps one small bottle a year so its not too expensive. I also use a dandruff shampoo at all times as I find it does help to keep it at bay usually.

Oh and just to add, I didnt find that the lily lolo samples covered it but the elemental Beauty ones I have tried do - without having to use concealers or anything extra and they are not irritating my skin at all
Ah now, I was reading about elemental beauty... I remember reading that their concealer was also healing - think it was them. I've got to do something, I know that 'normal' foundation is aggravating it big time.

I'm looking forward to four days off over Easter as am sure stress doesn't help and I don't get many holidays! (Minimum!) I've also got patches of ezcema as well - which is wonderful.... My worst patch is always on the middle of my back where I cannot reach to put cream on. I've not got an OH so I have to suffer! Although when I did have an OH I probably suffered a hell of alot more!

jeannieblue
20-03-2008, 10:31 PM
Latest - for anyone not bored to death yet.........

My sister is doing well with my cast offs.......... I love her, but am jealous!

I've not as yet received the elemental beauty.

I've not taken any piriton since last weekend as they make me dopey - and can't be like that for work, although not sure they would notice.

I've also been really bad and put some of my betnovate cream on my face last two nights. Its really helped it. Not sure what long term damage could be....:o

No intention of losing any sleep regarding above action.. :D

veronarona
21-03-2008, 11:50 AM
Latest - for anyone not bored to death yet.........

Am never bored with MMU discussions ;) But I didn't reply since you were SO daft as to order Sheer Cover at great cost before you'd even tried the LilyLolo... which I haven't used since the first time when I got itchy spots either side of my nose :( Funnily enough I was just thinking about it, so I'm going to put some on now. It's like a whodunnit, I must know what caused your terrible flare-up.

I'm sure Betnovate won't do long term damage, just used on the odd occasion. But we 'roseates' must beware of thinning our skin.

veronarona :)

jeannieblue
21-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Am never bored with MMU discussions ;) But I didn't reply since you were SO daft as to order Sheer Cover at great cost before you'd even tried the LilyLolo... which I haven't used since the first time when I got itchy spots either side of my nose :( Funnily enough I was just thinking about it, so I'm going to put some on now. It's like a whodunnit, I must know what caused your terrible flare-up.

I'm sure Betnovate won't do long term damage, just used on the odd occasion. But we 'roseates' must beware of thinning our skin.

clemenzina :)

Think I shall refer to you as 'Miss Marple' from now on!

Fortunately I love my sister very much... so my loss is her gain! She's been brill and searching round chemists etc. for me - she's like my personal shopper!

I'm just plodding about the house today - I got the big shop done last night after work, so am make up free, except for some mascara.. fortunately I do not have to go out anywhere, so can't scare anyone!

My sister has experienced a bit of itching and a red patch from using the Lily Lolo. I've not spoken to her for a couple of days, she was going to try out the Sheer Cover next, so will contact her later and find out how she got on. She said how nice and light mineral make up feels - if I can find one that suits me, I would be very happy!!

The elemental beauty has not arrived yet, but until my skin settles - I'm still very very red, blotchy and spotty! I won't try it straight away. I feel relaxed knowing I have a few days off - so the stress factor may help too, as in lack of!

veronarona
21-03-2008, 12:48 PM
I forgot all about it - I did do a huge post but it was so headmistressy and telly-offy that I didn't submit it.

The Elemental Beauty contains allantoin (also known as 'udder cream' ;) ), that's why they claim it's healing. I rely on the zinc in MMU, it really does seem to work - when I'm not brought up in the itchies... I've just put the Lily Lolo on, we'll see what happens this time.

veronarona

jeannieblue
21-03-2008, 1:33 PM
Udder cream........... ooer.

Going to have to look that up now!

MrsE
22-03-2008, 9:54 AM
Jeannie

Poor you:mad: :mad: :mad:

Just saw your post telling me to read this thread.

Im 40:shhh: :shhh: :shhh: :shhh: :shhh: & my skin is not as smooth as it used to be. My pores are a little more open & visable then when I was young. My daughter has that mineral foundation & she put it on me. I didn't like it. When I put on foundation it goes into the tiny pores & fills them in, so my skin is smooth then with powder over it looks damn good for my age (I get comps about my skin they've never seen me without makeup :D :D :D I put that down to Liz Earle)
But the mineral makeup didn't fill in the pores, so you could see then & I didn't like that. They are quite small, thats why a dollop of foundation easily covers them, but I felt the mineral make up almost drew attention to them.

Apart from Liz earle, I don't know much about stuff for sensitive skin, as thank god I can use almost anything.

But I do think if you're over 30 then foundation & loose powder is the way to go I think.

If you like a really light coverage then NO.7 intelligent colour is nice.
If you like more coverage & long lasting then I'm using Estee Lauder double wear. They are also bringing out a light version of the double wear at the end of this month. No.7 loose powder is great, everyone I know who uses it rates it.

Start a thread Jeannie asking about nice foundations & powders for sensitive skins.

Go to the Estee Lauder counter & ask her for a sample od double wear, explain you are sensitive to many things.

BUY SOME LIZ EARLE;)

veronarona
22-03-2008, 11:09 AM
MrsE - Bare Escentuals is terrible for showing up pores (I think it's the bismuth in it), it can be 'cured' by putting Mineral Veil underneath or on top. The other brands I've tried do not leave you with that problem. However, it's beside the point if you are happy with your foundation and powder :j

Jeannie - I thought of you when I was browsing bathroom stuff at House of Bath the other day, then I forgot, then I remembered it in the middle of the night :cool: Here is a dispenser for putting lotion on your back - expensive, like a lot of HoB's stuff, but anyway, here's the link:

http://houseofbathuk.drct2u.com/productcache/HOB/BO6679/BF167BA.html.gz

veronarona

jeannieblue
22-03-2008, 11:46 AM
Jeannie - I thought of you when I was browsing bathroom stuff at House of Bath the other day, then I forgot, then I remembered it in the middle of the night :cool: Here is a dispenser for putting lotion on your back - expensive, like a lot of HoB's stuff, but anyway, here's the link:

http://houseofbathuk.drct2u.com/productcache/HOB/BO6679/BF167BA.html.gz

veronarona[/quote]
That's clever! And not that expensive if it puts me out of misery - better than grabbing a fork out the drawer and clawing it - really not a good thing to do but if you've ever had ezcema, you know that itch...........

eryn_kathleen
27-03-2008, 10:24 AM
I bought 6 samples from LilyLolo about a month ago. I put the foundation on (no concealer, just needed to blend my skin tone out), went to work with my skin feeling a little bit 'tight' but okay, and within a couple of hours was actually in pain! I left early, went home and washed my face. The Liz Earle Cleanse and Polish, even without using the muslin, stung my face really badly and my cheeks were bright red for a couple of days.

Someone else let me borrow her Bare Esscentuals and a different (freshly cleaned) brush, and that was better but still a quite tight and uncomfortable, even when using it over Liz' heavy-duty moisturiser and Superbalm oil on my cheeks. I never thought that my skin was particularly dry (it's combination, really) or sensitive.

I'm still determined to find the right mineral makeup, because I can't believe my skin is so freakish that none will work. I'm just really nervous about trying new brands now!

UPDATE: If anyone is reading this now, I actually went back to Lily Lolo; I'm just a bit more careful. I use Liz Earle Superskin moisturizer, allow it to absorb into my skin for at least 10-15 minutes, then apply Smashbox Photo Finish Primer underneath the mineral makeup. That seems to create enough of a barrier that the makeup doesn't irritate and dry out my skin. Before hitting on this combination, I had tested 16 different mineral makeup brands and I had nearly the same reaction (tight, uncomfortable skin) with all but 1 or 2, and those that didn't give me a reaction either slid straight off my face or looked like regular powder, not foundation, and really aged me. I think the Lily Lolo problem was exacerbated by the cold, dry weather and the wind.

MrsE
27-03-2008, 11:07 AM
Latest - for anyone not bored to death yet.........

My sister is doing well with my cast offs.......... I love her, but am jealous!

I've not as yet received the elemental beauty.

I've not taken any piriton since last weekend as they make me dopey - and can't be like that for work, although not sure they would notice.

I've also been really bad and put some of my betnovate cream on my face last two nights. Its really helped it. Not sure what long term damage could be....:o

No intention of losing any sleep regarding above action.. :D

Oh, I couldn't be left out:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I've ordered some Elemental (http://www.elementalbeauty.co.uk/p/product/0708144762/) Beauty:D :D :D

I've ordered lots of the 55p sample pots, the under eye brightner, the normal healing light concealer, a bronzer type powder.
I got samples of the mineral foundations & the loose powder.

eryn_kathleen
27-03-2008, 11:53 AM
I think I'm going to try the Elemental Beauty too...

Their 'Healing Mineral Foundation' doesn't contain any kaolin, and I'm wondering whether that's my problem. It is possible to be allergic to kaolin (though it doesn't seem to be very common) and it is a drying ingredient, so maybe it's just a bit too much for my skin in winter.

I'll let you know how I get on!

As a side note, I'm finding some of the things written about Bismuth Oxychloride online pretty funny, not because they're wrong about the bismuth but just because of... ignorance. One person says "When you use a product containing bismuth oxychloride you are pushing into your pores small metallic particles that will clog your pores." As opposed to pushing Iron Oxide (rust) into your pores? Or titanium, zinc, or chromium (all metals)? I'd love to know what this person thinks a mineral is!

And it drives me nuts when people refer to mineral makeup as being 'organic'. It's minerals. Minerals are not and never were alive. They weren't grown in free range conditions with no pesticides or antibiotics. More importantly, they're not carbon-based. There is no possible way in which they can be organic!!!

Okay, rant over. Sorry!!

suki1964
27-03-2008, 1:23 PM
I think I'm going to try the Elemental Beauty too...

Their 'Healing Mineral Foundation' doesn't contain any kaolin, and I'm wondering whether that's my problem. It is possible to be allergic to kaolin (though it doesn't seem to be very common) and it is a drying ingredient, so maybe it's just a bit too much for my skin in winter.

I'll let you know how I get on!

As a side note, I'm finding some of the things written about Bismuth Oxychloride online pretty funny, not because they're wrong about the bismuth but just because of... ignorance. One person says "When you use a product containing bismuth oxychloride you are pushing into your pores small metallic particles that will clog your pores." As opposed to pushing Iron Oxide (rust) into your pores? Or titanium, zinc, or chromium (all metals)? I'd love to know what this person thinks a mineral is!

And it drives me nuts when people refer to mineral makeup as being 'organic'. It's minerals. Minerals are not and never were alive. They weren't grown in free range conditions with no pesticides or antibiotics. More importantly, they're not carbon-based. There is no possible way in which they can be organic!!!

Okay, rant over. Sorry!!

I have an oily T zone and now as Im getting on in years the rest of my face is becoming rather dry but Im getting a smooth coverage with these minerals and really no irritation so far (using for around 2 weeks now although not every day and not all day cos I dont always want to wear make up)

Do go for the sample sizes - they are HUGE and the foundations come in wee vials which are so easy to use. Im using a tin lid to tip into and swirl and Im not even halfway through the sample I have decided to go with.

I emailed them last night to ask some questions about what colour blush and concealer to go with and I got an answer right back this morning with the offer of sample sizes to be popped in with my full size order of foundation

jojo1969
27-03-2008, 7:58 PM
I Have Just Purchased Some Trial Pots From Lily Lolo,skin Did Feel A Bit Tight To Begin With But I Actually Do Like Them Feels So Smooth And Natural Looking

jeannieblue
27-03-2008, 8:42 PM
JoJo - keep us posted - there is quite a few of us interested in the various mineral make ups and some of us have had a few reactions to different makes.

See Allantoin thread and thread about where to buy ingredients too.

Fern Merkin
28-03-2008, 7:48 AM
Im just wondering if in fact you are not suffering with Seborrhoeic dermatitis. This is something that has plagued me most of my life and as Im getting older the flare ups are looking worse. The areas that I get it are the T- Zone and across my cheeks - usually when under stress or run down through illness. It can look like rosacea but its not and its very sore indeed.


I too have this condition, I have found Oilatum shampoo a boon. Since using it twice a week I have banished the soreness and flakes, and that's about 12 months now. It's expensive but Home Bargains sometimes have it in. Worth every penny!

Mineral make up is exellent. Got some samples from ebay, little sachets but with a small brush for about £3, very portable. Lily Lolo samples arrived last nite, cant wait to have a go with them.:T

Destiny33
28-03-2008, 11:10 AM
Just a quick hi, been reading this thread with interest and have finally ordered some lily lolo samples.

Thanks for all the good advice given, cant wait to try them

:beer:

jeannieblue
28-03-2008, 8:54 PM
:D I too have this condition, I have found Oilatum shampoo a boon. Since using it twice a week I have banished the soreness and flakes, and that's about 12 months now. It's expensive but Home Bargains sometimes have it in. Worth every penny!

Mineral make up is exellent. Got some samples from ebay, little sachets but with a small brush for about £3, very portable. Lily Lolo samples arrived last nite, cant wait to have a go with them.:T

Fern,

Let us know how you get on - couple of us couldn't get on with the Lily Lolo - sadly I got a bad reaction and seeing as you've had seb derm etc, would be interesting to know if it agrees with you.

I'm trying elemental beauty at the weekend - and am hoping it will be okay - Suki said it doesn't make her itch, so I have high hopes.
:D

Fern Merkin
28-03-2008, 11:51 PM
:D

Fern,

Let us know how you get on - couple of us couldn't get on with the Lily Lolo - sadly I got a bad reaction and seeing as you've had seb derm etc, would be interesting to know if it agrees with you.

I'm trying elemental beauty at the weekend - and am hoping it will be okay - Suki said it doesn't make her itch, so I have high hopes.
:D

I haven't had a problem with LilyLolo (all day, just needed blotting about2pm, looked great and no itch) but I think that could be because my Seb Derm is under control. I have also tried this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-SHADES-FOUNDATION-SAMPLES-MINERAL-MAKEUP-FAIR-SKIN_W0QQitemZ110237250727QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11867 QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-SHADES-FOUNDATION-SAMPLES-MINERAL-MAKEUP-FAIR-SKIN_W0QQitemZ110237250727QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11867 QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262 )
It's nice stuff but I can't say it'l be any better for you as I can apparently use either. What is evident from their website is that they don't like hidden ingredients so you can check for anything you have problems with.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/returnallhealth-beautifulearth2006/Differences-in-Mineral-Makeup.html (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/returnallhealth-beautifulearth2006/Differences-in-Mineral-Makeup.html)
Best of luck with the elemental beauty!

jeannieblue
28-03-2008, 11:56 PM
I haven't had a problem with LilyLolo (all day, just needed blotting about2pm, looked great and no itch) but I think that could be because my Seb Derm is under control. I have also tried this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-SHADES-FOUNDATION-SAMPLES-MINERAL-MAKEUP-FAIR-SKIN_W0QQitemZ110237250727QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11867 QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-SHADES-FOUNDATION-SAMPLES-MINERAL-MAKEUP-FAIR-SKIN_W0QQitemZ110237250727QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11867 QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262 )
It's nice stuff but I can't say it'l be any better for you as I can apparently use either. What is evident from their website is that they don't like hidden ingredients so you can check for anything you have problems with.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/returnallhealth-beautifulearth2006/Differences-in-Mineral-Makeup.html (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/returnallhealth-beautifulearth2006/Differences-in-Mineral-Makeup.html)
Best of luck with the elemental beauty!

I'll be trying it tomorrow Fern! I am praying my hopes aren't dashed!

Nip on to the Vent forum and Spirit Group thread everyone and just keep typing the name in! Dreadful treatment...

crystalmooniris
29-03-2008, 12:02 AM
has anyone tried the avon mineral make up

jeannieblue
29-03-2008, 12:08 AM
has anyone tried the avon mineral make up
I don't know.......... I know that some makes are not pure minerals and you have to be careful, but I'm sure someone will know. Probably Veronarona - but I've not seen her on the thread for awhile.

Fern Merkin
29-03-2008, 12:27 AM
I don't know.......... I know that some makes are not pure minerals and you have to be careful, but I'm sure someone will know. Probably Veronarona - but I've not seen her on the thread for awhile.

She's probably a bit fed up of repeating herselfhttp://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif Twas Veronarona's info that put me onto mineral make up. V knowledgeable lady! All her posts on it are here somewhere, just need searching for. Worth the effort, I say!
crystalmooniris check it out, hun. won't regret it.

jeannieblue
29-03-2008, 12:42 AM
She's probably a bit fed up of repeating herselfhttp://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif Twas Veronarona's info that put me onto mineral make up. V knowledgeable lady! All her posts on it are here somewhere, just need searching for. Worth the effort, I say!
crystalmooniris check it out, hun. won't regret it.

Think Veronarona not only told us all about it on this thread but also on the mineral make up thread too. Go back a few pages and you'll find it - it is headed mineral make up something or other. I'd provide you with a link but I don't know how to do all that clever stuff. (eldest son in IT - he'd be ashamed). :eek:

She also had an itchy experience with Lily lolo and was going to try it again to see if it was just a flare up or the Lily lolo - hopefully she'll let us know soon.

She was also cross with me cos I kept buying different stuff and not being patient - I'm trying to be MSE but tend to be a bit like MrsE. :D I'll get there in the end.:o

jeannieblue
29-03-2008, 4:02 PM
Elemental beauty is so far not making me itch!! Even tho face is as red as a tomato! Under the make up that is! And you hardly have to use any! :D

jojo1969
29-03-2008, 4:35 PM
I Have Just Purchased Some Trial Pots From Lily Lolo,skin Did Feel A Bit Tight To Begin With But I Actually Do Like Them Feels So Smooth And Natural Looking
update well impressed with these skin looks and feels natural

jeannieblue
29-03-2008, 5:31 PM
Good - we are all so different - and I am just plain weird....:o

I'm hoping that the elemental beauty will continue to be ok for me - I've had tons of help from lots of folk re my skin problems! My bathroom is a cross between Super drug and John Lewis........ :D

Sharlee
30-03-2008, 7:14 PM
This thread helped me so I'll add my bit now. Middle-aged, fair slightly sensitive normal skin with an oily t-zone, broken veins and blotchiness. I have been on a life-long quest to find the perfect foundation as make-up usually slides off my skin within a couple of hours.

I've been using my Lily Lolo samples for two days and I am really pleased. :j I ordered two colours which I have mixed for the perfect match, also an oil absorbing finishing powder. My skin did feel a bit tight just after application but soon settled down but I'm really pleased so far with the staying power of this make-up. I don't think under the harsh light of day, it really disguises my open pores and wrinkles but hey, I wasn't expecting miracles and it certainly doesn't make them look any worse.

I also ordered an eye shadow, the colour of which I don't really like, and at £4.99 was a bit of an expensive mistake. So if anyone knows of any company that does eye shadow samples, I'd be grateful.

Still waiting for my Elemental Beauty samples so will report back when I've used them.

Regards to all

Nicifer_noonoo
30-03-2008, 8:11 PM
Sharlee, Lily Lolo do eyeshadow samples!

Sharlee
30-03-2008, 9:57 PM
I did look on their site but couldn't see any but maybe I'm being a bit thick. But I guess I could email them and see how good their customer service is!

Thanks for letting me know.

Regards

jeannieblue
30-03-2008, 10:00 PM
Blast it... - see Allantoin thread - can't type it all again! :D

Destiny33
31-03-2008, 10:19 PM
Me again, got the samples today and couldnt wait to try.

Its either me, brush or product. Went everywhere including over floor and me, didnt cover at all, what a mess :confused: lol

I had such high hopes, guess i'm an idiot lol

Any help or should i give up?

:beer:

suki1964
31-03-2008, 10:51 PM
Me again, got the samples today and couldnt wait to try.

Its either me, brush or product. Went everywhere including over floor and me, didnt cover at all, what a mess :confused: lol

I had such high hopes, guess i'm an idiot lol

Any help or should i give up?

:beer:

Its your method :)

Lily lolo samples come in wee jars that are too small to work with, you need to find a small dish - I use a round tin lid but you could use one of those indiviual pudding basins (well washed) or even a margarine tub lid or one of those dishes you rest spoons on - anything

Tip a tiny tiny amount onto your dish - no more then a pea size amount - perhaps less (less is more when it comes to minerals) Now swirl your brush into the minerals till they are all caught up in the brush and not just sat on the top, then tap off any excess.

Now the fun part. Make sure your face is clean and dry and moisturiser is well absorbed. Now starting from the outer edges of face (i usually start around my ear area) start buffing your face with the brush, circular movements all around working in towards your nose as the minerals warm up. Keep on working the minerals. I usually end up looking stupid pulling daft faces and puffing out my cheeks to get an even coverage. Now the more you buff the better the coverage - not the more minerals.

Now when you think you have covered every area of your face, finish with a few downward strokes to get any facial hair lie flat again and any loose brush hairs off the face, and go dry your hair or brush your teeth or whatever. You need to leave the minerals for a short while so as to be able to see if you need to add more. If you do need to add more - tiny amounts only. You have used too much if you are getting a caked look or your fine lines and wrinkles are more pronounced.

You do need to practice. Those jars of lily lolo will last a good few weeks if using correctly. I find I do need to put my foundation on and then go dry my hair to give time for the minerals to "cure" and show their true coverage before I go ahead and touch up with concealer and add blush, you may find the same or you may just get a natural feel for what you need

Hope that helps

Destiny33
01-04-2008, 4:09 PM
Thanks suki i really appreciate the advice, you have tempted me to try again so fingers crossed.

Thanks again for advice
:beer:

suki1964
01-04-2008, 7:31 PM
Thanks suki i really appreciate the advice, you have tempted me to try again so fingers crossed.

Thanks again for advice
:beer:


One thing I forgot to mention, you may already have an overloaded brush. Either wash and leave it to dry completely - or keep buffing it on a bit of old sheet or something until all the colour comes out. You really do need small amounts, I looked at what I used today and Id say a petite pois rather then a garden pea size :)

Destiny33
01-04-2008, 10:12 PM
One thing I forgot to mention, you may already have an overloaded brush. Either wash and leave it to dry completely - or keep buffing it on a bit of old sheet or something until all the colour comes out. You really do need small amounts, I looked at what I used today and Id say a petite pois rather then a garden pea size :)

I think i used half a pot and ended up looking like a kid playing with flour :o lol

Daft me, the stupid stuff choked me lol was an idiot but it was impossible to see what everyone was raving about.

Thanks suki for all your help and advice, i will wait till the weekend when i have a bit more time. Going out to work looking like i've stuck my head in a bag of flour is not a good look :rotfl:

:beer:

suki1964
01-04-2008, 10:28 PM
I think i used half a pot and ended up looking like a kid playing with flour :o lol

Daft me, the stupid stuff choked me lol was an idiot but it was impossible to see what everyone was raving about.

Thanks suki for all your help and advice, i will wait till the weekend when i have a bit more time. Going out to work looking like i've stuck my head in a bag of flour is not a good look :rotfl:

:beer:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl:

I shouldnt laugh really :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


Actually tbh unless you have seen minerals being applied it would be natural to do as you did - and treat it like a powder foundation

Do give it another go - and another and another. Took me a while to get "it right" for me, Having very high colouring and lumpy areas because of Seb derm I just thought I needed loads to cover it, I dont, I just need to buff longer. Now it takes me about two mins to do my face (excluding the time I leave it when while hair drying)

jeannieblue
02-04-2008, 9:02 PM
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl:

I shouldnt laugh really :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


Actually tbh unless you have seen minerals being applied it would be natural to do as you did - and treat it like a powder foundation

Do give it another go - and another and another. Took me a while to get "it right" for me, Having very high colouring and lumpy areas because of Seb derm I just thought I needed loads to cover it, I dont, I just need to buff longer. Now it takes me about two mins to do my face (excluding the time I leave it when while hair drying)
I'm so loving Destiny! :D

I was just the same - you need so little. I my face looked like the outside crust of lump of stilton when I first put it on. :eek:

I've learnt to use it sooo sparingly. Tricky tho.

Elemental beauty is working for me at the mo - am flared up today - but that is stress, cos I'm flared up on back, legs, arms etc with ezcema - its not a nice look... but hey, I can't be perfect all the time. :D

Destiny33
02-04-2008, 10:32 PM
I feel a little less daft now thank you :j lol

Still not been confident enough to face being attacked by the mineral !!!!! :rotfl:

I have printed out the instructions kindly given and promise i will use a little, very little. Erm if i have any left (thought the pot was so tiny and all these people said it lasted a week :p )

Maybe they could use me for an advertising campagne on how not to use mineral make up :eek:

Rachie B
02-04-2008, 10:41 PM
I'm so loving Destiny! :D

I was just the same - you need so little. I my face looked like the outside crust of lump of stilton when I first put it on. :eek:

I've learnt to use it sooo sparingly. Tricky tho.

Elemental beauty is working for me at the mo - am flared up today - but that is stress, cos I'm flared up on back, legs, arms etc with ezcema - its not a nice look... but hey, I can't be perfect all the time. :D

:rotfl: great mental image :)

right i've finally ordered some samples from ebay
i forgot about a brush though :o

where are you guys buying your brushes from ?

freejunkie
03-04-2008, 1:10 AM
I got a M&S brush (£7.50) great quality N not bad price http://www.marksandspencer.com/gp/product/B000NXWM1Y/sr=1-7/qid=1207175796/ref=sr_1_7/026-3895088-0922848?ie=UTF8&node=54988031&m=A2BO0OYVBKIQJM&keywords=&mnSBrand=core&size=9&rh=&page=
(someone on here mentioned it, thanks op)
I also got one from the market a Revlon brush (£1.00) great price not bad quality http://www.blushcosmetics.com/makeup-accessories/makeup-brushes-mirrors/pout-foundation-brush/prod_2307.html
Wow only just saw how much it cost cos I did a search!!! just shop around
HTH

suki1964
03-04-2008, 7:51 AM
Im loving my face brush from elemental beauty - 8.99. I find its great for minerals, I prefer it over my Bare escentuals ones. Ebay theres a huge selection of brushes, just search for kabuki or mineral brushes

Rachie B
03-04-2008, 10:16 AM
so is it a flat one im looking for ( as in freejunkies links) or a round one (as in sukis?!)

confused ? you bet lol :rotfl:

i have a round powder brush already,would it harm to use that with my trials ( that arrived this morning :D )

or would i be better off waiting til i have the real deal ? :D

freejunkie
03-04-2008, 5:55 PM
so is it a flat one im looking for ( as in freejunkies links) or a round one (as in sukis?!)

confused ? you bet lol :rotfl:

i have a round powder brush already,would it harm to use that with my trials ( that arrived this morning :D )

or would i be better off waiting til i have the real deal ? :D

Lol yeh I see your point
My info came from this thread it might help you :confused:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=709819&highlight=make+up+brushes

suki1964
03-04-2008, 6:38 PM
Lol yeh I see your point
My info came from this thread it might help you :confused:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=709819&highlight=make+up+brushes


You are buying a brush for mineral make up - not face powder or blusher, you need a brush to do that job. Mineral foundation brushes are really tightly packed brushes, dome shaped to work in the minerals. Blusher brushes and powder brushes are just too loose to use, you wont get the buffering and therefore the coverage Natural hair is the way to go as well as long as you don't have allergies

Rachie B
03-04-2008, 7:46 PM
thanks will have a looksie on ebay then :)

jeannieblue
12-04-2008, 3:24 PM
Still doing grand with the Elemental Beauty!! Not itching - not looking like crusty stilton either!

MrsE!! How did you fair with the EB?

MrsE
12-04-2008, 9:00 PM
Still doing grand with the Elemental Beauty!! Not itching - not looking like crusty stilton either!

MrsE!! How did you fair with the EB?

I got the under eye brightner & I like it.

I got the concealer & I think its pretty good, not that I have anything to conceal (at the moment:rotfl: ).

I got a highlighter, thats nice.

I got three mineral foundation testers & I like haven't tried one yet, TBH I'm not really into the whole powder only thing.

& lastly I got three mineral finishing powers, only tried matt (not dewy & whatever the other one is) & I love it, will def buy a large one.

veronarona
12-04-2008, 9:48 PM
Still doing grand with the Elemental Beauty!! Not itching - not looking like crusty stilton either!Goodie gumdrops :p

veronarona

jeannieblue
13-04-2008, 12:10 AM
I got the under eye brightner & I like it.

I got the concealer & I think its pretty good, not that I have anything to conceal (at the moment ).

I got a highlighter, thats nice.

I got three mineral foundation testers & I like haven't tried one yet, TBH I'm not really into the whole powder only thing.

& lastly I got three mineral finishing powers, only tried matt (not dewy & whatever the other one is) & I love it, will def buy a large one.

Aw, you just smug cos you got super duper unsensitive skin which will taken any old schmuck........... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

jeannieblue
13-04-2008, 12:16 AM
Goodie gumdrops :p

veronarona
Yeah but, no but, yeah but............. :D :D :D :D ;) ;)

Where've you been???? :o :o :o :o :o

I'm doing real well - but.......... its settling, if not careful, and I'm often not, in my 'tram lines'. Now I could've sworn that there was something somewhere on one of the threads about the mineral do dah stuff settling in ones 'character crevasses'. Eventually - I have trawled thru both Mineral make up thread and Sheer Cover thread to find - nothing. BUT - am wondering if I got lines and pores mixed up. If so.........

How can one avoid filling ones lines........ so that they stand out.......... or how can one camaflouge (spelling:o ) ones lines.

veronarona
13-04-2008, 1:54 PM
how can one camaflouge (spelling:o ) ones lines.One camouflages one's lines (I'm telling you cos spelin and grammer is the only things wot I'm even slightly good at. I put a chicken in the oven last night on 200C + fan and forgot all about it, and the kitchen door was closed so the smoke alarm didn't go off, and my eyes nearly burnt to a crisp cos I'd cleaned the oven just before and hadn't rinsed it well enough... and that's just the most recent debacle :rolleyes: )

Re settling in lines and pores (minerals can settle in both), that's another tiresome search for you, finding the brand that doesn't do it. That's why I think MMU is for those of us who simply cannot wear liquid/cream foundations - we're prepared to spend loads of time and some money finding exactly the right MMU brand, or to put up with the settling, grateful merely to look reasonably normal ;)

Some people advise putting a layer of Mineral Veil (or equivalent) on first, but that surely defeats the object because it contains cornstarch (US for cornflour) or other 'living' stuff, hence it can nourish bacteria. That's my theory, but don't forget I'm just a girl (well, I was once, still am inside :D ). Having said that, what about all the 'living' stuff in the moisturiser sitting directly on one's skin? Oh it's all too much :mad:

With liquidy stuff, if my face is flaring up it leaves bare patches for the red to glow thru. I loathe getting it under my finger nails, and if I use a brush (I spent a tenner on a 'good' foundation brush) it leaves bristle marks.

Don't forget that to appreciate your MMU you need to have a good look at your bare face, apply your foundation, blush etc, then wait half an hour or an hour even, and have another look at yourself and envisage the before and after. Don't look too closely, you may be being hyper-critical.

And don't forget to let your moisturiser dry before embarking on the big cover-up :)

As to 'where have you been?', my usual 'beauty' forum is Femail, I just come here in response to post alerts on a couple of threads, I'd never find them if I came in by the front door - this is a big and complex forum!

veronarona

Rachie B
13-04-2008, 5:04 PM
One camouflages one's lines (I'm telling you cos spelin and grammer is the only things wot I'm even slightly good at. I put a chicken in the oven last night on 200C + fan and forgot all about it, and the kitchen door was closed so the smoke alarm didn't go off, and my eyes nearly burnt to a crisp cos I'd cleaned the oven just before and hadn't rinsed it well enough... and that's just the most recent debacle :rolleyes: )



:rotfl: :T

jeannieblue
13-04-2008, 5:21 PM
In that case.......... I will put up with it settling in my lines, cos this EB is the best I've used, beats the liquid stuff any day. My skin has calmed alot - shame about my nerves......... :mad:

Need a holiday more than ever - the stress of trying to find anywhere that suits everyone is doing my head in - found two villas that suited us all but by the time we went to book it - yep, already booked.:o

I did salad stuff today. Not chicken tho.. :D

If we do get to go on hols (looking unlikely) - guess I would need a darker shade of foundation ...

MrsE
13-04-2008, 6:49 PM
Jeannie
Villas, have you looked at James Villas or Thomsons villas book?

jeannieblue
13-04-2008, 7:36 PM
Jeannie
Villas, have you looked at James Villas or Thomsons villas book?
You name it, we've looked.....

Every time we find something we like, its booked!

Got a couple of possibles..

MrsE
13-04-2008, 7:54 PM
You name it, we've looked.....

Every time we find something we like, its booked!

Got a couple of possibles..

Why does it have to be a villa?

Do you want your own pool to skinny dip in;) :rotfl:

jeannieblue
13-04-2008, 9:17 PM
Why does it have to be a villa?

Do you want your own pool to skinny dip in;) :rotfl:

Might do :o ;) ;)

Been on a site VIPvillas.com - really nice........ but the prices could be too much!!! My son has spotted a villa that has two jacuzzi's and a waterfall in the pool.... its GORGEOUS - but not in our price range :eek:

jeannieblue
18-04-2008, 8:33 PM
I've got to say that weeks on, am very pleased with the Elemental Beauty - my skin is alot happier - I had some stress last week and it flared up and again this week. But using the EB hasn't aggravated it, like any other foundation would do. It covers far, far better too. AND - it does NOT itch :D :D :D

Having the 'no itch' which I got with Lily Lolo and a little try with Sheer Cover, I was on such a low after the 'hype' about mineral make up!!

I'm applying it alot better too now. I get the crusty stilton look less often :o

I'm now thinking about the summer and if get a bit of a tan, to order some EB in a darker shade. Not sure how to pick the colour - struck lucky with my first order with EB and got the right shade for me!

I'm not C&P ing daily (Liz Earle) cos my skin gets sore at times, but when I do, I am loving the feel of my skin after wards and it smells and feels so nice.

So, folks, a BIG thank you to all of you that gave advice and support :beer:

veronarona
18-04-2008, 9:05 PM
Glad you're still pleased. Re the tan, if you order something by guesswork and it turns out to be a bit dark, you can just mix it with your winter colour :)

Years ago on US eBay I saw a gadget for grinding and mixing minerals, it wasn't very dear, wish I'd bought it (another case of shoulda-coulda!).

veronarona

jeannieblue
18-04-2008, 9:15 PM
Glad you're still pleased. Re the tan, if you order something by guesswork and it turns out to be a bit dark, you can just mix it with your winter colour :)

Years ago on US eBay I saw a gadget for grinding and mixing minerals, it wasn't very dear, wish I'd bought it (another case of shoulda-coulda!).

veronarona
And if you had - we would all be buying mineral make up by Veronarona! It's never too late... :D

I don't know why I didn't think of the mxing millarky myself - its been a long week and I'm tired, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :o

suki1964
18-04-2008, 10:00 PM
And if you had - we would all be buying mineral make up by Veronarona! It's never too late... :D

I don't know why I didn't think of the mxing millarky myself - its been a long week and I'm tired, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :o

Easier way is to look if theres a bronzer, Im still using the small sized one I got from BE about 5 years back - the tiniest amount goes a long long way. For that though I use a huge bronzing brush and just lightly fluff over. Does take a bit of practice as it takes a while for the colour to "develop" and you can find you have been a tad heavy handed

jeannieblue
18-04-2008, 10:04 PM
Easier way is to look if theres a bronzer, Im still using the small sized one I got from BE about 5 years back - the tiniest amount goes a long long way. For that though I use a huge bronzing brush and just lightly fluff over. Does take a bit of practice as it takes a while for the colour to "develop" and you can find you have been a tad heavy handed
Oh lord - and there is me thinking that my crusty stilton days are behind me :eek:

What item of food could I look like if I am heavy handed???? Dried out pumpkin? :o

suki1964
18-04-2008, 11:00 PM
More like you've been tango'd :)

Did you see me post about Nizarol cream? I got some of the doc this week after a mega eruption. Its cleared my face very fast - 3 days - but its soooooooooooo drying :( Im slathering on the moisturiser like its going out of fashion but my poor forehead is suffering still. What with also using the oil cleanse method, my face is resembling an oil slick :))

jeannieblue
18-04-2008, 11:12 PM
More like you've been tango'd :)

Did you see me post about Nizarol cream? I got some of the doc this week after a mega eruption. Its cleared my face very fast - 3 days - but its soooooooooooo drying :( Im slathering on the moisturiser like its going out of fashion but my poor forehead is suffering still. What with also using the oil cleanse method, my face is resembling an oil slick :))

You've made me remember that line in Pretty Woman, when she tries to eat the snails - "Slippery little sucker"...........

Sorry if that is inappropriate, but us spotty, blotchy, itchy, scratchy folk have to develop a strong sense of humour, albeit a tad warped.

(I'm scratching as I type - its my arms today - yesterday it was my shins and day before that it was my ankles. Seen my new thread? Its not doing well!! He he but then, it is a bit weird - but true.)

Destiny33
20-04-2008, 4:19 PM
:hello: Hi, back from holiday and reporting back on semi success with mineral make up :j

No more face a la bag of flour thanks to suki and the excellent advice.

I did try the lily lolo but it seemed to make my face very tight. I tried the new maybelline one and its quite nice, blusher is lovely and makes me look quite healthy. My pale skin normally looks like morticia from the adams family lol

Now if i can plsssssssss just ask a little more advice. For extra coverage is it better to add another layer, or how do i use the concealer? idiot here remember, i used a little blusher brush and i had a very odd coloured face.............:o

suki1964
20-04-2008, 10:17 PM
:hello: Hi, back from holiday and reporting back on semi success with mineral make up :j

No more face a la bag of flour thanks to suki and the excellent advice.

I did try the lily lolo but it seemed to make my face very tight. I tried the new maybelline one and its quite nice, blusher is lovely and makes me look quite healthy. My pale skin normally looks like morticia from the adams family lol

Now if i can plsssssssss just ask a little more advice. For extra coverage is it better to add another layer, or how do i use the concealer? idiot here remember, i used a little blusher brush and i had a very odd coloured face.............:o

Glad to hear you are having some success. Keep practising and it gets easier I promise.

For extra coverage - buff more. Its rare that you need to add more mineral, you just need to buff a bit longer. This is why my preference has always been to do my foundation, then dry my hair so as the minerals have time to work and I can see where I need to add more or just buff some more.

I use the lily lolo concealer brush http://www.lilylolo.co.uk/lily-product2.php?cat=7

Just dip the tip into the concealer, work into the brush, tap off excess and dab on. Quite often I dont need concealer I just use the foundation its self.

Have you had a look at the foundation colours at http://www.elementalbeauty.co.uk/
The samples there are very generous, (lasting me weeks) and people who found the lily lolo too drying are having more luck this brand

jeannieblue
20-04-2008, 10:28 PM
Second that - elemental beauty is for me! Having another flare up today - stress at trying to book a holiday!!! Nearly got there.... :o

MrsE
20-04-2008, 10:32 PM
Second that - elemental beauty is for me! Having another flare up today - stress at trying to book a holiday!!! Nearly got there.... :o

Third that. I really like the EB face powder.

I like good old fashioned foundation, but love the powder, under eye brightner & concealer.

kelk72
21-04-2008, 2:16 PM
beginning to think that MMU is not for me Im trying Elemental beauty foundation at present and i cant seem to get the coverage right -and the shade- even tho' i put on thin layers to build it up to get more coverage and then buff for ages it still doesnt look right , it looks a bit metallic on my cheeks and doesnt cover pores/ fine lines/ broken capillaries on my cheeks etc, perhaps it suits younger women better :confused: so thinking of giving up and going back to my liquid foundations at least i always get a smooth flawless finish with that and it does cover any imperfections etc shame really coz I really liked the idea of it

Destiny33
21-04-2008, 3:30 PM
I will keep practising :) So hard to buff the minerals on, the more i buff i feel i'm rubbing off :confused:

Treated myself to a kabuki brush which makes it much easier though. Maybe its me but the powder still makes me sneeze lol

jeannieblue
21-04-2008, 8:48 PM
beginning to think that MMU is not for me Im trying Elemental beauty foundation at present and i cant seem to get the coverage right -and the shade- even tho' i put on thin layers to build it up to get more coverage and then buff for ages it still doesnt look right , it looks a bit metallic on my cheeks and doesnt cover pores/ fine lines/ broken capillaries on my cheeks etc, perhaps it suits younger women better :confused: so thinking of giving up and going back to my liquid foundations at least i always get a smooth flawless finish with that and it does cover any imperfections etc shame really coz I really liked the idea of it
Oh no - I'm ancient - I think one can 'buff' too much. I've got the healing foundation. Recommend you call EB, I've heard (via the threads) that the woman there, Nicola I believe, is very helpful. Do you have a good kabuki brush? First one I had was cr*p. One I got from EB suits me.

Please read thru this thread and mineral make up thread - loads of advice. I'm loving it as it covers as well and better than 'normal' make up on my very trouble some skin. Covers my broken veins well - has more of a challenge over my ezcema and spots! :o

kelk72
21-04-2008, 9:18 PM
Hi jeannieblue tbh i didnt think you could buff MMU too much :confused: the samples i got from Elemental beauty was the soft focus foundation not the healing one as i like a dewy finish and thought the healing type might be too matte for me , yes Nicola has been very helpful shes sending me some more samples to try and get the right shade shes suggested i mix a couple together say 50/50% til' i find the exact shade but again ive never had a problem before with liquid foundation in getting my shade right I havent got bad skin i dont suffer with breakouts havent got sensitive skin etc just plain old general ageing i suppose lol so cant understand why i dont seem to get on with MMU i have sent for some samples from coloursofjoba to see if i suit that better so will have to wait and see fingers x that suits me

PS think ive read everything there is on the internet on MMU including on MSE LOL oh and ive bought a natural hair kabuki brusf off ebay so dont think its the brush

jeannieblue
21-04-2008, 10:00 PM
I don't think I can really judge that well - I've had/have such bad skin lately - but I find that the MMU is not aggravating it - you can see the awful blemishes thru it - but the difference of the before and after..........!!

I find I just swish and buff a tad and then go off for awhile, breakfast, eye make and then go back and do similar again. I'll never look perfect, but I look a million times better than I do with so called 'normal' make up. I'm sure I'm not doing it right, but what I have noticed, is that during the week when I don't have much time and gotta get to work - I do a better job of it! At weekends, when I have the time, I f*rt ar5e around and it never seems to go on right!

I've nearly/almost sort of (at long last) booked a holiday - first one in a good few years and know (its not pc) that my skin will heal and settle once it gets some sun! I then look forward to seeing how much better the MMU looks on a better skin! Guess will have to get some darker shades!

I'm not really the best one to advise - as I'm a learner too. I also wonder if I could look great, like they do in the adverts, if I had a little air brushing too :D :rotfl: :rotfl:

suki1964
22-04-2008, 8:09 AM
I think thats the knack, Do the first layer then go do something else for 5 mins and then come back and see where you need to add more, add concealer.

It only takes me 2-3 mins to do my face (foundation, blush,mascara,lippy, bronzer and concealer) but thats in bits and pieces over perhaps 15 mins while I dry and straighten my hair.

kelk72
22-04-2008, 9:49 AM
this morning i tried putting the finishing powder on 1st as i read on another thread that this helps to diminish pores and fine lines and it has helped :T then i applied 2 lots of foundation but waited in between applications like suggested and I didnt buff quite as hard - i do tend to be a bit heavy handed lol-and it does look a lot better just gotta get the shade right now still a bit pale for me Thanks for all your tips ladies :A

Mrs pbradley936
22-04-2008, 9:54 AM
Well having tried lots of brands over several months for me the best are Sheer Cover in Buff and Laura Mercier in Rich Vanilla and you must apply with a good brush. I wish a cheapie would have worked but it was not to be!

manclass
22-04-2008, 6:23 PM
ooop just posted this on the wrong thread!!:o

Just want to let you know you don't have to sign the subscription with Sheer Cover

After they give you the spiel about the 90 days thing you just say, can I say no and only order as a one off - they will say yes every time

I am still waiting for mine to arrive but they will defo do it as a one time only purchase if you insist - you can also buy the individual pots and again ask for it as a one time only purchase


Also I spent ages looking for a kabuki brush and finally found one from crown brushes - apparently (according to the american reviews i read) they are as good as MAC brushes but alot cheaper and very well known in the states

www.crownbrush.co.uk (http://www.crownbrush.co.uk/) i think? And I went for the Italian |Badger as that's the one they get most positive feedback about £8.99. The only downside is that there is a minimum spend of £15 so its better to partner up with someone if you only want the kabuki

Just cannot wait for the sheer cover to arrive to try!

Though I am defo going to look at the other recs from here

tiamai_d
16-06-2008, 3:50 PM
Just read the entire thread after watching Sheer cover ad this morning.

Not sure what one I'm going to try first, probably a trip to good old boots for a toughy feely try first.

I started to put my liquid foundation on with a big fluffy brush ages ago as I found it gave me a much nicer look, so switching to mineral powder seems quite natural to me. I get a lot of spots (white heads, blackheads red heads) so I try to only wear foundation when I need too as it just brings me out in more spots, I'm 27, thought I had been lucky in my teens by not getting spots.

Thanks everyone for your opinions and reccomendations!!!

jeannieblue
16-06-2008, 8:31 PM
Just read the entire thread after watching Sheer cover ad this morning.

Not sure what one I'm going to try first, probably a trip to good old boots for a toughy feely try first.

I started to put my liquid foundation on with a big fluffy brush ages ago as I found it gave me a much nicer look, so switching to mineral powder seems quite natural to me. I get a lot of spots (white heads, blackheads red heads) so I try to only wear foundation when I need too as it just brings me out in more spots, I'm 27, thought I had been lucky in my teens by not getting spots.

Thanks everyone for your opinions and reccomendations!!!
High street stuff is not necessarily pure mineral - they put other stuff in too, pure minerals are so light that they won't aggravate. I found that Sheer cover didn't suit me but it suits my sister...

Try Elemental Beauty - I love it, I use the healing foundation. You can email or call Nicola, she is very helpful.

There is a mineral make up thread around too somewhere..........

And get a good kabuki brush

MrsE
17-06-2008, 9:07 AM
High street stuff is not necessarily pure mineral - they put other stuff in too, pure minerals are so light that they won't aggravate. I found that Sheer cover didn't suit me but it suits my sister...

Try Elemental Beauty - I love it, I use the healing foundation. You can email or call Nicola, she is very helpful.

There is a mineral make up thread around too somewhere..........

And get a good kabuki brush

I bought the EB radiance mineral finishing powder for my hols on Sunday:D

Can't get with the whole powder only thing, but love EB's mineral finishing powder.

If anyone is looking for a great loose powder to go over foundation for the summer, THIS IS IT.

tiamai_d
17-06-2008, 10:29 AM
High street stuff is not necessarily pure mineral - they put other stuff in too, pure minerals are so light that they won't aggravate. I found that Sheer cover didn't suit me but it suits my sister...

Try Elemental Beauty - I love it, I use the healing foundation. You can email or call Nicola, she is very helpful.

There is a mineral make up thread around too somewhere..........

And get a good kabuki brush

I was going to have a tochy-feely, not nesseseraly going to buy it.

I had been looking at lolo lily or lily lolo... and magnolia minerals from ebay. Will look for elemental beauty, thanks.

Plus, it's a good excuse to go into town :rotfl:

EDIT

I need a new excuse to go into town, just ordered 3 samples from EB (they have lovely jars and my girly gene assered itself!)

jeannieblue
17-06-2008, 7:36 PM
I was going to have a tochy-feely, not nesseseraly going to buy it.

I had been looking at lolo lily or lily lolo... and magnolia minerals from ebay. Will look for elemental beauty, thanks.

Plus, it's a good excuse to go into town :rotfl:

EDIT

I need a new excuse to go into town, just ordered 3 samples from EB (they have lovely jars and my girly gene assered itself!)
Everything comes beautifully wrapped....... satisfy all your girly genes!

Any doubts email or call Nicola - she is very helpful.

Go into town for some shoes :D

tiamai_d
20-06-2008, 3:58 PM
I went into town and spent £200 with DH on clothes for us :rotfl:

My EB packet arrived yesterday and oh boy, girly gene was jumping with joy! 3 tiny vials of powder in a pretty pink organza baggy with a dried mini rose bud. I felt like an A-lister getting her 'weight loss aid', only it was make up instead.

Knew straight away what one is the perfect match, the darker one I picked. The other two will be passed to my friend who is a shade lighter than me, for her to try.

Feels and looks great, and really suprised as I had a few spots yesterday when I tried it out. Today they have almost vanished! One was a white head that had bled, the other were just little red bumps. Usually I have to leave them 3-4 days 'naked' for them to go. Very Impressed.

I will be needing a concealer for under my eyes though, so going to have a try at what EB have. May call them for some advice first.

jeannieblue
20-06-2008, 9:45 PM
You will find Nicola very helpful. I'm so grateful to this thread and others for guiding me to EB.

We are all different, I thought for a while that mineral make up wasn't going to suit my temperamental skin and I was gutted. Glad to say, that EB has been brill for me. My previous 'mistakes' (for me personally), of Lily lilo and sheer cover, were passed to my sister, she really likes the sheer cover and it suits her.

I still am happy with the Liz Earle moisturiser, and especially to the comfrey I found, must order some more.

Itsjustme
24-06-2008, 2:44 PM
I'm not sure about Sheer Cover, but there are lots of mineral make ups available. We use them in the salon, and they do take quite a bit of getting used to, but the results are great. A company called Lily Lolo make excellent quality mineral make up, from foundation to eyeshadows, and they do samples of foundation for only 99p, which last about a week. Bargain :)

Thank you for this! I was being very torn between which ones to go for and have to say that Lily Lolo were the quickest to respond and keep me up to speed with order etc!

Only the 'eyes' have it thus far but I think I will go Lily Lolo rather then the Bare Minerals when I need replacements! Still waiting for the Sheer Cover item! Got spoilt by Lily Lolo's quick response etc! Think there are humans at the other end!!

jeannieblue
24-06-2008, 9:40 PM
Thank you for this! I was being very torn between which ones to go for and have to say that Lily Lolo were the quickest to respond and keep me up to speed with order etc!

Only the 'eyes' have it thus far but I think I will go Lily Lolo rather then the Bare Minerals when I need replacements! Still waiting for the Sheer Cover item! Got spoilt by Lily Lolo's quick response etc! Think there are humans at the other end!!
What? You never tried Elemental Beauty??? Must try them. AND definitely humans at other end of phone or email - and will assist you with shades etc!!

They do a great healing foundation which is lovely and can recommend their brushes too.

All of their products come beautifully wrapped and makes you feel like a princess - which is not easy at my age :o

Itsjustme
24-06-2008, 11:46 PM
What? You never tried Elemental Beauty???

which is not easy at my age :o

Have noted and will def try them - will their site come up on google search? is it dot com or co uk? Not sure if ok to give url's here?

I also started new thread to ask about The Lift - no replies yet and I am humming and hah - ing...don't know how to spell that one!!

I need to pratice with the minerals as I tend to be too heavy handed - so far is good.

How old are you - roughly? I am 62 so everything seem to be going south

Now desperately need to find a way to stop lipstick bleeding - giving up smoking is not an option....

Thanks for the help. Wish I had found this site ages go!

tiamai_d
25-06-2008, 3:42 PM
Have noted and will def try them - will their site come up on google search? is it dot com or co uk? Not sure if ok to give url's here?

I also started new thread to ask about The Lift - no replies yet and I am humming and hah - ing...don't know how to spell that one!!

I need to pratice with the minerals as I tend to be too heavy handed - so far is good.

How old are you - roughly? I am 62 so everything seem to be going south

Now desperately need to find a way to stop lipstick bleeding - giving up smoking is not an option....

Thanks for the help. Wish I had found this site ages go!

I'm sure I read somewhere that you should try a lip stain when your lips are 'mature'. It stops the bleeding and gives a matter colour that makes them look a bit fuller. Anything shiny will just make them look thinner. Stains also last longer and are easy to apply once you get the knack.

You get them in little pots that look like lip balm and can just use a cland finger.

www.elementalbeauty.co.uk/ is the link for the foundation.

Itsjustme
25-06-2008, 5:53 PM
I'm sure I read somewhere that you should try a lip stain when your lips are 'mature'. . Stains also last longer and are easy to apply once you get the knack.

www.elementalbeauty.co.uk/ (http://www.elementalbeauty.co.uk/) is the link for the foundation.

My thanks indeed! Love the 'mature' bit!!

What are these lip things called and any ideas of how I can get on line? That is the only option for me at the moment.

Two eye shadows came from Bare Faced Beauty - they are Pure Minerals ones.

I so wish I had found this site earlier - it would have saved me a lot of money!

I posted a question about The Lift but have not had any responses yet! I guess most here are younger - LoL

lessonlearned
25-06-2008, 11:01 PM
Hi Itsjustme

I tried the "lift". I was very disappointed, no noticeable difference tbh. Very expensive mistake.

I make a lot of my own cosmetics (I trained as a beauty therapist). I am 57 and have sensitive skin, so I do have to take care with what I use.

Try this natural face lift.

2 teaspoons of gram (also known as chickpea flour). (Sainsbury's).
2 teaspoons of water
1/2 teraspoon runny honey.

Mix to paste, apply to face avoiding eye area and lips. Leave for 15 minutes. Rinse off.

This is also good

Mix 6 few drops of frankinsence (natural oil - try Boots) with about 10ml of grapeseed oil (any supermarket). Use at night. WARNING DO NOT USE NEAT ESSENTIAL OIL - IT ABSOLUTELY MUST BE DILUTED. You could also add neroli oil - again 6 drops to the mix - smells lovely and is great for mature skin.

I also use Bio Oil - about a tenner but lasts ages. Again best used at night.

If you can afford it - Imedeen tablets are good but you do need to take them for several months before you see any effect. Regretably I can't afford them.

I have been using "Siana" creams from ALDI (£1-99) The night cream contains retinol and Q10 and the day cream contains Q10. These are exactly the same ingredients found in some very expensive creams. Do not be tempted to use the night cream during the day because retinol can react with sunlight.

Drink plenty of water to plump up the skin. Eat salmon regularly and if you like them avocados. Taking Evening Primrose Oil capsules also helps dry mature skin - again you'll need to allow about 3 months to notice any difference.

Good luck.

tiamai_d
25-06-2008, 11:20 PM
A lip stain??? You can get them from almost anywhere, boots for one. Google brings up loads. Or try a sheer lipstick. Just so long as it's not too dark, wet or shiny. And remember to moisturise them lots!

I'm only 27 so can't really advise!

But I do actually have bio-oil on my face right now! :T Works great. Apply right after a bath or shower at night time (only a few drops or your face is still greasy the next day) It's easier if you face is still slightly wet.

Honey, I LOVE honey!! For a really deep treat in the bath I use a gentle face wash, then mix some caster sugar in clear honey and use as a scub then leave it on for as long as I feel like like a face mask. Then I use some bio-oil. It makes a huge difference, but as I have oily skin I only use bio-oil every now and again.

westiegirl
28-06-2008, 5:36 PM
Hi
Lily Lolo have stopped doing eyeshadow samples they said it is to expensive now .I suppose it is very fiddly and time consuming. It is a great pity.
Have just started using there make up and find it is great for my skin
Iam nearing my 60 and skin is looking good with this.

sylwiaclarke
23-07-2008, 12:30 PM
Hello,

I've been using Sheer Cover for about 2 or 3 years NOW and I'm NEVER going back to anything else! It's money well spent. I called the TV shop to order my first lot and this one was the mini products of 1.5 g, plus brushes, highlighter etc, then the next ones were large ones of 4g each+ cleanser and moisturiser. When I thought it was getting too expensive, it took one call to cancel next orders, but I definitely have to purchase more! I have terrible pigmentation marks on my cheeks and when I use an ordinary foundation (Clinique, Loreal), people ask me "what's happended to your face? has someone punched you?", whereas when I have sheer cover on, my face looks luminous and even! And you can't see the dreaded face/ neck line, as when using foundation.I swear by that product. I once purchased Loreal mineral one and chucked it out. I know it seems like a lot of money, but it lasts MONTHS before you have to purchase your next lot. I do also believe that this one is a 100% natural product, the brushes are definitely from natural bristles. You will not regret.
Ps: I am using the medium shade, my skin has a reddish tone, but used to tan easily (that's before I got the pigmentation marks and avoid the sun now). I hope that helps.

veronarona
23-07-2008, 3:03 PM
Well done, Sylwia :) Paula Begoun (the so-called Cosmetics Cop) is scathing about mineral makeup, but we know, don't we?

veronarona :wink:

jeannieblue
23-07-2008, 8:17 PM
Well done, Sylwia :) Paula Begoun (the so-called Cosmetics Cop) is scathing about mineral makeup, but we know, don't we?

veronarona :wink:
Hi Veronarona!

I will NEVER go back to 'ordinary' make up. It took me awhile and everyone's patience, to get it right! But my skin has never been so settled and look so good and I am in fifties - in case anyone wonders!

It riles me that make up for older ladies is always shown in the adverts by some female that is obviously a good few years younger!

kitschvalue
06-08-2008, 9:53 AM
Hello, I am new :eek:

Just wanted to thank you ladies for the Elemental Beauty mineral foundation recommendation. I was googling for Sheer Cover after watching the infomercial, and found this thread and am so pleased I didn't shell out for the Sheer Cover as the EB works really well for me (the green corrector powder in particular is fantastic as I have thread veins *woe*) and the samples I got look like they will last for ages too.

So, a big yay for you :T

jeannieblue
06-08-2008, 9:29 PM
Hello, I am new :eek:

Just wanted to thank you ladies for the Elemental Beauty mineral foundation recommendation. I was googling for Sheer Cover after watching the infomercial, and found this thread and am so pleased I didn't shell out for the Sheer Cover as the EB works really well for me (the green corrector powder in particular is fantastic as I have thread veins *woe*) and the samples I got look like they will last for ages too.

So, a big yay for you :T

I'm so glad. I fa5t ar5ed around for ages and bought all sorts - which I gave to my sister, including sheer cover (nothing wrong with it, but it didn't agree with me), but it suits her really well.

I eventually found that Elemental Beauty suited me, my skin has been great since - well, nearly since, I started using it. It took awhile as my skin was in flare up mode, it then settled, I think, thanks to the healing foundation from EB.

I've had great hols and been lightly dusting myself (prob how i should've been applying since word go..) with a darker shade that Nicola recommended. So, 3 or is it 4?, weeks after my hols, when the face tan fades rapidly, I am still glowing a lovely colour!

Brill ... :D

tiamai_d
06-08-2008, 11:43 PM
Hello, I am new :eek:

Just wanted to thank you ladies for the Elemental Beauty mineral foundation recommendation. I was googling for Sheer Cover after watching the infomercial, and found this thread and am so pleased I didn't shell out for the Sheer Cover as the EB works really well for me (the green corrector powder in particular is fantastic as I have thread veins *woe*) and the samples I got look like they will last for ages too.

So, a big yay for you :T


Amen sista!

I love that green stuff! Chin, nose, and spooty bits.

Oh and the spots clear up in 24 hoursusing EB foundation! :T I'm a barely when tanned or not. Even when using my self tan moisturiser.

I even have the application down to a fine art.

Oh and boots magic protect and perfect serum works with it and only needs a few mins to sink in rather than about 15 mins for normal moistursier. Got into a good routine of moisturiser at night, serum in the morning.

Itsjustme
08-09-2008, 4:47 PM
I somehow did not book mark this site and could not find it again for an age!

I ended up shelling out for both the sheer cover and the Bare Minerals in a frantic panic before a day's filming as I was doing my make up myself. They were good but I did not have much 'practice' time. Since then I have got a bit better at it.

I also did a session with The Lift and have to say I do like it! Even if it is only a placebo effect - it works for me!

Anyway, just over week ago, I had a crack of dawn call for a morning TV show. It was arranged that I would be in make up and so went only with procollagen serum and moisturizer on face - and left rest to make-up people. Due to a mix up of no car booked rather than a double car we were running late. What saved the day was they used the BareMinerals stuff and were really quick - needless to say I looked good all day - and it was a long one! I also did not look all covered with gunk a la panstick of days gone by!

The make up artist also gave me the name of a tube of stuff which she had used on my lips after the lippie to stop any 'bleeding'. By the end of my spot I had forgotten the name and went back to retrieve coffee and ask her to write it down for me. I then managed to loose that. Does anyone here have any idea of what that might have been? It was a very small little tube - about 3 to 4 inches long.

I also followed advice here and got some of the Lily Lolo eye shadows (very fast delivery).

So a big 'thank you' to all here who were such a great help!

Now off to find a hand held rectangular mirror like they have in hairdressers for seeing the back - I had one, but it got broken in the panic to get packed for London trip! If anyone knows where on line??

And where can I buy Bio Oil on line??

red
08-09-2008, 5:23 PM
Mineral make-up is brilliant...love it love it love it!!!

It is very simple to apply and to gain the level of coverage you need. The hardest part is finding your shade. This is often complicated by whether you are yellow, pink or neutral based. Taken from the Lily Lilo website:

If you are struggling to decide if you have pink (cool) or yellow (warm) tones to your skin remember make-up artists and beauty experts are trained to do this and some have been advising clients for years. A great tip that really helped me get myself into the right category is to look at the inside of your wrists, take a close look at the veins you can see - if they show mainly blue you’re likely to have pink undertones and if they show mainly green you’re likely have yellow undertones.

I love Lily Lilo - find their products are great and they are reliable.

Once you have found your shade learning how to apply is easy - just do 2 things:

Firstly apply a skin primer. It helps the minerals stay on all day and preps the skin. It is not essential but I like to use one.

Secondly and most important buff for as long as possible. Get a soft brush and buff as much as possible!!!

jeannieblue
08-09-2008, 8:35 PM
Itsjustme...

I am not sure, but I think you like the mineral make up. Gosh - you have such a busy life! Bio oil suppliers? Don't know any but am sure someone will have some ideas.

Red....

If I over buff, my skin gets sore! Its practise - and I probably under buff due to lack of time in the mornings.. :o

red
09-09-2008, 12:06 PM
Itsjustme...

I am not sure, but I think you like the mineral make up. Gosh - you have such a busy life! Bio oil suppliers? Don't know any but am sure someone will have some ideas.

Red....

If I over buff, my skin gets sore! Its practise - and I probably under buff due to lack of time in the mornings.. :o

Hi Jeannieblue - there are probably two reasons why your skin gets sore -

Either the minerals you are using has something in it that may be causing an irritation? and/or the brushes you are using may be a little scratchy. not sure which brand you use, but Lily Lilo and Funky Fresh are two brands that i have used and I know they are pure 100% minerals if you need to try a new range.

suki1964
09-09-2008, 5:16 PM
One thing I learned in the application of minerals is that if you want more of a cover - you might not really need more mineral - just need to buff over that area again (and again)

This is why you always start from the outside of your face and work in. Time you git the T zone you wont have any excess mineral on your brush and it will have warmed making buffing a lot easier and smoother. And for most of us its the t zone that needs the added buff

jeannieblue
09-09-2008, 8:22 PM
One thing I learned in the application of minerals is that if you want more of a cover - you might not really need more mineral - just need to buff over that area again (and again)

This is why you always start from the outside of your face and work in. Time you git the T zone you wont have any excess mineral on your brush and it will have warmed making buffing a lot easier and smoother. And for most of us its the t zone that needs the added buff
And it is that advice that you gave me long ago that I have been using - but, I think some may be 'over buffing'! I certainly over buffed to start off with - which I mentioned before and that is why my skin felt sore.

I'm a bit slap dash now - and I get a better effect! I don't have the time to fa5t a5se around in the mornings - and when I do get time to 'faff' around, I seemed to apply far too much. So I apply the 'slap dash' approach at the weekends too!

You've always given good advice Suki! Thank you.

XClaireBearX
20-11-2008, 12:53 AM
I have very senitive skin that burns easily, and is very fair and has acne!, so it very hard to find something that doesnt look orange and wont make my skin even worse!! but i found sheer cover really worked! i havnt tried their new formula yet, but ordering it tomorow so hopefully will have the same effects as their last one! but the old one i tried really helped my skin, it doesnt feel caked on and doesnt feel itchy, it really covered all my spots and redness without feeling caked on!... The only thing is, from out of the 2 shades u get, one was just about light enough for me! the other made me go very orange! not a good look lol, another thing is when u first apply it, only use the littlest amount, n then add to it, its very easy to put loads on, and then makes your skin look dry! Liquid foundations only make my skin look orange and or pastey and doesnt cover up well!

Hopefully their changed formula wont make my skin go bad!!

Anyone else tried it????????

Claire
xxxxx

tiamai_d
20-11-2008, 5:47 PM
Clairebear, I'm an elemntal beauty person myself. Not tried sheer cover.

I have found that I need 2 kabuki brushes as they MUST be washed out every few days as I get spots, and if I use the brush when it's dirty I get more. So one to use and one drying (they take over a day to dry). Just been using some very mild anti bacterial handwash, seems to work ok so far.


I agree about over buffing, it takes a while to get it perfected but I can now really build up the layers to get the 'movie look' without the 'powdery look':rotfl:

Rachie B
20-11-2008, 9:52 PM
I have very senitive skin that burns easily, and is very fair and has acne!, so it very hard to find something that doesnt look orange and wont make my skin even worse!! but i found sheer cover really worked! i havnt tried their new formula yet, but ordering it tomorow so hopefully will have the same effects as their last one! but the old one i tried really helped my skin, it doesnt feel caked on and doesnt feel itchy, it really covered all my spots and redness without feeling caked on!... The only thing is, from out of the 2 shades u get, one was just about light enough for me! the other made me go very orange! not a good look lol, another thing is when u first apply it, only use the littlest amount, n then add to it, its very easy to put loads on, and then makes your skin look dry! Liquid foundations only make my skin look orange and or pastey and doesnt cover up well!

Hopefully their changed formula wont make my skin go bad!!

Anyone else tried it????????

Claire
xxxxx
i have very fair skin ( with rosacea red cheeks :( ) and is pretty sensitive

and have just this week started using elemental beauty mineral make up

tis fab !! not tried any others but this stuff is great!

i had never found a foundation that looked good before :( it was either non existant / too orange / too drying etc

xx

jeannieblue
21-11-2008, 8:26 PM
Clairebear, I'm an elemntal beauty person myself. Not tried sheer cover.

I have found that I need 2 kabuki brushes as they MUST be washed out every few days as I get spots, and if I use the brush when it's dirty I get more. So one to use and one drying (they take over a day to dry). Just been using some very mild anti bacterial handwash, seems to work ok so far.


I agree about over buffing, it takes a while to get it perfected but I can now really build up the layers to get the 'movie look' without the 'powdery look':rotfl:

Oh lordy.......... I've not washed my brushes yet. Please don't read back and work out how awful I've been... :o

I've not really learnt to build up yet :o I'm still just faffing it on and still don't look that bad at the end of a days work! The movie look I could achieve would probably be Bette Davis, when playing her meanest part!!

Meanwhile......... I love Elemental Beauty - it suits my sensitive stupid skin! I found Sheer Cover itchy so too Lily Lolo.

samthompson3117
03-03-2009, 11:23 AM
I have been using sheer cover for over a year. It is expensive but totally worth it, you dont need alot, a couple of daps on the powder and you are set to go, it has become really famous, The jar is meant to last you 3 month it lasted me 6, so yes you do get more than your moneys worth beleive me. Best thing to do is order it, once you get it cancel the club membership and when you run out order again, that way you wont be sent one out every 3 months. You can use it as you please plus you get the free gifts each time as well. If you need more info let me know x:beer: :beer:

sen
29-04-2009, 11:14 AM
Hi
I ordered my sheer cover introductory kit last Friday and still haven’t received so much as a email confirmation, just wanted to ask how long it takes for the products to actually arrive?

thanksx

pointsgirl
06-05-2009, 10:36 PM
Hi
Check your spam mail
I have just ordered some today & found the confirmation email in with my spam mail
It says that i should receive my parcel in 14 days:T
xx

jeannieblue
08-05-2009, 10:16 PM
And read through the thread - if you have time :rolleyes: - for advice for applying it.

Sheer Cover didn't suit me and I gave it to my sister, whom it suits. I have very sensitive skin and found EB was better for me as they do a healing foundation.

Don't 'faff' about with it too much, make sure you leave as long as poss for your moisturiser to 'soak' in before applying.

Give yourself time - a good few weeks, to get the knack and a way of applying that suits you - if you do that, you will never go back to the horrid liquid stuff!!

Keep us informed of how you get on. We are all still learning after all!

ckeogh
06-07-2009, 1:28 PM
My mineral make up from Southern Magnolia Minerals arrived the other day...and I have come here to say that I love it!

I have been reading this thread for weeks, researching every company and the best deals. Coming to the conclusion SMM is overall the best value for money, and turns out the quality is lovely too! I'm a 'mineral make-up newbie' and my skin looks and feels great!

I purchased their 'Basically Me' kit which is $20, but with 10% discount using the code: RealBeauty10. (and $16 P&P to UK). The kit includes a 12g foundation, 5g foundation, concealer, eyeshadow, blusher, bronzer, finishing veil and a baby kabuki brush (and 2 free blush & eyeshadow samples).

I chose light and medium foundations giving great even coverage, the blusher is rosy, the bronzer adds a nice shimmer, the concealer & eyeshadow are natural shades which are great for multi-tasking dark circles and blemishes, and the finishing veil gives a flawless airbrushed effect after. The colours are perfect for my skin complexion.

I suffer from acne and very oily skin, when I get big horrible spots I'm left with a red blemish for years and nothing heals the redness. I saw the Sheer Cover advert and decided to look into minerals. I'm very pleased with my choice of SMM, as my skin feels healthy and even seems to be producing less oil...which is a miracle! I believe talc and rice based powders are part to blame for my bad skin, so I'm thrilled there's an alternative.

I also ordered the free samples from Everyday Minerals; 3 foundations, concealer and blusher (1g each) only paying $5 P&P to UK. They are lovely too, but now I have my great kit from SMM I wouldn't buy from anywhere else.

I'm enjoying perfecting the art of swirl, tap and buff!
Thanks for all the tips!

veronarona
06-07-2009, 5:46 PM
Glad you like your SMM, CK (Ooh, lucky you having classy initials ;) ), I've recommended them in the past. I've got so many brands, all mixed up and I can't read labels any more so I'll never know which brand suits me best apart from one that's discontinued because the mfr went bust.

Well done to have hit first time on a brand you love :D

veronarona

Nordictat2
07-07-2009, 10:13 AM
Hmmm I am curious about this Elemental Beauty make-up. Can someone recommend things to buy for fair-light skin tone? This green cover up stuff sounds interesting too hehe.

MrsE
07-07-2009, 10:23 AM
Hmmm I am curious about this Elemental Beauty make-up. Can someone recommend things to buy for fair-light skin tone? This green cover up stuff sounds interesting too hehe.

Google them & look at the stuff.

They sell cheap trial sizes;)

I use the undereye brightner- better than touche eclaite;)

& the healing concealer - the dogs wotsits of conceralers

Jeannie uses their mineral foundation.

The helpline is manned by a really helpful lady who will advise & help you in deciding what suits you, without the hard sell.

ckeogh
07-07-2009, 1:24 PM
Yes, thanks Veronarona, your advise really helped. I started with the 2007 threads where you bigged-up SMM....great advice!

You seem to be a mineral make-up fanatic! You definitely sold it to me!


And, yes, MrsE....I once bought the Dior equivalent concealer called Skinflash for £22...and it was awful!!! I can't believe I spent that much when I could have had all this mineral make-up for the same price! It does such a better job. Live and learn!

jeannieblue
07-07-2009, 2:39 PM
Glad you are getting on with it ok!

Took me a bit of time to find one that didn't aggravate and I found EB to really suit me. Then a little time to learn to apply it - tho Veronarona's advice of shutting your eyes whilst applying it really helped!! More I 'faffed' about, worse it went on.

Less is more I found and I sort of brush it vaguely aimlessly around!! We all develop our own technique I guess. Mines called 'Haphazard' :D:D:D

I will never ever put 'wet' make up on my skin again. It all seems so 'gunky' now!! Yuk!

I don't use concealer or anything else.. I have three colours that I love and depending on what time of year it is - I may use the darker (summer) one in the winter to give some colour on my cheeks. I mix all together sometimes.... the lighter one I may dab a bit of that on first if I am a bit red. Works for me.

And I look twenty years younger since using EB! ;)

suki1964
08-07-2009, 12:48 AM
And I look twenty years younger since using EB! ;)

Yes, I have to second that - jeanie now looking like a young woman of 65 :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

jeannieblue
08-07-2009, 2:44 PM
Yes, I have to second that - jeanie now looking like a young woman of 65 :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Oh you are so kind to me................ :D

How are you??

The weather has turned awful! The reason for this is simple - I've taken a fortnights holiday and having a 'stacation' as the Americans call it!

At least I am getting some chores done... :o

I'm on the net trying to find a nice site to buy some gift vouchers - not doing well, so have started a thread!

Re MMU - someone asked me the other day if I had been away - thanks to my EB darker shade that I got last year - I'm looking a bit tanned and healthy! More red, white & blotchy without it... :eek:

suki1964
09-07-2009, 1:25 AM
Im having a blotchy itchy week this week, thankfully the Eb covers it so well and soothes. Im now looking at trying the coconut oil as in a thread here.

Im also sticking to the one foundation colour and have got a pot of BE Tan. Its bloody brill. I try to keep it down to a sunkissed look but sometimes Im asked if Ive been sunbathing. It actually looks pretty real and I take it down my neck and arms if wearing something that bares them. !7 quid for a wee pot thats not going to get used up anytime soon, think it will easily last a year - perhaps two if only using it during the summer

veronarona
09-07-2009, 2:28 AM
Im having a blotchy itchy week this week, thankfully the Eb covers it so well and soothes...

Me too :( I wonder if it's a reaction to the hot weather we've had.

Im also sticking to the one foundation colour and have got a pot of BE Tan. You've just reminded me that I've got BE Tan too! Never used it :rolleyes: I'm wondering now if I could get away with it, but BE used to make my skin prickle when I was using it a few years ago. Still, nothing ventured...

(Hi Jeannie :D )

veronarona

jeannieblue
09-07-2009, 2:29 PM
So, we're all itchy!

Even the palms of my hands are itchy and dry... :o My right foot has flared up with ecsema -no thats not spelt right - its always my right foot, never the left!

This time last year I was really chilling out in Cyprus.... and my skin was perfection (well, as good as it can be at my age!) Wish I could get the lottery up.

suki1964
09-07-2009, 9:04 PM
So, we're all itchy!

Even the palms of my hands are itchy and dry... :o My right foot has flared up with ecsema -no thats not spelt right - its always my right foot, never the left!

This time last year I was really chilling out in Cyprus.... and my skin was perfection (well, as good as it can be at my age!) Wish I could get the lottery up.

Whispers in Genies ear .....


COCONUT OIL


lolololol

suki1964
09-07-2009, 9:10 PM
Me too :( I wonder if it's a reaction to the hot weather we've had.

You've just reminded me that I've got BE Tan too! Never used it :rolleyes: I'm wondering now if I could get away with it, but BE used to make my skin prickle when I was using it a few years ago. Still, nothing ventured...

(Hi Jeannie :D )

veronarona

Give it a try, Im not having any trouble with it, its the foundations that itch me - but tbh since my face has calmed down so much this last year I can even wear that without trouble. My skin really is a lot less reactive to cosmetics since I went so " natural"

jeannieblue
09-07-2009, 9:14 PM
Whispers in Genies ear .....


COCONUT OIL


lolololol

Good for itchy bits?? :D Got a linky thingy??

What about make up vouchers? Am exhausted trying to find vouchers for niece -see other thread... :o

suki1964
09-07-2009, 10:15 PM
Good for itchy bits?? :D Got a linky thingy??

What about make up vouchers? Am exhausted trying to find vouchers for niece -see other thread... :o

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1297569

Craftyscholar
10-07-2009, 12:33 PM
Having read through the thread and looked at some of the on-line sites I discovered today that a company called bareMinerals ? has a stand in my local JL.

Has anyone used this company?

It would be easier to get advice face-to-face rather than trying to guess what shade to order from a computer screen.

jeannieblue
10-07-2009, 7:53 PM
Having read through the thread and looked at some of the on-line sites I discovered today that a company called bareMinerals ? has a stand in my local JL.

Has anyone used this company?

It would be easier to get advice face-to-face rather than trying to guess what shade to order from a computer screen.
There are alot of people on here that have got on with BareMinerals. If I were you, I would get some sample pots from lots of different ones to see if they suit you.

Some of us have very sensitive skin - mine in verging on neurotic! I can only get on with Elemental Beauty. It's all trial and practice.

suki1964
13-07-2009, 2:56 AM
Having read through the thread and looked at some of the on-line sites I discovered today that a company called bareMinerals ? has a stand in my local JL.

Has anyone used this company?

It would be easier to get advice face-to-face rather than trying to guess what shade to order from a computer screen.

Bare Minerals is Bare Escentuals who market themselves as being the original mineral make up.

It was the first i tried

Go get a make over at JL or debenhams see if you like it. Some of us find it makes our skin itchy and some find it too shiny but lots get on just fine with it

ALR
14-07-2009, 10:47 AM
Hi everyone,
A friend recommended that I try Sheercover mineral Make-up. I googled it to have a look and this thread came up right underneath Sheercover's official website. I've been reading it over the last 2 days (I'm a slow reader) and have found it very very interesting and highly useful.

I am 24 and have very tempremental skin... very oily, spot prone, sensitive and burns very easily. I currently use Maybelline's 'Pure.Mineral liquid foundation', but after reading what has been said on here about how high streets aren't the 'pure mineral' that they make out to be, I definately think I am going to change.

I don't tend to have many problems with allergies but was put off Sheercover initially by the feedback about how Bismuth can irritate sensitive skin.

However, I am going to take some very informative advice from this thread and order some Elemental Beauty samples and brushes as they seem to be the most raved about and tend to suit every skin so it sounds like a good place to start.

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for some excellent advice and hope even after all the experimentations and mishaps etc that your skin is looking and feeling better.
I hope mine will settle down using Mineral Makeup too.

Amy :D

veronarona
14-07-2009, 11:20 AM
You're a star, Amy, for taking the time and trouble to read this l-o-n-g thread and glean the info from it that you need and I look forward to your feedback. I hope you're pleased with EB, I'd love to order it myself but I mustn't, I mustn't, I mustn't!!! (Lots of MMU in the makeup box and no money in the kitty :()

veronarona

ALR
14-07-2009, 1:03 PM
Actually, I have one quick question which I don't think the thread answered (From what I read, but I am sorry if someone did comment on it and I've missed it)
Whats the best way to apply the concealer? I am looking at getting the Colour Corrector Healing Minerals concealer from EB, but am unsure of how best to apply it, e.g. what sort of brush is best or is it easier to just use a finger (one with a short nail, lol)
I am getting the Kabuki brush from EB to try with the foundtation samples. At £10.79 and along with everyones recommendations it looks pretty good value. And had also thought about getting the Eyeshadow brush perhaps to apply the concealer with but I dont know if it would do the job?

Do you have any thoughts veronarona, you seem to be the font of all knowledge on MMU. (I write MMU and immediately just think of Manchester Met Uni... oops!)

Oh and just as a heads up, EB has 10% off all products at the moment because they've just launched their new website by the looks of things.
Not that I want to encourage you to spend more money increasing your collection. Lol. :silenced: Just really so everyone knows.

Amy :cool:

veronarona
14-07-2009, 2:25 PM
Lots of companies do specialist concealer brushes (though an eye shadow brush might well "do"), but how about a really cheap one to experiment with - cos Google found me this Elf one:

http://www.eyeslipsface.co.uk/product~prodID~38.htm (http://www.eyeslipsface.co.uk/product%7EprodID%7E38.htm)

Mine is a Bare Escentuals bought from eBay:

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/__Bare-Escentuals-concealer-brush_W0QQLHQ5fPrefLocZ1QQ_flnZ1QQ_trksidZp3286Q2e c0Q2em283

You need dense, shortish hair.

BE say to apply concealer after foundation, which surprised me. Many people don't bother to buy concealer, they just use the foundation - I'm hoping you will be pleasantly surprised by the coverage - besides my blotches I've got the red-nose variety of rosacea and I don't find it necessary to use concealer. But I'm not too fussy, I just like to look "unremarkable" rather than gorgeous ;)

Girls who have recently bought their brushes may have good advice for you :) And of course Jeannie is the best source for EB-specific info. Where are ya, Jeannie? (She goes to work :eek: )

veronarona

suki1964
15-07-2009, 11:04 PM
Actually, I have one quick question which I don't think the thread answered (From what I read, but I am sorry if someone did comment on it and I've missed it)
Whats the best way to apply the concealer? I am looking at getting the Colour Corrector Healing Minerals concealer from EB, but am unsure of how best to apply it, e.g. what sort of brush is best or is it easier to just use a finger (one with a short nail, lol)
I am getting the Kabuki brush from EB to try with the foundtation samples. At £10.79 and along with everyones recommendations it looks pretty good value. And had also thought about getting the Eyeshadow brush perhaps to apply the concealer with but I dont know if it would do the job?


Amy :cool:

Is that the green mineral you are asking about? Take care with that, it will make you look very ill if you use too much

I use it when my rosacea is at its worse. I use it to tone down large areas of redness. I use the BE flawless face brush which is the same as the lily lolo small powder brush. and just buff on the tiniest amount BEFORE foundation then if I need more I put another fine dusting over. I do mean tiny amount, trying to use enough to block the redness straight away will only make you look like a ghost.Its as it warms with your face that you can see that its working and killing the red.

For small areas to cover I just use a dab more foundation but I use the lily lolo concealer brush. Its great for blending and dabbing. I do have concealers but rarely need to use them as a bit more foundation usually does the trick :)

I see EB have cut their range of brushes back and the ones they are selling now look to be a lot different. kabukis are sold everywhere now, my everyday one I got from ELF for a couple of pound and its just as good as my BE one that cost 10 times that. I use a big old cheapo blusher brush from the savers range from superdrug to apply my bronzer and amy brush I lay my hands on for the blush

ALR
17-07-2009, 1:10 PM
Is that the green mineral you are asking about? Take care with that, it will make you look very ill if you use too much



I think thats the one I was looking at. Colour corrector... the website said it was green.
I've decided not to get it at the moment. Taken advice and decided to just get the foundations, see if they'll be all right and cover the spots and scars from previous spots that I'd normally use concealer on.

Ordered 5 different samples so hopefully I'll find one in there that would work for me. And have ordered one of their Kabuki Brushes. Am waiting excitedly now for them to be delivered. (Along with the hard back copy of "Twilight" that I ordered from Amazon shortly after... I'll be waiting on the doorstep for the postman at this rate!)
Thanks everyone for the advice. I'll let you know how I get on.

Amy :cool2:

ALR
27-07-2009, 12:55 PM
Hey all,
I just thought I'd come on here and give you a mini update on my first few days of using Mineral Foundation.
I must admit that I love it. I've only used it for 2 days so far (I would have started sooner but wanted to give myself some time to work out the best technique to putting it on before I showed my face in public). But right from the off I was able to apply it and it looked better than my old liquid foundation ever did. It really helped me having read this thread about how all of you had gotten on with your MMU and the various hints and tips you had given to its application etc.

I started off using EB healing foundation in Nude and it looked great, the colour suited my skin tone and it felt so light and even. It didn't cake onto my skin where liquid foundations do, even in areas where I've broken out in spots particularly badly.
I must admit I'm at the stage in the month where the breakouts are quite minor but even so because of the way that spots come up and scar and then take ages to fade, I always have had red blotches across my face quite a lot.... the MMU covered it nicely even with the one application. The red showed through a little in patches but it was greatly toned down.

This morning before work I tried it again (quickly as I'd overslept :eek:) using the sample of 'English Rose' which again worked very very well. I did two layers this time, the first all over (no need to close my eyes... I have rather strong prescripton glasses so taking them off worked well as I was able to see the outline of my face and facial features but fuzzily enough that I don't get tied up in where the powder has gone and not.) and then the second a lighter buff all over then with my glasses on again I went over the bits that needed a little more attention.
I think I prefered the Nude foundation to the English Rose that I tried today, purely because it acted against the redness in my skin where it was scarred. The English Rose has a slightly pinker tone to it, which although quite pretty, didn't quite fit with my skin tone and didn't fully cover the spots/scars.

Overall though I am soooo pleased that I've found MMU. It is a lot easier to apply than I had imagined it would be. I am going to look into getting a longer handled Kabuki. The brush I have (Deluxe Kabuki from EB) is great, soft, compact and picks up the powder well. However it doesn't quite feel right when using it. I'd prefer to have a handle to hold on to rather than just the base.

Also I think I am going to look at which moisturiser I am using. The one I have at the moment is ok. (just ok, nothing special, It has replaced the Neutrogina one that I had which has recently run out) It sometimes leaves my face feeling a little like rubber does when you run your finger along it. I've got another moisturiser from Simple which I've used a little of before. (it was only bought as a temporary thing when I went on a trip and forgot my usual one) But Next time I am in Manchester or London I'm going to see what Kiehl's have. A friend uses their one of their moisturisers and swears by it!

Anyway... I'm going to try the other powder shades out that I have over the next few days, experiment with techniques etc but I do think that the first one I tried (EB Healing foundation in Nude) is perfect.

Thanks to everyone for this thread as it's helped so much! I'll never go back to those icky liquid foundations now!! :T

Amy :D

veronarona
27-07-2009, 1:46 PM
Nude and English Rose are the 2 colours I've just ordered samples of. (I think the English Rose is wishful thinking on my part ;) )

I wonder if you've been confused by mentions of "close your eyes"... we meant to imply that MMU is so easy to apply you can do it with your eyes closed :) Of course, feel free to open them to see the effect and where to touch up or whether you need another layer.

I use a brush called Ultimate Buffer which I got from the US years ago - but they've gone out of business. However, yesterday in a discussion on MMU on Shopping Telly's forum I found that an Ultimate range is available - the Buffer looks similar to mine and is a similar price (but you may find something cheaper if you're very into money saving ;) ):

http://www.justbeautydirect.co.uk/product/ultimate_face_and_body_powder_brush_-_silver/

It's great to see another money-saver who's happy to find MMU!

veronarona

ALR
27-07-2009, 1:54 PM
Nude and English Rose are the 2 colours I've just ordered samples of. (I think the English Rose is wishful thinking on my part ;) )

I wonder if you've been confused by mentions of "close your eyes"... we meant to imply that MMU is so easy to apply you can do it with your eyes closed :) Of course, feel free to open them to see the effect and where to touch up or whether you need another layer.

I use a brush called Ultimate Buffer which I got from the US years ago - but they've gone out of business. However, yesterday in a discussion on MMU on Shopping Telly's forum I found that an Ultimate range is available - the Buffer looks similar to mine and is a similar price (but you may find something cheaper if you're very into money saving ;) ):

http://www.justbeautydirect.co.uk/product/ultimate_face_and_body_powder_brush_-_silver/

It's great to see another money-saver who's happy to find MMU!

veronarona


I did find it useful to not be able to see the coverage of the make-up until after I'd finished applying... I have a habit of sticking in one section until it looks just right and therefore over applying in that area... making it look like I've trowled it on compared to the rest of my face. Thats probably less of an issue with dry powder than the liquid I was using before... but you get the idea? :rotfl:

Nude looks good on my pale skin. It gives it a little glow whilst not looking fake. And as I say, it works better if you've got areas of red skin... e.g. spots etc as it's much more neutral where English Rose is slightly pink.
I've also got Sunshine, Luminous and Barley to try out. They were long shots but I thought they were worth a go.

Thanks again :D
Amy

ALR
27-07-2009, 1:57 PM
I use a brush called Ultimate Buffer which I got from the US years ago - but they've gone out of business. However, yesterday in a discussion on MMU on Shopping Telly's forum I found that an Ultimate range is available - the Buffer looks similar to mine and is a similar price (but you may find something cheaper if you're very into money saving ;) ):

http://www.justbeautydirect.co.uk/product/ultimate_face_and_body_powder_brush_-_silver/


I had a look at the link for the brushes and it looks perfect :D Thanks!!

jeannieblue
28-07-2009, 10:11 AM
Glad you are enjoying your MMU!

You can always tap in a little of one shade into the nude etc. EB saved my face ... ;) sorry for the pun!

If you find that you still have a red patch or spot showing through - try what I do, just put your little finger (or any finger really) into the MMU (careful, only a tiny bit) and pat it gently onto that area. Works for me!

EB got a new website??? Oh god, I'm going to have to have a look now, shouldn't really, I'm off work today - have some piggy type symptoms... and I don't get paid for being off ill.... so I shouldn't even think about buying anything... :o

veronarona
28-07-2009, 12:13 PM
Hi Jeannie :D Sorry you are fluey, get well soon!

I got my EB samples today, I ordered Nude and English Rose, each in the 2 different finishes. Got a bonus Barley, and I'm wondering if that's because they've sent me Luminous instead of Nude :huh: Was it an error or are they out of stock of Nude? (Rhetorical question.) The Luminous looks way too pale.

My face is very itchy today (been trying a Vit C serum for a few days, it stings!!!) so I'm going to find a washed brush and have a go later on. I should get an idea of texture even if the colours are wrong.

EB's website is very slow today - is that because it's swamped with MoneySavers?

(I'm still on the electronic fags, I must be on my 10th thousand pounds by now - I am the e-cig spending queen :p but no tobacco smoked for 9 months and 5 days.)

veronarona

ALR
28-07-2009, 2:29 PM
I got my EB samples today, I ordered Nude and English Rose, each in the 2 different finishes. Got a bonus Barley, and I'm wondering if that's because they've sent me Luminous instead of Nude :huh: Was it an error or are they out of stock of Nude? (Rhetorical question.) The Luminous looks way too pale.



Oh no, that isn't good that they have sent you the wrong one. Was there no message or note on the delivery note that they included with the samples? Maybe you can ask that they send you a sample of Nude once they have it back in stock.

Luminous is very pale, I am wearing it today but I dont like the colour. It doesn't cover right especially where there are red patches, and it makes me look washed out.
Still have Sunshine and Barley to try out, but I have a feeling they're going to be too dark. You never know though!
Nude is still the best one that I have used.

Think I am going to have to go back on my antibiotics for my spots again though. I've got a prescription from the docs about 2 months ago but they kept making me ill so I stopped using them. I was given another one but kept getting ill from those too, though I wasn't sure if that was the original ones combining with the new ones or if they were both having the same adverse effect. I think I'm clean of all of them now so might try the new ones again... I hate my skin sometimes! I will definately try using my little finger to apply the powder over red patches.... I used to apply concealer with my finger anyway so could work out quite well, thanks for the tip :D

I hope you get better soon Jeannie, is there a lot of Swine Flu going around where you live at the moment. I only know 1 person with it but know of people who know people with it. It's not too widespread here, but am dreading September. I work in a University and if Freshers flu is anything to go by, we'll all be in bed for a month at the beginning of the new academic year... staff and students inclusive!

Amy :cool:

veronarona
28-07-2009, 2:38 PM
Oh no, that isn't good that they have sent you the wrong one.

How embarrassing, I've checked my acknowledgment and that says Luminous :huh: Yet I'm certain I ordered Nude :huh: :huh: And I've written to them querying it too, oh how embarrassing!

Antibiotics are horrid but a necessary evil sometimes. You never know, the healing EB might do wonders for your skin - it's not just the allantoin which they bung in, zinc is healing too.

veronarona

ALR
28-07-2009, 2:43 PM
How embarrassing, I've checked my acknowledgment and that says Luminous :huh: Yet I'm certain I ordered Nude :huh: :huh: And I've written to them querying it too, oh how embarrassing!

Antibiotics are horrid but a necessary evil sometimes. You never know, the healing EB might do wonders for your skin - it's not just the allantoin which they bung in, zinc is healing too.

veronarona


Oops, I am sure it's just a slip. At least it's only a 77p sample and not a £10 pot!


I'm hoping the healing foundation will work well, I certainly don't feel as though it's doing any bad. I'll go with the antibiotics again (if I can find them from whichever box they got put in when I moved house) as I'm not quite ready to try Roaccutane that my friend is trying to convince me go to the docs and request.

Amy :)

veronarona
28-07-2009, 2:57 PM
I've had a response from Nicola already! She can see I made a mistake but she's going to pop a Nude sample in the post for me. How nice is that?! :T

I've told her it's all Jeannie's fault :p

veronarona

ALR
31-07-2009, 12:58 PM
Ah thats great that she's been able to send you some new samples. Sounds like she's very understanding.
I must admit I was quite impressed with the sample of Barley that I tried yesterday. It didn't look as yellow or as dark on my skin as I'd thought it would. Very even coverage from all samples though which is great. I am so pleased with EB.

I've still not tried the Sunshine sample yet... I do have a feeling that look to dark on my skin but I am still going to try it, though on a day when I have time to wash it off and start again if it isn't quite right. Probably will try it tomorrow.

My Only slight issue is that maybe about half an hour after I have put the foundation on the skin on my face feels a little itchy or stings a little (I dont know how best to describe the feeling) It's not unbareable and it doesn't last too long, it doesnt make my skin go red so I dont think it's a reaction to anything in it, but I was wondering if anyone else had had this sort of sensation when using it?

As I say it settles down and I dont feel it for the rest of the day so maybe it's just my skin reacting to the new product. I am going to look more closely at other Brushes too. The one I have is nice but the hair is quite coarse and stiff rather than being softer and silkier than some that I have seen. Maybe its that. I seem to remember reading somewhere on this thread about some one having a prickling sensation from the brush that they were using. Do you think it could be the same thing?

Overall it's not going to make me change the foundation that I am using, as its bearable and doesn't last more than a few mins at a time. It just would be nice not to have the irritation.

Anyways, let me know if you have any suggestions about what it might be.

I hope you're doing ok with your samples from EB Veronarona.
Oh and I think I have convinced a friend of mine to try EB MMU as well. She'd once used Avons version of it and wasn't impressed by it but she says that she woudlnt' mind trying one she has seen to be working, and now she has seen how it looks on my skin, she's looking into getting some samples :T

Anyway, off for lunch break now.Back in a bit.
Amy

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 1:11 PM
I've had a response from Nicola already! She can see I made a mistake but she's going to pop a Nude sample in the post for me. How nice is that?! :T

I've told her it's all Jeannie's fault :p

veronarona

Cheek - and me under the weather as well.... oink flaming oink.... :o

Nicola is brilliant - we should all bow down and worship her :D

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 1:19 PM
ALR - have you read about my great quest for allantoin? - healing properties found in EB's foundation. I also found a comfrey ointment which was very rich in allantoin. It is very greasy - so I only apply at night, I also found using Liz Earle light moisturiser just right for me for the day time under the MMU.

It is a bit hit and miss trying to find what suits ones skin. I can try and find the link if you want to try it. I took me several months - roughly - but my skin has never ever been as good as it is now - sadly its taken nearly all my life to find stuff that does! I think just purely using the EB healing foundation will help hugely. I found the comfrey calmed my skin down in the evening after taking off my make up.

That's another thing... I gave up on cleansers and cleansing methods as I found Johnsons baby wipes suited me better than anything I have tried!!

Its been well over a year now - and the thought of putting wet sludgy stuff on my skin makes me cringe....... :eek:

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 1:48 PM
ALR - this is the one...

http://www.discountvitaminsandherbs.com/search/5782.htm

Try and avoid the anti thingies if you can.... sorry, its the mother in me...

ALR
31-07-2009, 1:52 PM
ALR - have you read about my great quest for allantoin? - healing properties found in EB's foundation. I also found a comfrey ointment which was very rich in allantoin. It is very greasy - so I only apply at night, I also found using Liz Earle light moisturiser just right for me for the day time under the MMU.

It is a bit hit and miss trying to find what suits ones skin. I can try and find the link if you want to try it. I took me several months - roughly - but my skin has never ever been as good as it is now - sadly its taken nearly all my life to find stuff that does! I think just purely using the EB healing foundation will help hugely. I found the comfrey calmed my skin down in the evening after taking off my make up.

That's another thing... I gave up on cleansers and cleansing methods as I found Johnsons baby wipes suited me better than anything I have tried!!

Its been well over a year now - and the thought of putting wet sludgy stuff on my skin makes me cringe....... :eek:

I don't remember seeing the Allantoin quest no, but maybe I'm a forgetful sod.... :rotfl:
Was it part of this thread? It does seem to be having an effect, even with me only having used it for a week now I've had no real break outs, no feeling or look that my pores (which can be quite large in areas) are blocked or enflamed. I can see a big difference in the foundation.

I might look at the Liz Earle stuff for moisturiser... then I'm also tempted to get some more of the Neutrogina oil-free moisturiser as it did seem to work for me ok. I was going to go to Space NK next time I was near them and see if I could pick up some samples of moisturisers that might work for my skin. I know that they have some great premium brands, but I dont want to spend lots of money in there and get something that I find out just doesn't work. (Another reason why I chose EB over Sheer cover and the like)
I've used wipes before and they work as well as anything. (I've been using ones by Simple, but often find that they feel chemically on my skin afterwards) Never thought to try baby wipes... I might have to get some in town tomorrow!

My Shopping list is building up... I'm going in search of a suitable bowl to use for measuring/swirling my powders onto my brush in the mornings. I've been using the top off a cleanser spray bottle until now but it's too small and too angular really.
Also going to see if I can find any decent brushes in town.... its a long shot but would be nice to have a look and feel of them before I buy them so will see what is out there that I can see before I look on the net.

If you do have any links though Jeannie, I'd be greatful as I am always on the look out for tried and tested products, especially now ones that work well with MMU.

Thanks again :D

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 2:28 PM
I didn't really like the Kabuki brush much. I got one from EB that has a longer handle. I swirl in the lids of the foundation pots, dip a bit into one or two different shades depending on what mood I am in! If I want to look a bit tanned I add a bit of cinnamon. I'm probably a different shade each day!

I tried using a small bowl - but then I used too much powder and it all went on caked looking! I think I tend to fluff it on rather than buff - and when a brush is new, don't buff or fluff too hard as it can sort of scratch.

I don't know what brushes are on EB site - I know it has changed and I really can't afford to look ........... I end up spending!

Re the Johnsons wipes - I tried the really sensitive ones once and they were a bit chemical like, just go for the bog standard ones - sorry about the pun there... :D

MrsE
31-07-2009, 3:06 PM
I didn't really like the Kabuki brush much. I got one from EB that has a longer handle.

I don't like short handled brushes & I don't really like loose powders.

If they did more mineral stuff in pressed powders I would try it more.

ALR
31-07-2009, 3:22 PM
I didn't really like the Kabuki brush much. I got one from EB that has a longer handle. I swirl in the lids of the foundation pots, dip a bit into one or two different shades depending on what mood I am in! If I want to look a bit tanned I add a bit of cinnamon. I'm probably a different shade each day!

I tried using a small bowl - but then I used too much powder and it all went on caked looking! I think I tend to fluff it on rather than buff - and when a brush is new, don't buff or fluff too hard as it can sort of scratch.

I don't know what brushes are on EB site - I know it has changed and I really can't afford to look ........... I end up spending!

Re the Johnsons wipes - I tried the really sensitive ones once and they were a bit chemical like, just go for the bog standard ones - sorry about the pun there... :D

This is the one that I have from EB : http://www.elementalbeauty.co.uk/brushes-and-accessories/deluxe-kabuki-brush-1.html but the plain green one not the Pink one. Its Goat hair which I think is coarser than some you can get. Many places use 'Sable' (dont know if thats spelt right) hair which I think is softer, as is badger. Might have a look at synthetic hair brushes too just to see what sort of feel they can give. Poss not so great by what I have heard though I think it'd depend on how well the brush as a whole was made, not just the bristles. I definately want a longer handled one though.

Oh and Pun away about Baby wipes.. hehe.

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 3:45 PM
This is more similar to the brush I use for foundation

http://www.elementalbeauty.co.uk/brushes-and-accessories/blusher-brush.html

Though the one I have is not angled - may be worth having a chat with Nicola - they used to do alot more brushes than I could find on the website.

The kabuki looked lovely and soft - but I hate the stubby handle! But you may love it - its all about what we prefer as individuals.

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 3:50 PM
I don't like short handled brushes & I don't really like loose powders.

If they did more mineral stuff in pressed powders I would try it more.

I don't think of it as a powder - I'm not sure it would work if it was pressed?

I remember the first few times I tried it - it went everywhere! Until I learnt the hard lesson of less is more! You really only need the tiniest bit of sprinkles... :D Plus - I like my cinnamon one which gives me a nice tanned glow in the summer - I've been known to fluff on my shoulders and backs of legs to even out any tan! It was brilliant in Cyprus last year - toned down the redness I acquired after a day or two - burnt nose is not a look I aim for.. :o

ALR
31-07-2009, 3:55 PM
I remember the first few times I tried it - it went everywhere! Until I learnt the hard lesson of less is more!

burnt nose is not a look I aim for.. :o
Less is definately more, luckily from having read this thread throroughly before I tried it, my first time using it was great, I used a small amount and just added until I had enough to get an even coverage. It showed me how much (or should i say how little) I need to use.

Oh and the burnt nose look isn't good at all! I've managed to avoid it so far this summer luckily... but no doubt one random day of sun might catch me out somewhere this 'summer'... thats usually what happens to me!

This is more similar to the brush I use for foundation

http://www.elementalbeauty.co.uk/brushes-and-accessories/blusher-brush.html

Though the one I have is not angled - may be worth having a chat with Nicola - they used to do alot more brushes than I could find on the website.

The kabuki looked lovely and soft - but I hate the stubby handle! But you may love it - its all about what we prefer as individuals.

I might give Nicola a call, see what she would suggest as after all, she would know their foundation and any brushes inside out right?! Hehe.
It is mostly soft but the hairs are quite coarse and so are quite stiff, or at least too stiff for my liking. They may soften with use or with washing... I'll see.
But I do agree with you about the handle. I can use it but it doesn't necessarily feel right. Would rather find one thats a little longer.
I'll let you know what I do find.
Amy :cool:

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 4:05 PM
Amy,

When you do burn your nose (apparently we are due a heatwave - don't blink, you could miss it), try what I do - I just fluff a light shade on first and go off, have a pee or make a cup of tea, and then I apply a darker shade working side ways in and then fluff the darker over the lighter bit and it all seems to blend evenly, sort of.. :D

I'd never be employed as a make up artist.

My stomach hurts and I am fed up... I wonder if you can have a drink whilst on Tamiflu? A brandy would go down well... two even better... :D

ALR
31-07-2009, 4:16 PM
Amy,

When you do burn your nose (apparently we are due a heatwave - don't blink, you could miss it), try what I do - I just fluff a light shade on first and go off, have a pee or make a cup of tea, and then I apply a darker shade working side ways in and then fluff the darker over the lighter bit and it all seems to blend evenly, sort of.. :D

I'd never be employed as a make up artist.

My stomach hurts and I am fed up... I wonder if you can have a drink whilst on Tamiflu? A brandy would go down well... two even better... :D

Thats some sound advice Jeannie, thanks :D, I'll definately try it. I'm tempted to keep my old liquid foundation to cover if I burn my chest (below neck above bust... nothing dodgy)... that tends to be the other place that suffers. I'm so bad for getting sun burnt. A friends mum laughed at me last year because after a week away in strong sun on the south coast (nowhere exotic for my hols, lol) without getting even a hint of sunburn, I spent a week with them in Newcastle... and got burnt on a warm but mostly overcast day walking along the Tyne.

I don't know about drinking if your on Tamiflu, but if it is any consolation at all, I'm fed up too. Work is dead, I have blocked, ringing ears and am tired from lack of sleep (self induced mind you so perhaps no real sympathy is appropriate! lol)

I have just looked up Tamiflu and Alcohol.... there isn't anywhere that gives advice about it, it doesn't say not to though... if that helps? See: http://www.drugs.com/pro/tamiflu.html

Feel better soon Jeannie!! :grouphug:

Amy

P.s. Heading home from work now.... and my internet isn't connected at home at the moment... so might not be on here til Monday unless I can find an internet cafe or a friend willing to let me borrow their net over the weekend. So if I dont speak to you all... have a good weekend! Hope you relax lots. xxx

veronarona
31-07-2009, 7:55 PM
I might look at the Liz Earle stuff for moisturiser... then I'm also tempted to get some more of the Neutrogina oil-free moisturiser as it did seem to work for me ok. I was going to go to Space NK

There can't be anything more tried and tested than the Neutrogena which you know suits you, and the dreaded Paula Begoun (Cosmetics Cop) tends to review Neutrogena stuff as "does what it says on the tin", which is a lot nicer than she is about many more expensive brands - I wouldn't go anywhere near SpaceNK :eek: I also think that Liz Earle moisturisers are all rather oily, even the Light one. I'm trying her Cleanse & Polish for the first time and can feel oil in it so will probably revert to Gale Hayman's gel cleanser from Direct Cosmetics (one gets bored, misguidedly, because the 473ml bottle lasts such a long time ;) ).

I got the free Nude sample from Nicola @ EB today, she popped in a Barley just in case Nude was too light. How nice is that?! I used the Barley with a "contaminated" brush and it went on quite nicely, if a bit heavier than usual. I might buy another brush but need to rationalise my collection. I'm a long-handled kabuki fan too :)

veronarona

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 11:20 PM
There can't be anything more tried and tested than the Neutrogena which you know suits you, and the dreaded Paula Begoun (Cosmetics Cop) tends to review Neutrogena stuff as "does what it says on the tin", which is a lot nicer than she is about many more expensive brands - I wouldn't go anywhere near SpaceNK :eek: I also think that Liz Earle moisturisers are all rather oily, even the Light one. I'm trying her Cleanse & Polish for the first time and can feel oil in it so will probably revert to Gale Hayman's gel cleanser from Direct Cosmetics (one gets bored, misguidedly, because the 473ml bottle lasts such a long time ;) ).

I got the free Nude sample from Nicola @ EB today, she popped in a Barley just in case Nude was too light. How nice is that?! I used the Barley with a "contaminated" brush and it went on quite nicely, if a bit heavier than usual. I might buy another brush but need to rationalise my collection. I'm a long-handled kabuki fan too :)

veronarona
Where do you get your long handled ones from? Amy may want one.

jeannieblue
31-07-2009, 11:22 PM
Thats some sound advice Jeannie, thanks :D, I'll definately try it. I'm tempted to keep my old liquid foundation to cover if I burn my chest (below neck above bust... nothing dodgy)... that tends to be the other place that suffers. I'm so bad for getting sun burnt. A friends mum laughed at me last year because after a week away in strong sun on the south coast (nowhere exotic for my hols, lol) without getting even a hint of sunburn, I spent a week with them in Newcastle... and got burnt on a warm but mostly overcast day walking along the Tyne.

I don't know about drinking if your on Tamiflu, but if it is any consolation at all, I'm fed up too. Work is dead, I have blocked, ringing ears and am tired from lack of sleep (self induced mind you so perhaps no real sympathy is appropriate! lol)

I have just looked up Tamiflu and Alcohol.... there isn't anywhere that gives advice about it, it doesn't say not to though... if that helps? See: http://www.drugs.com/pro/tamiflu.html

Feel better soon Jeannie!! :grouphug:

Amy

P.s. Heading home from work now.... and my internet isn't connected at home at the moment... so might not be on here til Monday unless I can find an internet cafe or a friend willing to let me borrow their net over the weekend. So if I dont speak to you all... have a good weekend! Hope you relax lots. xxx
Have a good weekend Amy!

veronarona
31-07-2009, 11:32 PM
Where do you get your long handled ones from? Amy may want one.

To quote myself from a couple of days ago:

I use a brush called Ultimate Buffer which I got from the US years ago - but they've gone out of business. However, yesterday in a discussion on MMU on Shopping Telly's forum I found that an Ultimate range is available - the Buffer looks similar to mine and is a similar price (but you may find something cheaper if you're very into money saving ;) ):

http://www.justbeautydirect.co.uk/product/ultimate_face_and_body_powder_brush_-_silver/

It has very good feedback.

veronarona :)

MrsE
31-07-2009, 11:37 PM
I wouldn't go anywhere near SpaceNK :eek: I also think that Liz Earle moisturisers are all rather oily, even the Light one.

I love SpaceNK:confused:

& Liz Earle light:confused:

ALR
03-08-2009, 10:54 AM
There can't be anything more tried and tested than the Neutrogena which you know suits you, and the dreaded Paula Begoun (Cosmetics Cop) tends to review Neutrogena stuff as "does what it says on the tin", which is a lot nicer than she is about many more expensive brands - I wouldn't go anywhere near SpaceNK :eek: I also think that Liz Earle moisturisers are all rather oily, even the Light one. I'm trying her Cleanse & Polish for the first time and can feel oil in it so will probably revert to Gale Hayman's gel cleanser from Direct Cosmetics (one gets bored, misguidedly, because the 473ml bottle lasts such a long time ;) ).

I got the free Nude sample from Nicola @ EB today, she popped in a Barley just in case Nude was too light. How nice is that?! I used the Barley with a "contaminated" brush and it went on quite nicely, if a bit heavier than usual. I might buy another brush but need to rationalise my collection. I'm a long-handled kabuki fan too :)

veronarona

I perhaps should get Neutrogena again... as I have said before it works... I just wondered if there was anything that was anymore beneficial to my skin that that was.... but then as the saying goes... 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it?!' Anyway, I've got another one to try... I was in Lush at the weekend looking for shampoo with seaweed in it and ended up getting some of their moisturiser.... Vanishing Cream... Has anyone tried it? It felt nice when I tried a little in the store, and I liked how they described it as Low-Fat and minimal Oil.... and its got Witch Hazel in it which obviously is good for oily, spot prone skin. I've tried it for the past couple of days and I must admit, I'm not sure... It feels quite heavy and bizarrely quite oily, I can feel it on my skin even now nearly 4 hours after applying it.

I'll give it another couple of days, try to adapt how I am applying it but I still am not sure it's going to be right for me. I wonder if they do refunds if you're not satisfied with their products... because it was quite expensive... another case of me being gullible and getting taken in by the advertising again!

Why don't you like SpaceNK Veronarona? I must admit, I've never bought anything from there myself but I have used some products that my friend has gotten from there... and he's given me some of the samples that they gave him. The staff there seem very knowledgeable.


Nicola does sound very helpful indeed. :) Thats great that she's given you another sample to try out. I've been using Sunshine this weekend... I had said before I thought it would be too dark but looking at it now... it's not as bad as I thought. It gives me a nice glow so maybe my skin isn't as pale as I keep thinking it is. Its nice to have such a wide selection of shades to choose from... I've always had to go for the lightest in other foundations I have tried because the choice is so limited (I was told by No7 to look somewhere else last time I was there, the rep said my skin was too pale for their foundations.... how rude I thought... my response should have been "Surely your foundation is too dark for my skin!?")

I couldn't find any long handled Kabuki's in town this weekend so I am going to head online to the link you'd given me earlier and have a look on there. Thanks :D


Have a good weekend Amy!

I had a good weekend.... it's always a good weekend when shopping straight after payday :D. I hope you had a good one (or at least a decent one and felt a little better?)

I love SpaceNK:confused:

& Liz Earle light:confused:

I like SpaceNK too, I've never bought any of their stuff but have had samples passed to me by a friend. Their products are massively expensive though so I would only go in there if I wanted a specific thing and knew that it would work... I'd go looking for samples first I think!!

Amy :cool:

veronarona
03-08-2009, 1:13 PM
Why don't you like SpaceNK Veronarona? ...........
...................... Their products are massively expensive though

You answered your own question, Amy ;) There's nothing wrong with them otherwise, but it's so unlikely that a very expensive product will be significantly better for your skin than your Neutrogena.

I also do like Liz Earle Light - but it's got quite a bit of oil in it so I wouldn't recommend it for very oily skins.

veronarona :)

MrsE
03-08-2009, 1:47 PM
I like SpaceNK too, I've never bought any of their stuff but have had samples passed to me by a friend. Their products are massively expensive though so I would only go in there if I wanted a specific thing and knew that it would work... I'd go looking for samples first I think!!

Amy :cool:

They are the best place to get Shu Umera eyelash curlers & Laura Mercier loose powder;)

ALR
03-08-2009, 2:20 PM
You answered your own question, Amy ;) There's nothing wrong with them otherwise, but it's so unlikely that a very expensive product will be significantly better for your skin than your Neutrogena.


Oops yea, I guess I did really didn't I?!
I'm so not with it today....! I've already confused a guy in Subway, blanked a security guard at work who I usually stand and have long conversations with, and called 3 of my colleagues by completely the wrong name.

Amy :confused:

veronarona
03-08-2009, 2:24 PM
Sounds like I just found a soulmate ;) :rolleyes:

veronarona

jeannieblue
03-08-2009, 2:36 PM
Sounds like I just found a soulmate ;) :rolleyes:

veronarona
Could be me too! Although I am not back at work yet... I've just posted on Benefits forum. I wonder if I can claim sickness benefit or something - having lost a weeks pay already - can't afford to lose any more money! I've never claimed before so am a complete dunce about it!

Amy, a gnat bit me right on the end of my nose in my sleep! The MMU has covered the redness beautifully!

ALR
03-08-2009, 2:53 PM
Sounds like I just found a soulmate ;) :rolleyes:

veronarona
:D

Could be me too!
:D


Amy, a gnat bit me right on the end of my nose in my sleep! The MMU has covered the redness beautifully!

Oh no! Thats not nice being bitten... I can guess anyway :undecided That is often one thing I don't have to worry about. Insects don't bite me... guess my blood is obviously not that nice... I think I am safe from Vampires then :D

Great that MMU has covered it up though. I am managing to wipe all my make-up off today... not good but I don't think my new moisturiser is really doing any good. Applying it has effectively made me start the day with Oily skin :mad: Seriously am considering seeing whether Lush will do refunds if your not satisfied with a product... my guess is not, but makes me wonder how they can advertise something as 'Low-fat' and 'low-oil'. I guess the key word is LOW, if it has said NO-Oil or Oil Free it would be better.

Amy:confused:

veronarona
03-08-2009, 5:52 PM
makes me wonder how they can advertise something as 'Low-fat' and 'low-oil'. I guess the key word is LOW, if it has said NO-Oil or Oil Free it would be better.

Teeeeeeeee-hee, you done it again, Amy, so I just can't resist having a dig :p:D:T

veronarona

MrsE
03-08-2009, 7:01 PM
Could be me too! Although I am not back at work yet... I've just posted on Benefits forum. I wonder if I can claim sickness benefit or something - having lost a weeks pay already - can't afford to lose any more money! I've never claimed before so am a complete dunce about it!

Amy, a gnat bit me right on the end of my nose in my sleep! The MMU has covered the redness beautifully!

Do you not get sick pay Jeannie:(:(:(

Thats a bummer if you don't:mad::mad::mad:

What you got? Swine flu? Told you pork isn't kosher:p

veronarona
03-08-2009, 8:02 PM
a gnat bit me right on the end of my nose in my sleep!

I get those when there are no gnats in town, it's one of my versions of breakouts; they don't half itch and they're tender, and I get them on the side of my nose near my eyes too :( I'm always on the lookout for miracle spot-zappers, I have Australian Bodycare Tea Tree roll-on but it's not strong enough yet if it were any stronger I wouldn't dare put it near my eyes :(

Did you get a doc's certificate? In your situation it's not feasible to stay away from the surgery, you need your piece of paper to take to the DSS (or whatever it's called these days). Hope you're better soon!

Sorry to stray so far off topic.

veronarona

jeannieblue
03-08-2009, 8:49 PM
No, don't get sick pay....... :o

I've had some help from Benefits board and have downloaded self certifying note thingy and have called doc's - who told me to stay away! - and they will make a cert out for me..... Yes, MrsE - it is the piggy thing... :o

Meanwhile................. MMU is brill........ :rotfl:

ALR
04-08-2009, 10:08 AM
Teeeeeeeee-hee, you done it again, Amy, so I just can't resist having a dig :p:D:T

veronarona

Aghh I did didn't I?! Will I never learn?! :mad:

I found another tube of moisturiser today (this comes as a result of having packed up and moved house nearly 3 weeks ago and then not unpacking properly...) it's an 'oil free' one from Simple. So far its working out ok, though I think I used too much... I was running late for work having decided it was a good idea to watch the news whilst I was getting ready. I get distracted if the TV is on in the morning.
Besides... when I got to work everyone was stood around outside at the fire assembly point having been evacuated because there was a supposed Gas Leak somewhere in the building.
Needless to say we didn't make it in here til ten to ten and no1 was really bothered that I was 5 mins late to start with :D

I'm wearing EB Sunshine again today. I am quite liking it.
Shame there's no sunshine outside....
Amy :cool:

ckeogh
04-08-2009, 1:59 PM
Just to let you all know...

Avon have now launched their own mineral make up powders and kabuki brushes in the UK.


They have really cheap introductory offers.... 10g jars are about £7 and brushes are £3.


I'm not really an Avon fan, but my bf's sister is a representative, so whilst looking through her catalogue I came across the '100% naturally derived minerals'.

I have my kit from Southern Magnolia, so don't need any at the moment. But I've ordered their kabuki brush to try. You can't go wrong for £3.


Worth a try!

ALR
04-08-2009, 4:29 PM
Just to let you all know...

Avon have now launched their own mineral make up powders and kabuki brushes in the UK.


They have really cheap introductory offers.... 10g jars are about £7 and brushes are £3.


I'm not really an Avon fan, but my bf's sister is a representative, so whilst looking through her catalogue I came across the '100% naturally derived minerals'.

I have my kit from Southern Magnolia, so don't need any at the moment. But I've ordered their kabuki brush to try. You can't go wrong for £3.


Worth a try!

I'd seen the Avon Mineral Make-up. There would be only one problem for me, that I have found since I was younger. I used to use other Make-up from Avon and always found that there wasn't a shade of foundation or concealer etc that suited my skin tone. It was always too dark and often made me look orange. :eek:

EB all the way for me now!! :D
Am so impressed with the range of tones they have and I've found so many that actually suit me so I'm a bit like a kid in a candy shop trying to decide which to get! hehe.

Amy

veronarona
04-08-2009, 5:16 PM
Avon have now launched their own mineral make up powders and kabuki brushes in the UK... Worth a try!


They've been doing it for quite a while but didn't get terribly good reviews for texture - if I remember rightly!

I can't find ingredients, but "made with 100% pure mineral pigments" could simply mean that whatever mineral pigments are included in the powder are 100% pure, not necessarily that the powder is made 100% from mineral pigments, if you see what I mean.

The kabuki must be a great buy for money-saving trialists, anyway :T

veronarona

PS: I don't know if there's something wrong with my lappy, but for a few days when I type my posts they've been overlapping the smilies at the side and I can't see what I'm typing :huh:

suki1964
04-08-2009, 5:38 PM
They've been doing it for quite a while but didn't get terribly good reviews for texture - if I remember rightly!

I can't find ingredients, but "made with 100% pure mineral pigments" could simply mean that whatever mineral pigments are included in the powder are 100% pure, not necessarily that the powder is made 100% from mineral pigments, if you see what I mean.

The kabuki must be a great buy for money-saving trialists, anyway :T

veronarona


PS: I don't know if there's something wrong with my lappy, but for a few days when I type my posts they've been overlapping the smilies at the side and I can't see what I'm typing :huh:

I think Avons came very Talc laden - which in itself is a mineral but not suited for mature skins

My SD had a freebie mineral from Avon and loved it (shes 22 and gorgeous of course) BUT saying that it didnt seem to last five minutes so I think she was applying it as we would an old fashioned loose powder

veronarona
04-08-2009, 6:06 PM
PS: I don't know if there's something wrong with my lappy, but for a few days when I type my posts they've been overlapping the smilies at the side and I can't see what I'm typing :huh:

There's me, picking holes in Avon's comms when I'm no better myself - I should have said that my typing was underlapping the smilies :D

No-one else having probs then?

veronarona

jeannieblue
04-08-2009, 10:08 PM
There's me, picking holes in Avon's comms when I'm no better myself - I should have said that my typing was underlapping the smilies :D

No-one else having probs then?

veronarona

I'm not over or under lapping........ :D